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    It was in sequential order really. He gave up when all three of them arrived at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoReverse View Post
    It was in sequential order really. He gave up when all three of them arrived at the same time.
    Not exactly. I have not read the novel, but I did see the 2006 TV adaptation. At one point during the fight, it seemed like JLFW took on YD and ZBT both at the same time and seemed to hold his own against both of them. When HYS joined in, it was then that he gave up realizing that there in no way in hell he could ever take on 3 greats all at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodrick View Post
    Not exactly. I have not read the novel, but I did see the 2006 TV adaptation. At one point during the fight, it seemed like JLFW took on YD and ZBT both at the same time and seemed to hold his own against both of them. When HYS joined in, it was then that he gave up realizing that there in no way in hell he could ever take on 3 greats all at the same time.
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    ARTS time

    JY Characters who could single-handedly took on more than one Greats at a time.
    Only a handful of genii can take on multiple Greats, using both hands. Using just one hand to handle multiple Greats, that number is reduced to maybe 2 people at most.
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    So what if 1000 arrows are targetted at our wuxia hero? LHC's missile breaking stance can deflect thousands of projectiles in 1 stance and send them back to the enemy. The more arrows the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Only a handful of genii can take on multiple Greats, using both hands. Using just one hand to handle multiple Greats, that number is reduced to maybe 2 people at most.
    I'm not sure even Sweeper Monk can take on two greats at a time with just one hand. All of his maneuvers made good use of his hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChanceEncounter View Post
    I'm not sure even Sweeper Monk can take on two greats at a time with just one hand. All of his maneuvers made good use of his hands.
    Maybe Sweeper Monk can't, but maybe Dugu Qiubai can.

    // sits back and waits for war to erupt.
    Quote Originally Posted by CC
    So what if 1000 arrows are targetted at our wuxia hero? LHC's missile breaking stance can deflect thousands of projectiles in 1 stance and send them back to the enemy. The more arrows the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    // sits back and waits for war to erupt.
    Would you be disappointed if it didn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Would you be disappointed if it didn't?
    Seeing how we're low on traffic these days...
    Quote Originally Posted by CC
    So what if 1000 arrows are targetted at our wuxia hero? LHC's missile breaking stance can deflect thousands of projectiles in 1 stance and send them back to the enemy. The more arrows the better!

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    What about OuYangFeng? I don't think anyone has mentioned him yet.
    At the end of LOCH, he was as powerful as Huang YaoShi and Hong7Gong combined. Although he did not take on both of them at the same time, Huang YaoShi was required to use his knowledge to combine with 7Gong's fighting skills.

    Although mabye OYF doesn't count; he used his mouth AND his hands
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangRong View Post
    At the end of LOCH, he was as powerful as Huang YaoShi and Hong7Gong combined.
    Only in LOCH '82. In the novel, he was still more-or-less equal to each of them, but they had a hard time with him because his "insane" martial arts were so unpredictable (Hung 7 Gung had started to figure it out during his fight with Au Yeung Fung, however). If Hung 7 Gung and Wong Yerk See had ganged up on Au Yeung Fung, they would have wasted him, but they were too honorable/proud to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Only in LOCH '82. In the novel, he was still more-or-less equal to each of them, but they had a hard time with him because his "insane" martial arts were so unpredictable (Hung 7 Gung had started to figure it out during his fight with Au Yeung Fung, however). If Hung 7 Gung and Wong Yerk See had ganged up on Au Yeung Fung, they would have wasted him, but they were too honorable/proud to do that.
    This is true, though I don't think Ouyang Feng gets the credit he deserves. In my mind he is officially the best fighter in LOCH, and it is not a 4 way tie as we always like to think of it.

    Hiding martial arts and saving it for the tournament is a perfectly legitimate strategy, as Hong Qigong himself wanted to do that with his Dog Beating Stick, and Ouyang Feng would have won in a duel/fight against either HYS or HQG. I agree they would have eventually figured him out, but the only reason they lasted as long as they did was because they were teaming up in a sense. Unpredictability plays a large part in these tournament settings, and being on the same general level with the advantage of unpredictability leads to titles just as in many sports.

    And during the fight, they were shouting tips to each other, and fought him one after another with no real rest. It was not a fair competition and they still realistically only managed a draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Only in LOCH '82. In the novel, he was still more-or-less equal to each of them, but they had a hard time with him because his "insane" martial arts were so unpredictable (Hung 7 Gung had started to figure it out during his fight with Au Yeung Fung, however). If Hung 7 Gung and Wong Yerk See had ganged up on Au Yeung Fung, they would have wasted him, but they were too honorable/proud to do that.
    In LOCH 94 it was even more dramatic. OYF was beating the other THREE greats who were ganging up on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Liew View Post
    In LOCH 94 it was even more dramatic. OYF was beating the other THREE greats who were ganging up on him.
    I kindda liked that one

    It kind of bums me out that the legendary 9 Yin that was hyped up throughout the novel doesn't really push one much past the Great level...and it takes decade(s) too. As cheesy as TVB wuxia series are, I do get hyped up when someone finally gets the legendary manual and is ready to go super saiyan mode .

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    Does Jinlun Fawang count since he took on Zhu Batong and Yi Deng and Guo Jing and Yang Guo couple of times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Liew View Post
    In LOCH 94 it was even more dramatic. OYF was beating the other THREE greats who were ganging up on him.
    I heard this series also had WCY defeat the 4 combined young Greats with ease.
    Quote Originally Posted by CC
    So what if 1000 arrows are targetted at our wuxia hero? LHC's missile breaking stance can deflect thousands of projectiles in 1 stance and send them back to the enemy. The more arrows the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    I heard this series also had WCY defeat the 4 combined young Greats with ease.
    I don't know if LOCH '94 did that, but LOCH '82 definitely did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    I don't know if LOCH '94 did that, but LOCH '82 definitely did.
    They kept the 7 days 7 nights narrative so it wasn't really with ease (speaking of '94), but the fight scene did have all four rushing Wang Chongyang and all getting knocked down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    They kept the 7 days 7 nights narrative so it wasn't really with ease (speaking of '94), but the fight scene did have all four rushing Wang Chongyang and all getting knocked down.
    That's what was depicted in LOCH '82 as well, but there was no mention of how long they had been fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    That's what was depicted in LOCH '82 as well, but there was no mention of how long they had been fighting.
    That scene in '94 is probably what set the blueprints for me thinking WCY is only slightly better than the 4 Greats. They had a nice flashes of light changing along with the narrative and it gave it a real epic feel of them fighting nonstop while the sun went up and down, leaving me to conclude that he definitely only edged out the win rather than a severe stompage.

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