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The Moral Sense Test
I didn't take the test. But, I know one of the test is the railroad test.The Moral Sense Test is a Web-based study into the nature of human moral judgment. How do human beings decide what is right and wrong? To answer this question, we have designed a series of moral dilemmas to probe the psychological mechanisms underlying our moral judgments. By presenting these dilemmas on the Web, we hope to gain insight into the similarities and differences between the moral judgments of people of different ages, from different cultures, with different educational backgrounds and religious beliefs, involved in different occupations and exposed to very different circumstances.
什麼是朋友?朋友永遠是在你犯下不可原諒錯誤的時候,仍舊站在你那邊的笨蛋。~ 王亞瑟
和諧唔係一百個人講同一番話,係一百個人有一百句唔同嘅說話,而又互相尊重 ~ - 葉梓恩
I didn't know Marc Hauser studies morality. I really should know this stuff.
Because I'm somewhere in between,
My love and my agony.
bc in the bugatti example, he is taking an active role in taking a life. in the not donating, it's your inaction that has the same result. so, in the car example, the guy wouldn't have died if you didn't kill him. in the a poor kid in africa example, he wouldn't live unless you save him. ie, one is choosing to kill and the other is just choosing not to save.
nytimes: Every hr you have 10 minutes where you’re not doing anything productive at work, & you can’t look at porn. So you make a comment & fulfill this desire to show yourself off as a smarty-pants.
seriously, that $200 bucks buy an ipod or save an african kid crap is not even valid. like someone said, we're all born into this world without anything. we work and get whatever we need or want. chance, luck, and opportunities being another factor, if we're able to make our own life a little easier, a little more entertaining, who wouldn't do it? so why am i morally obligated to 'save' an african kid who i would never meet in this life and who will more than likely have no impact on my life. when i buy an ipod it makes me happy. it keeps me company when i'm bored. i can download a piano or guitar and play it for my own enjoyment or for the enjoyment of others around me. i worked for that money and i'll use it however i like.
it goes to reflect when that the situation comes to our ownself, we tend to be very 'selfish' ~ much as i cannot say how i will react given the same scenario, i would probably tie myself if i have to, so that i would not deviate the path and kill the fellow.
money can never replace moral integrity.
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The only thing I need to know is that I don't know anything.
ummm i'm not sure. probably fix
okay.
well, say the story changed by a small, TINY detail.
what if he noticed the train but it was already going towards the tracks of the person?
he still has the option of changing it to save the person's life, or walk away as if he didn't see the person.
isn't it the same?
are u also suggesting that what the man did wasn't wrong at all? he saw the person up there but he didn't know him. he's not obligated to save anyone so instead, he'll just save himself (his $$).
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Yes, if:
- "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die". (why prolong their slow and agonizing death when you can end their misery and use the reward to benefit another's cause?)
OR
- "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise". (if their death is inevitable, a mere 5 minutes more/less is quite insignificant, IMO)
I mean, 5 million is a lot of money and if I donate most of it to a good cause, I kinda think the ends justify the means.
Well it's a good thing insurance exists.
In theory, I'd instinctively switch the gears to save the person if placed in this situation. I simply can't fathom myself having to debate between sparing the life of a living, breathing human being and that of an inanimate object no matter what its value. Quite incomprehensible why anyone would invest their ENTIRE life savings on a car, though.
All talk.
Show me the bloody button!
"Anything you can't say NO to is your MASTER, and you are its SLAVE."
"I disapprove of what I say, but I will defend to the death my right to say it."
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
False choice and pseudo-philosophy.
There are three major differences between the 'train' scenario and the 'ipod' scenario.
1) Immediacy: Being willing to watch a human being die in front of you is tremendously different psychologically from simply being intellectually aware of the fact that someone is dying a continent away. That's why soldiers get PTSD and you or I don't.
2) Urgency: Action, or lack thereof, in the case of the 'train'/'box' scenario will result in immediate death of the bystander, which is not the case in the 'ipod' scenario.
3) Relevancy: In the 'train'/'box' scenario, you and you alone are directly responsible for a single choice which will result in that person's life or death. In the 'ipod' scenario (aka real life), this is not the case; there are multiple other factors, including his family, his community, organizations/NGO's/governments/etc. that play a role in deciding whether the kid will live or die. For that matter, it is entirely possible that even if you don't put in the $200, someone else will. It is also possible that if you put in the $200, the kid will die anyhow, or that if you don't put in the $200, he will still manage to live. This is not a possibility in the 'train'/'box' scenario.
It is normal for a human being to be relatively psychologically unaffected by something which is distant, non-urgent, and which they have a limited impact on.
It is sociopathic for a human being to be psychologically unaffected by something which is immediate, urgent, and which they hold the 100% final decision on.
Last edited by Ren Wo Xing; 03-21-10 at 10:48 AM.
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bravo, well put.
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I don't like RWX's response.
We were nearly there with shaming people for buying iPods. *This* close. Until he had to butt in with some sober analysis.
Now the world will remain infested with shitty Apple products.
"Anything you can't say NO to is your MASTER, and you are its SLAVE."
"I disapprove of what I say, but I will defend to the death my right to say it."