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    If you can have Jiu Yang Zhen Jing and Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, is it possible to have Yi Yang Zhi and Yi Yin Zhi? or does that even make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodrick View Post
    If you can have Jiu Yang Zhen Jing and Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, is it possible to have Yi Yang Zhi and Yi Yin Zhi? or does that even make sense?
    In the first edition of HSDS, Yi Yin Zhi was exactly what Cheng Kun used to disable the Ming cult. In later editions, it was changed to Huan (illusionary) Yin Zhi instead.

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    the yi yin zhi or huan yin zhi was considered a heritical skill due to the fact it uses a toxic type yin chi. while yi yang zhi is an orthodox skill of the buddhist skill.
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    I think it's extremely difficult to cultivate a balanced high-calibre Yin-Yang energy system for your martial arts. Most high level martial artists choose one or the other. To practice both 9 Yin and 9 Yang would probably be dangerous.

    I don't mean using an internal Yin energy to power an external Yang art like Guo Jing with XL18Z. I mean cultivating 2 internal energies, one is Yin and the other is Yang, like Shi Potian did which would have killed him if not for a freak accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    I think it's extremely difficult to cultivate a balanced high-calibre Yin-Yang energy system for your martial arts. Most high level martial artists choose one or the other. To practice both 9 Yin and 9 Yang would probably be dangerous.

    I don't mean using an internal Yin energy to power an external Yang art like Guo Jing with XL18Z. I mean cultivating 2 internal energies, one is Yin and the other is Yang, like Shi Potian did which would have killed him if not for a freak accident.
    I have to disagree here; I think many/most high level orthodox martial artists can and DO cultivate balanced internal, such as Quanzhen sect; 9 Yin as well appears to be neutral. Although there are people whose internal energy tend more towards Yang or Yin, people who go to the extreme in one or the other type of internal energy (such as Zhang San and Li Si) seem to be less common.

    Shi Potian's problem was that he cultivated high internal Yin energy and high internal Yang energy, but was intentionally never taught how to merge them together, with Xie Yanke hoping that this would cause his death.

    The cultivation of internal strength had always emphasised the complement of the yin and the yang, regardless of whether it was for strengthening the body and healing illnesses, or setting a foundation prior to the learning of top-notch martial arts techniques. Fire and water -- in an allusion to two things that are diametrically opposed to each other -- had to work hand-in-hand with each other, so after learning the 'Foot Shaoyin Channel of the Kidney', the 'Foot Shaoyang Channel of the Gall Bladder' should be learnt next. When the Shaoyin and the Shaoyang were blended in harmony, the strength of the body would increase.

    However, Xie Yanke had told him to practise only the channels of Shaoyin, Jueyin, Taiyin, Yinwei and Yinjiao, without teaching him any of the complementary channels of Shaoyang, Yangming and the others. Consequently, the yin energy in the boy's body increased immensely over the years, while his yang energy declined. In fact, the accummulated yin energy had reached such dangerous levels that the slightest misstep would immediately be fatal.

    Yet, although Xie Yanke could see the invasion of the yin energy in his body, the boy had strangely remained very much alive. Almost at once, he understood. The boy was simple and ignorant all along, without any knowledge of the affairs around him or any thoughts that might have distracted him from his training. Hence, he had not reached the point of over-practising and infatuation with power. If it were someone else, he would have been interrupted by the unavoidable emotions and desires of life, and died a long time ago from the slightest flight of fancy that arose.

    Xie Yanke thought: This 'gouzazhong' (bastard) is now stuck on this cliff with me, and I am afraid that he has to suffer for a number of years to come. If I allow him to leave, he would probably die within days of contact with the dazzling temptations of the human world. So long as this 'gouzazhong' is alive, people can use him to threaten me, so I cannot take such a dangerous risk. After some thought, he had an idea: I will teach him the techniques associated with the 'yang' channels, without telling him how to harmonise the 'yin' and the 'yang'. When the 'yang' energy in his body has reached a certain level of accummulation, it will begin to collide with the 'yin' energy. A dragon and a tiger in battle will not stop until one of them is dead. So even if there are no distracting thoughts in his heart and mind, he would still die as a result of the disharmony of energies. Yes, this plan is wonderful indeed.

    Thus, he started teaching the boy the techniques associated with the Yangjiao Channel(9). He did not follow the sequence of imparting the techniques of the Shaoyang, Yangming and Taiyang Channels first; instead, he had begun with the second most difficult Channel of Yangjiao. As for the Ren and Du Channels that allowed the connection of the yin and yang energies, he ignored them not because the boy had not attained a suitable level of internal energy, but because learning the techniques associated with them did not fit into his plan.

    As for the boy, he simply practised as he had been instructed. Although progress was considerably slow, he had a naturally high level of persistence that pushed him along. More than a year later, he finally mastered the Yangjiao Channel. The channels that ensued were increasingly easier to learn.
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