Mongol Vs Manchu

[Trien Chieu]

Which side is better?
The mongol conquered much larger land but only last for short period of time whereas the manchu conquered much smaller land but last much longer. However, the mongolians still have their own country called Mongolia whereas the Manchu lost their own territory and no longer have their own country.

Any thought?

[Guo Xiang]

I have the idea that the Mongolians were stronger, and had a much more mobile army.

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the mongolians still have their own country called Mongolia whereas the Manchu lost their own territory and no longer have their own country.

had it not been for the russians butting in, mongolia wouldve still been part of China now just like manchuria.

[douggilmour]

History is your friend, don't fight it. I usually don't post but love a history topic.

The mongol did not "only last a short period", as you say, but broke up into many empires and khanates which lasted for hundreds of years. Some, for example, like the Mughal empire who ruled Pakistan/India well into the 19th century. Babur the first Mughal Emperor, was a descendent of Genghis Khan.

[Ren Ying Ying]

a full blasted war between the two? The "technical Mongolian Empire" might have more soldiers, though the Manchu would probably have more modernized weapons?

[Guo Xiang]

a full blasted war between the two? The "technical Mongolian Empire" might have more soldiers, though the Manchu would probably have more modernized weapons?

That's not fair. They didn't exist in the same time period!

[Ren Ying Ying]

That's not fair. They didn't exist in the same time period!

all is FAIR in love & war

[rosely]

all is FAIR in love & war

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[Banh Mi]

What's your exact definition of better though?

Personally, I like the Mongolians more, not only did they have a direct massive impact on the world, rising from obscurity to conquer half the world with horses and arrows. They also have more descendants.

So in an evolutionary sense, they won too.