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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    Sadistic is having pleasure in inflicting pain on others.

    She feels great for winning, not, torturing someone.

    Example of a sadistic act is Ah Zi torturing You Tan Zhi. Now, that's a sadist.
    Exactly. If Guo Fu was a sadist, she wouldn't be wrecked over Yang Guo's arm, no matter the reasons. She would have stayed on to enjoy the pain Yang Guo was suffering and perhaps add on another slice or two just to watch him wince more. Which obviously she did not do and would never do.
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    OK, it's not sadism, more like a combination of evil + heartless + dishonorable + cruel.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    Exactly. If Guo Fu was a sadist, she wouldn't be wrecked over Yang Guo's arm, no matter the reasons. She would have stayed on to enjoy the pain Yang Guo was suffering and perhaps add on another slice or two just to watch him wince more. Which obviously she did not do and would never do.
    Not all sadists are one dimensional.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Not all sadists are one dimensional.
    Yes, but the point is, she never did enjoy inflicting pain on its own "merit", which immediately disqualifies her from sadism.

    Dishonourable and cruel, yes... I find her action with the Shi brother very disagreeable.
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    OK, just want to confirm with you guys about a case -- if someone gets pissed off easily (the reason being he/she is losing an argument), and then has the ardent desire to violently damage/hurt the other person, and would get satisfaction out of BOTH the winning AND the other person suffering -- is that sadism or not? It's more like a combination of vengeful + spoiled + evil?

    I know someone like that in real life and just want to know if he/she should be classified as sadist or not.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    Yes, but the point is, she never did enjoy inflicting pain on its own "merit", which immediately disqualifies her from sadism.

    Dishonourable and cruel, yes... I find her action with the Shi brother very disagreeable.
    I'm just making a general comment now (that characters are often more complex than stereotypical one dimensional throwaway characters); has nothing to do with Guo Fu specifically.

    Not all sadists must be extreme like that.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    I realised you have 'selective reading'; since if you think i aint worth the trouble, the same could be said in response.

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang bao View Post
    Of course it was a change of topic. What you brought up has nothing to do with this thread. I donít know what you are thinking, but I am not going around just looking to contrast your opinion with TCís. You are not that important. I am at work and I just go to certain threads and read certain posts. If you want to point something in your favor out, then do it yourself.

    As for the passages in the book, itís so easy to find you just have to go to ROCHís final two chapters, and see that GF was on the trip to Huanshan with GX. And go to the first two chapters of HSDS to see the GF references. With electronic versions, you just have to search for GFís name within the text. It really literally only takes a few minutes, and even shorter if you know ROCH and HSDS well. So is that really your counter-argument for GF having changed? That I didnít post the passages from the book?? LOL.

    And of course you are wrong on this issue. You may not think you are wrong, but you are. Clearly. You have not even managed to present any evidence that she had changed at all. Just read back on your last few posts. Itís basically about me not combing over threads to contrast you and TCís viewpoints and getting annoyed about how I am trying to prove that I am ďsuperior,Ē which I am not trying to do. I am simply asking you guys to shore up your position with some evidence from the book.

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    Another instance of Sadist Or No Sadist:

    If someone derives satisfaction from dreaming about enjoying another's suffering (because he/she believes the other deserves), BUT if it ever happened in reality, he/she wouldn't enjoy it, is that a sadist or not? If not, what is he/she? A 'substanceless' sadist?
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    OK, just want to confirm with you guys about a case -- if someone gets pissed off easily (the reason being he/she is losing an argument), and then has the ardent desire to violently damage/hurt the other person, and would get satisfaction out of BOTH the winning AND the other person suffering -- is that sadism or not? It's more like a combination of vengeful + spoiled + evil?

    I know someone like that in real life and just want to know if he/she should be classified as sadist or not.
    i would say, the person has the greater issue of 'bad temper' than 'sadism'. it was out of anger did the person have violent tendencies. if a person is not infuriated and merely enjoying himself on torturing people just for the fun of it, then yea, thats a sadist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    OK, just want to confirm with you guys about a case -- if someone gets pissed off easily (the reason being he/she is losing an argument), and then has the ardent desire to violently damage/hurt the other person, and would get satisfaction out of BOTH the winning AND the other person suffering -- is that sadism or not? It's more like a combination of vengeful + spoiled + evil?

    I know someone like that in real life and just want to know if he/she should be classified as sadist or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Another instance of Sadist Or No Sadist:

    If someone derives satisfaction from dreaming about enjoying another's suffering (because he/she believes the other deserves), BUT if it ever happened in reality, he/she wouldn't enjoy it, is that a sadist or not? If not, what is he/she? A 'substanceless' sadist?
    Personally I don't consider those sadist. Besides, fantasizing does have a difference from reality (though dark fantasizing can be a turn off). Harmful fantasies only become an issue if a person goes ahead with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    i would say, the person has the greater issue of 'bad temper' than 'sadism'. it was out of anger did the person have violent tendencies. if a person is not infuriated and merely enjoying himself on torturing people just for the fun of it, then yea, thats a sadist.
    Hmm yeah, 'bad temper' is a good way to describe it
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    i would say, the person has the greater issue of 'bad temper' than 'sadism'. it was out of anger did the person have violent tendencies. if a person is not infuriated and merely enjoying himself on torturing people just for the fun of it, then yea, thats a sadist.
    Thanks.

    Agree with that totally... from personal experiences.
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    What Gwok Fu does isn't sadism, but reckless disregard for human life.

    You know...like the average Asian driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    What Gwok Fu does isn't sadism, but reckless disregard for human life.

    You know...like the average Asian driver.
    Ken, that's very unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    What Gwok Fu does isn't sadism, but reckless disregard for human life.

    You know...like the average Asian driver.
    Is average asian driver that bad compare to average non-asian driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    Example of a sadistic act is Ah Zi torturing You Tan Zhi. Now, that's a sadist.
    Ah Zi is the mother of all sadist....
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    Aww, come on. This is the Gwok Fu Glorification Thread, don't go dragging us innocent drivers into the battle
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    Quote Originally Posted by athlee View Post
    Aww, come on. This is the Gwok Fu Glorification Thread, don't go dragging us innocent drivers into the battle
    We should start a "Asian drivers glorification thread".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    We should start a "Asian drivers glorification thread".
    lol. I think it will be OT and banned immediately
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    Quote Originally Posted by athlee View Post
    Aww, come on. This is the Gwok Fu Glorification Thread, don't go dragging us innocent drivers into the battle
    Ok. GF is smart (alecky), pretty (evil), and she's a winner (forcefully)
    What can I say? I'm still standing! No weapon against me shall prosper! I am more than a conqueror!!!

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