Reaching you by phone

[blueberry]

Most of the time I always answer my phone.

When I'm driving, I usually have my phone out from the purse & onto my side, it's more for "if something happens, I can grab my phone easily kind of thing". So if I'm driving & somebody calls me and I recognize the number, I will answer and if it can wait, I will say that I'm driving & I will call back later.

If I'm in the meeting/movie theater/dinner date, I just put my phone in vibrate so it won't distract me.

My dad is BAD whenever he's calling me. He always forget that there's a 11 or 12 hrs time different between him & me. So there are a lot of times when he called me at 2 or 3 in the morning. I always answer, because god knows it may be very important call....and if it's just my dad wants to chit-chat, I will tell him to call me back in few hrs.

I hate it when people can't put down their phone even just for dinner. I met a group of new friends who seem to do this everytime & everywhere. They're always checking facebook or texting or just surfing the internet. I mean, hello, there's live person right in front of you that want to talk to you. Can't those facebook updates/texts/whatever wait just 1-2 more hrs? You're not gonna die if you don't announce to the world what you are doing every minute for the next 2 hrs!

I'm not a big fan of texting. I prefer to actually talk to someone.

[Ren Ying Ying]

No, that is where you're wrong. A cellphone is yours to do whatever you like with it. No one can force you to answer if you don't want to. And there are many who buy a cellphone for emergency uses only. The ones where they don't get incoming calls, they just make outgoing calls. There really are people who are like that, I for one am in the middle. If I'm expecting an important call then yes, i'll keep the device by me, if not then i leave it charging or on the table and do other things.

and yes, it was 15 years ago, is it wrong that i like how we lived back then? with less cellphone noise pollution and not hearing a cellphone go off when you're in a nice restaurant is a blessing!

if you are one of those who use cellphones for emergency only, there's no need to force it otherwise.

however, i think the main difference is attitude. it's a different case if you just didn't recieve calls and had no idea that someone is calling you. it's another thing when you know that someone is calling you and you choose to ignore it for whatever reason (not including inappropriate settings such as driving, school, work, etc).

[Guo Xiang]

if you are one of those who use cellphones for emergency only, there's no need to force it otherwise.

however, i think the main difference is attitude. it's a different case if you just didn't recieve calls and had no idea that someone is calling you. it's another thing when you know that someone is calling you and you choose to ignore it for whatever reason (not including inappropriate settings such as driving, school, work, etc).

I agree. It's just like someone calling you (by physical voice) and you ignores that person even though you hears him/her. It's very rude.

[kidd]

I hate it when people can't put down their phone even just for dinner. I met a group of new friends who seem to do this everytime & everywhere. They're always checking facebook or texting or just surfing the internet. I mean, hello, there's live person right in front of you that want to talk to you. Can't those facebook updates/texts/whatever wait just 1-2 more hrs? You're not gonna die if you don't announce to the world what you are doing every minute for the next 2 hrs!

This one is over doing it. I also don't understand why people want play facebook even when they are outside and not in front of the PC.

[GuGu]

i agree, it's all up to attitude. that's why i find it wrong when someone comes in here and makes the ones that don't live with our cellphones attached to us 'inconsiderate'.

Seriously, some people here sound so proud that they don't answer their phone/don't return calls. That's really damn inconsiderate (not to you Lucre since you have a valid reason).

like i said, you can live with it attached to you, but just understand that there are some of us who don't. i'm not telling you to live like us, but don't say we're 'inconsiderate' for not being like you. being how i am should i call you disturbing/annoying for answering your phone on the elevator, bus, restaurant, or any other public place? no, then i would get jumped in this thread. so just because i am backing up my own way of life doesn't give anyone the right to say i'm 'inconsiderate' towards my family and friends. you don't know what i go through for my family and friends. and not answering their calls right away or when i'm doing something else doesn't make me an inconsiderate person. like i've stated, if their message requires me to give them a call back then i'll call back.

[GuGu]

I agree. It's just like someone calling you (by physical voice) and you ignores that person even though you hears him/her. It's very rude.

no dear, it's not the same. if you're standing there in front of the person they see us physically. but if you call their cellphone and they don't pick up then there are many reasons as to why we didn't pick up. maybe the phone is lost? maybe we're busy? maybe we're not by our phone? see, it's not the same.

[Guo Xiang]

no dear, it's not the same. if you're standing there in front of the person they see us physically. but if you call their cellphone and they don't pick up then there are many reasons as to why we didn't pick up. maybe the phone is lost? maybe we're busy? maybe we're not by our phone? see, it's not the same.

I'm going by the ignoring case, so it's pointless to bring in this sort of argument. They may think otherwise 'cos they can't see you, but the argument is not lost on the person who ignores the phonecall on purpose without a valid reason (deaf, stalker, friggin pissed at that person).

Btw, when people ask why you didn't pick up their calls, did you tell them 'cos it's because you don't want to or something? And what happens if the call is about something very important? Dying relative, job interview? Good luck to you then.

[kidd]

I'm going by the ignoring case, so it's pointless to bring in this sort of argument. They may think otherwise 'cos they can't see you, but the argument is not lost on the person who ignores the phonecall on purpose without a valid reason (deaf, stalker, friggin pissed at that person).

Btw, when people ask why you didn't pick up their calls, did you tell them 'cos it's because you don't want to or something? And what happens if the call is about something very important? Dying relative, job interview? Good luck to you then.

Yes. That's what I've been trying to say. I've never said anyone should attach themselves to their phone. My argument is always towards deliberately not answering the phone without valid reason. So, reasons like the phone is lost, busy and not by the phone is not even the point. My phone is also not always beside me either. I've also sometimes left it in my room. But, when my phone is around me and I heard it ringing I will answer if I can.

[Lucre]

well, one can always turn around and called 'the caller is inconsiderate to disturb you' and you can always not pick up a call. i think it boils down to attitude, are you a person who always put your own concerns on the highest plane, or you're the kind that also tries to seek a balance for concerns of others with yourself. the differnce in the attitude will reflect how you see this situation. to pick, or not to pick up the call, and if you're the caller, do you take offense when others do not return the call?

[GuGu]

I'm going by the ignoring case, so it's pointless to bring in this sort of argument. They may think otherwise 'cos they can't see you, but the argument is not lost on the person who ignores the phonecall on purpose without a valid reason (deaf, stalker, friggin pissed at that person).

how is my argument not valid? you stated that it's the same as physically being in someone's presence when in reality it's not. am i the only one that sees this point? someone physically standing in front of you and ignoring you is different from someone calling their cellphone and the person not picking up.

Btw, when people ask why you didn't pick up their calls, did you tell them 'cos it's because you don't want to or something? And what happens if the call is about something very important? Dying relative, job interview? Good luck to you then.

like i said, LEAVE A MESSAGE IF IT'S IMPORTANT and i'll get back to you IF it's important to me too. and yeah, most of my friends and family members know this about me. they don't ask me why i don't pick up they'll just be like did you see that i called you? and i'll be like yeah? you didn't leave me a message so i ruled it as not being important. and yes, they do understand because most of the time they're calling to just see how i'm doing.

dying relative? they'll leave a message.
job interview? nope, i haven't applied for any jobs lately.

[Guo Xiang]

like i said, LEAVE A MESSAGE IF IT'S IMPORTANT and i'll get back to you IF it's important to me too. and yeah, most of my friends and family members know this about me. they don't ask me why i don't pick up they'll just be like did you see that i called you? and i'll be like yeah? you didn't leave me a message so i ruled it as not being important. and yes, they do understand because most of the time they're calling to just see how i'm doing.

dying relative? they'll leave a message.
job interview? nope, i haven't applied for any jobs lately.

For this, Lucre had stated a good point a couple of posts before. What if the person calling you with an urgent matter at hand can't text?

The interview is supposed to be an example, an IF.

[kidd]

For this, Lucre had stated a good point a couple of posts before. What if the person calling you with an urgent matter at hand can't text?

The interview is supposed to be an example, an IF.

I think she means the 'Please leave a message after the tone....' kind of message. Just a guess.

[Guo Xiang]

I think she means the 'Please leave a message after the tone....' kind of message. Just a guess.

Oh, I see.

[GuGu]

For this, Lucre had stated a good point a couple of posts before. What if the person calling you with an urgent matter at hand can't text?

The interview is supposed to be an example, an IF.

if it's that urgent then they should be calling nine-one-one.

[Lucre]

if it's that urgent then they should be calling nine-one-one.

lol, but what if they called 911, because something happens, and then you happened to be the next-of-kin, so it still comes back to your line, darling. (dont take offence that im cursing you whatsoever, im not, im just illustrating the effect ~ )

[kay &!*]

no dear, it's not the same. if you're standing there in front of the person they see us physically. but if you call their cellphone and they don't pick up then there are many reasons as to why we didn't pick up. maybe the phone is lost? maybe we're busy? maybe we're not by our phone? see, it's not the same.

so what about someone calling your name but you guys do not physically see each other?
an example would be if you were upstairs and your mom/sis/uncle/cousin/dog/cat/fish just came home and called out your name to see if you were present.
would you ignore them because you were in the bathroom waxing your legs?
or how about when your mom/sis/uncle/cousin/dog/cat/fish forgot their keys at home and they remember you stayed in that day so they tried calling to *make sure* you would be home to open the door for them.
i guess you weren't able to pick up since you purposely left your phone upstairs and couldn't hear because you were cooking downstairs.
sounds pretty the same to me

the scenario i pointed out aren't "omfg dying emergency!!" but it's definitely something that would make the life of the person trying to reach you so much easier.

from what i've read, it seems like you have the cellphone for the convenience of yourself and no one else you said you're only nearby the phone when you're expecting a (important) call, you'll only call back if they leave a message, and when you're in need of help i.e. getting stuck in the middle of the highway at midnight.
that, in a way, is inconsiderate.

if that's the case, i hope you have a seperate home-phone where people can reach you when you *are* at home and *not* by your cell; which i doubt or else you wouldn't be complaining. and it brings to another point-- you said it yourself that flashback 15 years when we didn't have mobiles. but now a days, people often REPLACE home-phones with just a cell and that's the ONLY way others can reach them. so what's the difference with people calling you through your cell when you're at home to people calling you through the home-phone?

if that's the way you utilize your cell, i think it's best if you only have your cellphone for outgoing calls and then a seperate home-phone so people can reach you at 'only' appropiate times

those of us who always have the phone nearby, who tries to pick up or at least acknowledge the caller we received their message does not make us truly 'attached'; in the sense that we don't check every 5 min and surf facebook when we're out with friends. it's all about attitude and like i said, knowing WHEN is the appropiate time to talk about your life story and when not to. we're just a bit more considerate and care for the convenience of others, too.

[GuGu]

lol, but what if they called 911, because something happens, and then you happened to be the next-of-kin, so it still comes back to your line, darling. (dont take offence that im cursing you whatsoever, im not, im just illustrating the effect ~ )

yes, then they will leave me a message and i'll call them back.

[GuGu]

so what about someone calling your name but you guys do not physically see each other?
an example would be if you were upstairs and your mom/sis/uncle/cousin/dog/cat/fish just came home and called out your name to see if you were present.
would you ignore them because you were in the bathroom waxing your legs?
or how about when your mom/sis/uncle/cousin/dog/cat/fish forgot their keys at home and they remember you stayed in that day so they tried calling to *make sure* you would be home to open the door for them.
i guess you weren't able to pick up since you purposely left your phone upstairs and couldn't hear because you were cooking downstairs.
sounds pretty the same to me

my mom/sis/uncle/cousin don't live with me and they aren't allowed in my house without me there. i don't have a dog/cat/fish or any other kind of pet. and when my family comes over i'm downstairs with them in the main living area.

and if i was in the bathroom then yes, i do ignore people who come and try to find me. i don't wax my legs.. i'm asian i don't have much body hair. and if i was doing other things like peeing, pooping, showering, etc. NO ONE will come and bother me. it's just a rule in my house.

the scenario i pointed out aren't "omfg dying emergency!!" but it's definitely something that would make the life of the person trying to reach you so much easier.

from what i've read, it seems like you have the cellphone for the convenience of yourself and no one else you said you're only nearby the phone when you're expecting a (important) call, you'll only call back if they leave a message, and when you're in need of help i.e. getting stuck in the middle of the highway at midnight.
that, in a way, is inconsiderate.

if that's the case, i hope you have a seperate home-phone where people can reach you when you *are* at home and *not* by your cell; which i doubt or else you wouldn't be complaining. and it brings to another point-- you said it yourself that flashback 15 years when we didn't have mobiles. but now a days, people often REPLACE home-phones with just a cell and that's the ONLY way others can reach them. so what's the difference with people calling you through your cell when you're at home to people calling you through the home-phone?

if that's the way you utilize your cell, i think it's best if you only have your cellphone for outgoing calls and then a seperate home-phone so people can reach you at 'only' appropiate times

why would i trouble myself and have two phone bills? i can have one and operate it the way i see pleased. yes, a cellphone for me is for my personal convenience. the people around me understands how it's used that's why they don't have a problem with me not scrambling to answer my cell everytime i hear a ring. i just want you guys to understand that there are people like me in this world. just because you guys do it that way it doesn't mean i have to do it also. it's not right to label us inconsiderate just because of it.

those of us who always have the phone nearby, who tries to pick up or at least acknowledge the caller we received their message does not make us truly 'attached'; in the sense that we don't check every 5 min and surf facebook when we're out with friends. it's all about attitude and like i said, knowing WHEN is the appropiate time to talk about your life story and when not to. we're just a bit more considerate and care for the convenience of others, too.

if you have time and is not occupied with other things then go ahead and answer it. i'm not saying anything. when did i call you guys names for it? when i was saying people who are attached to their cell i was referring to the extreme cases who dig through their bags while driving or taking a long *** call while out with other friends.

anyways, i think i've repeated the same things over and over again, if you guys don't get me then yeah, whatever. lets rest it at this. too lazy to read today. plus it's not like we'll ever call each other.

[kidd]

i just want you guys to understand that there are people like me in this world. just because you guys do it that way it doesn't mean i have to do it also. it's not right to label us inconsiderate just because of it.

No you don't have to do it that way. You have the right to do it whatever way you want. But, some of us will still think the act is inconsiderate.

anyways, i think i've repeated the same things over and over again, if you guys don't get me then yeah, whatever. lets rest it at this. too lazy to read today. plus it's not like we'll ever call each other.

Not getting and not agreeing is not the same. We can get and still not agree.

yes, a cellphone for me is for my personal convenience. the people around me understands how it's used that's why they don't have a problem with me not scrambling to answer my cell everytime i hear a ring.

Even if they have a problem with it, what can they do? You won't change the way you do things. They can either tolerate it and get use to it or make a fuss which won't do anyone any good. Since you said you gone through a lot for you families and friends, they certainly won't want to loss connection with you over this small matter.

Yeah, I know. You need your personal space and privacy a lot and very greatly so since your family can't even be in your house if you are not around and I assume won't be able to enter your room since they will be confine to the room downstairs.

i agree, it's all up to attitude. that's why i find it wrong when someone comes in here and makes the ones that don't live with our cellphones attached to us 'inconsiderate'.

Seriously, some people here sound so proud that they don't answer their phone/don't return calls. That's really damn inconsiderate (not to you Lucre since you have a valid reason).

like i said, you can live with it attached to you, but just understand that there are some of us who don't. i'm not telling you to live like us, but don't say we're 'inconsiderate' for not being like you. being how i am should i call you disturbing/annoying for answering your phone on the elevator, bus, restaurant, or any other public place? no, then i would get jumped in this thread. so just because i am backing up my own way of life doesn't give anyone the right to say i'm 'inconsiderate' towards my family and friends. you don't know what i go through for my family and friends. and not answering their calls right away or when i'm doing something else doesn't make me an inconsiderate person. like i've stated, if their message requires me to give them a call back then i'll call back.

I just mean not answer phones and not calling back is an inconsiderate. Not the whole person who does that is inconsiderate.

Why being so defensive if you are perfectly fine with what you are doing and don't think it's an inconsiderate action? Why need to make it sound like we are attacking your whole person when we are just talking about one act/habit/practice?

And this sentence ''inconsiderate' towards my family and friends', I didn't say it. You deduce it that way by combining several of my posts.

Btw, no one is calling anyone names so far. 'Inconsiderate' and 'attach to their phone' is the same degree to me. If you think saying someone/some act is considerate is 'name calling', then you are also 'name calling' by saying someone is attached his/her their phone since it's sound like belittling.

[kay &!*]

and i guess you don't understand what we're trying to say
i love how you answered the question and totally blocked out the "what if" part.
i brought the scenario as something that is likely to happen-- doesn't actually mean it has/will happen
i'm just trying to see how you can justify the two being totally different. i brought up a point so back yours up
and i'm pretty sure everyone will agree with the peeing/pooping/showering part. who's gona answer the phone/yell "i'm home" while taking a shit?


why would you trouble yourself with 2 phone bills? you said it yourself and i repeated. the cell seems to be an inconvenience at certain times so why don't you convert to the way it was 15 years ago? you preferred how ppl only call you at certain appropiate times-- the home phone is it. i mean, why have a cell-phone, a super convenient device, when people can't contact you at certain time of the day? with the home phone, they can.

we get it that there are those out there like yourself and the way ya'll utilize the mobile. and how i see it, you guys are the inconsiderate users. giving the one & only option for others to reach you yet, you guys don't bother to answer half of the time? hahaha it's kinda like an ultimatum for people. wana reach me? better let me know its important ahead of time or i won't be nearby the phone.

and u didn't call us names, did i say that? u just said we are attached.

like i said, you can live with it attached to you, but just understand that there are some of us who don't.

oh well. you're the one paying for the phone. you choose how you do with it. since you said your friends/family are aware of this, whatever