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    Default Did Cheung Mo Gei ever master Mo Dong Sect martial arts?

    Cheung Mo Gei was an acolyte of the Mo Dong Sect, but his training in Mo Dong Sect martial arts was limited. He learned a little of the Mo Dong Sect's martial arts from his father, Cheung Chui San, during childhood, and a little more from his grandteacher Cheung 3 Fung and his six martial uncles during his brief stay at Mt. Mo Dong before going on to Butterfly Canyon for treatment of his Yeun Ming Divine Palm injury. During young adulthood, Cheung Mo Gei also learned the Tai Chi Fist and Tai Chi Sword from Cheung 3 Fung, plus some additional Mo Dong Sect martial arts during the months while he was helping his martial uncles Yu Doi Nam and Yan Lei Ting to recuperate from their crippling injuries.

    Did Cheung Mo Gei ever master the Mo Dong Sect martial arts? He didn't spend much time training with his grandteacher or martial uncles, but given Cheung Mo Gei's background in the 9 Yeung Jen Ging and Keen Kwun Dai Loi Yee, could he have mastered Mo Dong Sect's martial arts in a relatively brief time?

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    If he could "master" the Shaolin dragon claws in a fight situation it is highly likely he could master any of the Wudang skills. If I remember correctly he demonstrated to Z3F that he understood the philosophy of Taiji fist and sword pretty quickly after Z3F demonstrated the forms.

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    It would make sense for Cheung Mo Gei to master the Mo Dong Sect martial arts. As a third-generation Mo Dong Sect acolyte, he was probably obligated to. Moreover, beyond his 9 Yeung inner power and Keen Kwun Dai Loi Yee, he was still notably lacking in actual fighting techniques. Mastering Mo Dong Sect martial arts would have been an ideal way to rectify that.

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    Didn't ZWJ use Wudang qinggong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Chen View Post
    Didn't ZWJ use Wudang qinggong?
    His display of Cloud Stairs at Brightness Peak was more awesome than any of the Wudang Heroes could do, but it was entirely internal-driven. Zhang Wuji mastered the philosophy of Wudang arts, but it's debatable how well he understood them as martial arts. Zhang Cuishan seems to have been better able to adapt his theoretical skills to combat practice.

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    Even Song Qingshu probably knows more Wudang skills than ZWJ. If we're talking about ability to learn, ZWJ can easily learn a lot more.

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    he di spend six months getting advice from ZSF after initially learning taiji quan and taji jianfa, so he should have mastered wudnag skills fully. he knew the basics and had spent a great deal of time watching hs uncles practice so he knew wudang skills quite well.
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    What do people think of Zhang Cuishan's feat of learning the Sabre & Sword poem martial art that Zhang Sanfeng created? It wasn't even demonstrated as a martial art, merely a set of brush strokes that became evidently martial in intent, but ZCS was able to understand it as an MA. Compare with Huang Rong learning the Carefree Wanderer fist technique from Hong Qigong, and Linghu Chong's learning of Dugu 9 Swords from Feng Qingyang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    What do people think of Zhang Cuishan's feat of learning the Sabre & Sword poem martial art that Zhang Sanfeng created? It wasn't even demonstrated as a martial art, merely a set of brush strokes that became evidently martial in intent, but ZCS was able to understand it as an MA. Compare with Huang Rong learning the Carefree Wanderer fist technique from Hong Qigong, and Linghu Chong's learning of Dugu 9 Swords from Feng Qingyang.
    Z3F demonstrated it once and ZCS used one night to memorize/meditate and used it the next day with great efficiency. As Z3F said, ZCS has a unique potential to learn MA.
    You do know that it is just fiction, dont you?

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    I think Zhang Cuisan is overrated.

    Zhang Sanfeng praised he has more potential than the rest of the brothers, but the rest of the brothers were not exactly Greats potential -- far from it. Even if he became twice as powerful as them, he would be nowhere near great level.

    Linghu Chong, Yang Guo, Huang Rong etc all have had praises of having great potential and have shown they understood martial arts incredibly fast. But in the end, without ridiculous luck and events, they would not have reached Great status.

    I think Zhang would be no exception. He didn't particularly love martial arts more than the average wulin member, he valued the xia virtue more than the wu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    I think Zhang Cuisan is overrated.

    Zhang Sanfeng praised he has more potential than the rest of the brothers, but the rest of the brothers were not exactly Greats potential -- far from it. Even if he became twice as powerful as them, he would be nowhere near great level.

    Linghu Chong, Yang Guo, Huang Rong etc all have had praises of having great potential and have shown they understood martial arts incredibly fast. But in the end, without ridiculous luck and events, they would not have reached Great status.

    I think Zhang would be no exception. He didn't particularly love martial arts more than the average wulin member, he valued the xia virtue more than the wu.
    Yang Gou needed extra ordinary circumstances to reach Great level in his thirties. Thats because he is a protagonist. The other Greats didnt become ROCH Greats until their 70's. Thats the normal progress. LHC is just sad. HR didnt care much for MA. I dont remember her being praised for MA potential.

    I dont know if ZCS would reach greatness in his 70's, given learning Taji from direct Z3F, but he would certainly not be far belove. Even if he is just belove Great, then I think he earned the potential praised he got.
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