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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang bao View Post
    If people can hunt down sharks, why can't sharks hunt down people?
    We are arrogant. We think we are better and superior to other animal species, including sharks. That alone means we do not put ourselves on an equal pedestal as animals. Which is why when diseases break out, animals are culled while humans are saved.

    Life is never fair, so sharks will continue to get the short end of the stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    We are arrogant. We think we are better and superior to other animal species, including sharks. That alone means we do not put ourselves on an equal pedestal as animals. Which is why when diseases break out, animals are culled while humans are saved.

    Life is never fair, so sharks will continue to get the short end of the stick.
    Which is why we shouldn't leave nothing to be done. Be it in a form of retribution (nature occurrence), an effect like warning or human to do something, something has to be done. We can't just sit back and continue with an attitude like "Life is never fair". Certainly, in every situation (beyond this shark topic), life has never been fair. When we find it injustice, we fight a way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    We are arrogant. We think we are better and superior to other animal species, including sharks. That alone means we do not put ourselves on an equal pedestal as animals. Which is why when diseases break out, animals are culled while humans are saved.

    Life is never fair, so sharks will continue to get the short end of the stick.
    Well, we ARE better and superior to other animal species, including sharks, as proven by the fact that sharks aren't capable of kvetching about whether or not they are superior to fish/dolphins. They just ****ing eat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang bao View Post
    I like the vigilante groups that sink illegal fishing ships. Fight fire with fire. People who cut off shark fins and throw them back into the sea to die... I would like to see their limbs cut off and also tossed into the sea as punishment. It's only justice.

    If people can hunt down sharks, why can't sharks hunt down people? The problem is that the people that get killed by sharks aren't actually shark hunters and are innocent. But if we dish out fairer punishment toward shark killers such as the solution above, then at least sharks will get to kill the right humans.
    While I do not condone shark finning, but if the world is using your logic then every should die. People who eat pork should be killed and feed them to pigs. People who eat fish should be killed to and feed them to fishes. Vegan who eat vegetable should be killed and feed them to plants. ect....

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    If I were to asked to name a topic that would roil our forums in controversy for *years*, I could not have imagined it would be *this* one.

    I mean...the subject has no sex, politics, religion, social class, or race in it, and yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    While I do not condone shark finning, but if the world is using your logic then every should die. People who eat pork should be killed and feed them to pigs. People who eat fish should be killed to and feed them to fishes. Vegan who eat vegetable should be killed and feed them to plants. ect....
    Orh jeez, it's the holiday season, can't ya for once try to follow the argument along? The point here is that the sharks are being harvested for their fins and then tossed back into the sea while still alive and suffering. Unnecessary cruelty.

    It's not about eating animal meat.

    Besides, pigs and cows are raised to be eaten. There's no danger of the species dying out. Meanwhile, people eat shark fin as a status symbol or novelty. It's like those dickheads who were eating that half fried fish in the video I linked to. They just want to be dicks for the hell of it. Not because they need to.

    Anyway, we've been down this road many times before and I am just wasting finger movements now by bothering to type this, cuz you'll never get it.
    What are you fighting for? Just mix them into pissing beef balls, stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    It would be big shame to Hong Kong, China, and the asian race if they are bowing to the west like a slave by accepting cultural genocide. If Hong Kong or China ask the west to stop consuming beef, would they bow to the demand? I guess not. The more they are complaining is the more shark fin soup I am willing to consume even at the higher price. I will stop consuming shark fin soup when the west stop consuming beef.
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    It's by far the best tasting soup that available to mankind. Once you try it, I bet you will keep coming back to it. Life is so much better if you can eat them often.
    Warning: Sharkfin soup is highly addicted. Once you try it, you will keep coming back.
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    Sharkfin by itself doesn't taste good just like a jet can't fly without gas and pilot. With all the right ingredients such as chicken soup, crab meat, chicken breast, ect... they make the sharkfin soup tastes delicious. The soup by itself without the sharkfin still taste good but with the sharkfin it tastes so much better. If it's expensive and people still go for it, then it's must be good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    While I do not condone shark finning, but if the world is using your logic then every should die. People who eat pork should be killed and feed them to pigs. People who eat fish should be killed to and feed them to fishes. Vegan who eat vegetable should be killed and feed them to plants. ect....
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    I happened to like the texture of shark fins very much, I think that is the real reason why it's tasty (no its not overly hyped and the pricetag did not improve the taste ~ its blend by itself, but the texture is fantastic, very much the same reason why i really love sashimi ~ texture issue. I dont pollute them with wasabi or soysauce or whatever other sauces.
    Eating sharks encouraged shark abuse, watching porn encourages human abuse too~the latter in a much worst form. why are the human race still giving in so much to the overly hyped sexual overtones in the media excusing it as ok and some posteres here think of that many ways to 'seek justice from shark killers'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    Eating sharks encouraged shark abuse, watching porn encourages human abuse too~the latter in a much worst form. why are the human race still giving in so much to the overly hyped sexual overtones in the media excusing it as ok and some posteres here think of that many ways to 'seek justice from shark killers'
    Because animals cannot voice out their sufferings or do anything to overthrow the human race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remember_Cedric View Post
    [/indent][/indent][/indent]Because animals cannot voice out their sufferings or do anything to overthrow the human race.
    oppressed humans likewise do not have the chance to voice out their sufferings either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    oppressed humans likewise do not have the chance to voice out their sufferings either.
    If they allow others to help them, they can. Some just don't. Animals expressively yearned for a voice, but they can't except to wait for a physical event to "tell" human. that is, extinction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remember_Cedric View Post
    If they allow others to help them, they can. Some just don't. Animals expressively yearned for a voice, but they can't except to wait for a physical event to "tell" human. that is, extinction.
    not really, there are enough human-trafficking going on and many have no place to go to. and too often i see it right in the place i work in, alot of abuses going on. people die for very selfish reasons from citizens of more affluent countries. and these people died in silence, none of it make it to the headlines.

    and i cant do much either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    not really, there are enough human-trafficking going on and many have no place to go to. and too often i see it right in the place i work in, alot of abuses going on. people die for very selfish reasons from citizens of more affluent countries. and these people died in silence, none of it make it to the headlines.

    and i cant do much either.
    It is often, someone must stand up for a cause in order to make it happen. It's just like for a long long time, the animals' interest weren't taken care of until someone, some animal lover, decided to stand and unite other animal lovers to speak for them.

    Just a few days ago, something provoked my thoughts. It was a letter I've received from ACRES (a rescue center that acts as a reservoir/ a hospital/ home for the wildlife that has been misplaced from illegal pet trade, etc., or rescue the wildlife from falling into fate of becoming the next delicacy - shame human beings, shame!- on diner). With that, I thought, ACRES only existed in recent years (not more than 5, i think) so if someone could start something with minimal support, why can't I do something as simple as being a volunteer or maybe something as simple as stop consuming something that is going endangered or extinct. I love Sharkfin as much as anyone does (who are we kidding,eh?) but I could just stop this luxury hobby of mine to help the non-vocal specie and I would not impose but hope others would be conscious of this hurt to the wildlife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remember_Cedric View Post
    It is often, someone must stand up for a cause in order to make it happen. It's just like for a long long time, the animals' interest weren't taken care of until someone, some animal lover, decided to stand and unite other animal lovers to speak for them.

    Just a few days ago, something provoked my thoughts. It was a letter I've received from ACRES (a rescue center that acts as a reservoir/ a hospital/ home for the wildlife that has been misplaced from illegal pet trade, etc., or rescue the wildlife from falling into fate of becoming the next delicacy - shame human beings, shame!- on diner). With that, I thought, ACRES only existed in recent years (not more than 5, i think) so if someone could start something with minimal support, why can't I do something as simple as being a volunteer or maybe something as simple as stop consuming something that is going endangered or extinct. I love Sharkfin as much as anyone does (who are we kidding,eh?) but I could just stop this luxury hobby of mine to help the non-vocal specie.
    you knew whom i worked for....im not strong enough to face possible consequences for voicing out certain matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    you knew whom i worked for....im not strong enough to face possible consequences for voicing out certain matters.
    I know Just keep the needer and the needees in prayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    I happened to like the texture of shark fins very much, I think that is the real reason why it's tasty (no its not overly hyped and the pricetag did not improve the taste ~ its blend by itself, but the texture is fantastic, very much the same reason why i really love sashimi ~ texture issue. I dont pollute them with wasabi or soysauce or whatever other sauces.
    Eating sharks encouraged shark abuse, watching porn encourages human abuse too~the latter in a much worst form. why are the human race still giving in so much to the overly hyped sexual overtones in the media excusing it as ok and some posteres here think of that many ways to 'seek justice from shark killers'
    1. You're comparing entirely different things in order to support your view.
    2. Humans have a choice. Those who choose one thing or another are not abused, they're making that choice.
    3. Shark-finning, like rhino-horning and other such activities, is immensely wasteful. Kill an animal and just use a small proportion. If the hunters used the whole animal, rather than just a small part and letting the rest rot, it wouldn't be so bad (although it can still drive species like the dodo and the passenger pigeon into extinction).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    1. You're comparing entirely different things in order to support your view.
    2. Humans have a choice. Those who choose one thing or another are not abused, they're making that choice.
    3. Shark-finning, like rhino-horning and other such activities, is immensely wasteful. Kill an animal and just use a small proportion. If the hunters used the whole animal, rather than just a small part and letting the rest rot, it wouldn't be so bad (although it can still drive species like the dodo and the passenger pigeon into extinction).
    NOT all humans have choices. thats what i meant by suppresion. Slavery is still going on in this world right now. People of affluent countries never experienced that and often assumed everyone had the chance to live as free men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    NOT all humans have choices. thats what i meant by suppresion. Slavery is still going on in this world right now. People of affluent countries never experienced that and often assumed everyone had the chance to live as free men.
    Right Now???
    Are you kidding? Where in the world still having slavery?
    Life is short, so live it to the fullest. Don't let others dictate you as you owe them absolutely nothing. If you like sharkfin and they are not illegal then consume them as you please. As an individual, you won't make a difference whatsoever. If you don't consume them, someone else will. The phrase from the celebrities "don't do as I do, do as I said" doesn't work on me. Celebrities like Yao Ming keep telling people not to consume shark fin soup at the same time he served it on his wedding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Right Now???
    Are you kidding? Where in the world still having slavery?
    Haiti, for starters.

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    They funny thing is that shark fin may contain high levels of mercury. I hope it is true.

    China really does suck big time. Garbage tradition, lack of cultural morality, idiotic philosophy, no manners, selfishness, on and on.

    The only good thing about China is its crazy efficient (sometimes "too efficient") capital punishment system. Bullet in the head. Inexpensive, painless, and effective.
    What are you fighting for? Just mix them into pissing beef balls, stupid.
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