Jin Yong Level Ranking By Novel (DGSD)

[PJ]

This is how I would rank them at this snapshot in time. I welcome your critique.

20% of Sweeper Monk means he is 20% of Sweeper Monk's overall power

Sweeper Monk 100%
Xuzhu 60%
Tianshan Tonglao 50%
Li Qiushui 45%
Wuyazi 45%
Xiao Feng 30%
GREAT WHEEL MONK Jiumozhi 29%
Xiao Yuanshan 28%
Murong Bo 28%
(Reverend Xuancheng/Xuandeng) 15%
Elder Kurong 12%
Reverend Shenshan 10%
Abbot Xuanci 10%
You Tanzhi 10%
Duan Yanqing 9%
Duan Zhengming 9%
Reverend Xuannan, Xuanji, Xuandu and their fellow monks 9%
Abbot Benyin and his fellow monks 9%
Ding Chunqiu 8%
Yellow Eyebrowed Monk 8%
Su Xinghe 7%
Murong Fu 7%
Granny Yu 7%
SWORD GOD Zhuo Bufan 6%
Taoist Buping 5%
LOTUS FAIRY Cui Luhua 5%
Duan Zhengchun 5%
Grandfather Tan 5%
Zhao Qiansun 5%
Gao Shengtai 4.5%
Granny Tan 4%
Big Boss Wu 4%
(Taoist Priest 9 Wings) 4%
Evil #2 - Ye Erniang 4%
Evil #3 - Divine Croc 3.8%
Elder Xu Chongxiao 3.8%
Bai Shijing 3.6%
Elder Xiang (Merit Transmission Elder) 3.6%
Evil #4 - Yun Zhonghe 3.5%
Deng Baichuan 3.3%
Gongye Gan 3.2%
Quan Guanqing 3%
Elder Chen/Xi/Song/Wu 3%
HE WHO KILLS OTHERS AT SIGHT Zhong Wanchou 3%
IMPARTIAL JUDGE Shan Zheng 3%
Bao Butong 2.8%
Feng Bo'e 2.7%
You Tanzhi's father & uncle 2.6%
Zuo Zimu 1%
ASHURA SABRE Qin Hongmian 1%

[Wuxia_FTW]

sweeper monks are so overrated.

[person135]

1. where's duan yu?
2. sweeper monk = overrated.
3. why are XY elders > XYS, MRB, and !!!QF!!! What proof do you guys actually have of the XY elders being that great? They only fight amongst themselves. Sure some of their martial arts looks powerful, but that's used by a guy with 3x their power. XZ can make anything look powerful.
4. sweeper monk = overrated.
5. based on your rankings, DCQ + YTZ + MRF < QF.
6. sweeper monk = overrated.

[Dennis Chen]

It's a joke thread.

[person135]

wasn't DCQ>DYQ?

[PJ]

wasn't DCQ>DYQ?

As I mentioned in another thread:

Ding Chunqiu did NOT beat or even fight Duan Yanqing in the novel. That only happened in the Mainland TV adaption DGSD.

[PJ]

1. where's duan yu?

He's unrated due to inability to perform consistently (Jin Yong says so).

3. why are XY elders > XYS, MRB, and !!!QF!!! What proof do you guys actually have of the XY elders being that great? They only fight amongst themselves. Sure some of their martial arts looks powerful, but that's used by a guy with 3x their power. XZ can make anything look powerful.

Reading the novel would help

4. sweeper monk = overrated.

You do know that he "killed' Murong Bo and Xiao Yuanshan each in ONE stance, right?

DCQ + YTZ + MRF < QF.

Nope. I ranked individuals, I did not rank groups and/or formations. You cannot apply individual ranking to groups and/or formations.

[flamer]

I feel SM is more than 3 times stronger than Elites. After all, HYS can't even hit QCJ in one stance.

[shortsight]

It's a joke thread.

I agree, but probably for a different reason. I rate Sweeper much higher(maybe 200! using this chart). The rest are just ants to him.

The reason because I believe sweeper would have annihilated Jiumozhi, Murong Bo, Xiao Yuanshan, Xiao Feng, Murong Fu in about 10 stances if he wanted to.

[flamer]

The reason because I believe sweeper would have annihilated Jiumozhi, Murong Bo, Xiao Yuanshan, Xiao Feng, Murong Fu in about 10 stances if he wanted to.

5 stances at most if he's not in his best shape. On a good day, he takes 1 stance with each of the Elites and MRF gets taken out by residual palm wind.

[CC]

Again and again. You guys who keep thinking Sweeper is overrated really need to go read the novel and see how crazy he is.


As for You Tanzhi, he is an oddball case like Duan Yu and 'pre-JMZ fight' Xu Zhu. Hard to rate him. I suspect Duan Yanqing could take him down with some feints just like XF did.

[pannonian]

Again and again. You guys who keep thinking Sweeper is overrated really need to go read the novel and see how crazy he is.

We're hoping for a translation...

[yittz]

I really like this ranking. Especially the bonuses of ELOC characters. Again I agree, Sweeper is out of the world, we can have more distinction if we start with XF as 100%.

Best use of MRF in a 5vSweeper fight is being used as a projectile or a shield.

[person135]

I know what sweeper monk did. But I still think he's overrated.

[shortsight]

I know what sweeper monk did. But I still think he's overrated.

Then how much do you think sweeper should be rated to be able to perform what he did?

[person135]

1.5-1.7 of XF at most.

[timeless]

Any personal ranking in terms of internal power should not just be based on that that Shaolin incident without adopting a more objectified bio-chronological perspective.

In my opinion, during that episode involving the N-S Elders, Sweeper monk was clearly more superior in internal power than anyone else, including Xf and the over-exerted non-sustainable N-S Elderlies. Now, even though Xf was surprised to finally meet someone with 'such high internal power', that is still in some manner quite debatable as to whether it actually indicated that Xf really meant that he had never met someone with as high in internal than even himself as a observationary note of caution or means that Xf had finally met someone whom he read has internal that could well rivalled or surpassed his own, to be completely objective without being affected by the tv storylines.

Even if we ignore this more acceptable 'fact' that Sm's internal power was much higher than anyone else, which is quite evidently so unless we read more into what Xf actually felt about Sm's internal power.

To me, in my opinion, i think that Sm at that point in time was clearly no.1 in internal power, whether naturally or by sheer exertion as compared to Xf who while he may be somewhat inferior naturally by a fraction of around 30% lower than Sm's 100%- say around 70% of Sm's level without exertionary mustering of power using Xl28z to meet to and overcome Sm's level in combat.

That being at that point, we have to note the age of the characters, Xf was arguably no.2 in internal power during that Shaolin episode. He was far younger than Sm who spend ages learning the high end internal and external Shaolin skills. And even before that, it was ever mentioned that Xf 's internal power grew at a sizeable natural rate over a short period of time.

So taking age into consideration and by the story's end, i would say that Sm, Xf, Dy and Xz's internal power are more or less on par. Internal power aside, when it comes to martial excellence, its clear who is top man.

[flamer]

timeless you cannot tell me that someone is able to block someone 70% of himself just by closing his palms. SM had clear superiority of internal energy. Yes even far surpasses XZ's demonstration on JMZ.

[tape]

stuff

Is english your first language? You use a lot of uncommon (redundant) words and pretty uh unorthodox grammar.

[person135]

and convoluted sentences. some of your convoluted sentences aren't complete. o_o just pointing that out

i believe more in the fact that sm is really good with the north star shifting skill and was able to redirect and negate attacks.

maybe he just knocked XYS and MRB unconscious and made them seem dead (like maybe temporarily disrupt some meridians or something (u never know)).