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    This question is based on the premise of 'The Box' and 'Button, Button'.

    1) If there's a person giving you a box with a button and said that if you push the button you will get 5 million dollars but a person you don't know will die, will you do it?

    2) If the person who will die is one of the following, will you push it? (this is modified from a post in imdb comment section)

    - "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die".
    - "a convict on death row will die".
    - "a 100 year old person will die".
    - "a fetus will die in the womb" (late-term fetus).
    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".
    - "Rush Limbaugh will die".
    - "someone's pet dog or cat will die".
    - "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise".
    - "a homeless crack or meth addict will die".
    - "someone with inoperable cancer will die".
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    The money is very tempting, but I don't think I would want the guilt of knowing I ended somebody's life based on greed.

    However, I will push the button for free to get rid of:
    - "a convict on death row will die".
    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".

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    No amount of money would make me want to commit murder, even if I'm not physically present at the time.
    As for the criminals on the list, yes they deserve forms of punishment, but it's not up to me to deal out the form of punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    This question is based on the premise of 'The Box' and 'Button, Button'.

    1) If there's a person giving you a box with a button and said that if you push the button you will get 5 million dollars but a person you don't know will die, will you do it?
    No, I wouldn't do it if it costs a life of an innocent person.

    2) If the person who will die is one of the following, will you push it? (this is modified from a post in imdb comment section)

    - "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die".
    I don't want the money but if the patient wants to die I will push it to help ending his/her suffering.

    - "a convict on death row will die".
    I will do it without monetary reward.

    - "a 100 year old person will die".
    No, if that person still want to live. Nothing wrong with being 100 years old.

    - "a fetus will die in the womb" (late-term fetus).
    No, if the fetus is healthy, then killing the fetus is just like killing an innocent life.

    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".
    More than happy to do it without any monetary reward.

    - "Rush Limbaugh will die".
    No. I may not share his political view, but there is nothing wrong with him. At least he doesn't support criminals and pimps like the NAACP and ACORN. I might have a second thought if it was member of the NAACP or ACORN.

    - "someone's pet dog or cat will die".
    No. I may dislike dogs and cats but I would want to kill them myself.

    - "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise".
    No, life is precious. I have no right to take away 5 minutes of someone's life.
    - "a homeless crack or meth addict will die".
    No. Even though I dislike addict and have little sympathy for them, but I have no right to end their life either.

    - "someone with inoperable cancer will die".
    No. If that person suffers great amount of pain and want to die, then I don't mind to help them rest in peace. But if he/she still want to live then ending his/her life without their consent is murder and I do not want to be a murderer.
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    My answer is NO to all examples, and 5 million dollars is 'just money'.

    My explanation as follows.

    1. No because I cannot play God. If he wanted to end his suffering I can only pray for God to take his life away. If God doesn't, neither can I.

    2. There has been instances where a convict on death row might upon later situation swapped to life sentence etc. I have no right to deny him that possibility. Plus, convict doesn't mean neccessary evil either - cases of innocent people taking the blame do exist.

    3. Being old isn't a sin. Killing him because he's old is cruel.

    4. Whether late or early, fetes IS life, and hence no.

    5. I can only pray for God to turn his heart. Much as God doesn't wish to let go of anyone of us, neither will I wish to do that.

    6. I don't wish death upon anyone no matter what he or she does.

    7. Much as I'm not some animal-activist, theres absolutely no reason to just kill off a pet - and cause grief to the owner. (I ever done that but that's when I'm below six, and under age of reason)

    8. 5 mins might mean alot to him - perhaps a conversion of heart took place in that last 5 mins.

    9. Homeless or not, addict or not, he's still human and deserved as much chance as you and I, to live.

    10. Not all cancer go through operation. Very much like the five minutes fellow - just because there's 'certain odds' of that person dying, it doesnt mean a miracle wouldn't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    This question is based on the premise of 'The Box' and 'Button, Button'.

    1) If there's a person giving you a box with a button and said that if you push the button you will get 5 million dollars but a person you don't know will die, will you do it?

    2) If the person who will die is one of the following, will you push it? (this is modified from a post in imdb comment section)

    - "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die".
    - "a convict on death row will die".
    - "a 100 year old person will die".
    - "a fetus will die in the womb" (late-term fetus).
    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".
    - "Rush Limbaugh will die".
    - "someone's pet dog or cat will die".
    - "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise".
    - "a homeless crack or meth addict will die".
    - "someone with inoperable cancer will die".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    This question is based on the premise of 'The Box' and 'Button, Button'.

    1) If there's a person giving you a box with a button and said that if you push the button you will get 5 million dollars but a person you don't know will die, will you do it?

    2) If the person who will die is one of the following, will you push it? (this is modified from a post in imdb comment section)

    - "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die".
    - "a convict on death row will die".
    - "a 100 year old person will die".
    - "a fetus will die in the womb" (late-term fetus).
    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".
    - "Rush Limbaugh will die".
    - "someone's pet dog or cat will die".
    - "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise".
    - "a homeless crack or meth addict will die".
    - "someone with inoperable cancer will die".
    The options are merely temptations to get you into killing someone, and feeling less guilty about it.

    Very tempting indeed... but I'd have to say 'no'.
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    I'd press it so fast that I might even break the button, then spend a couple of grands on a good lawyer to come up with a perfectly legitimate and ethical reason for why I did it.
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    I would live a life of guilt knowing that I ended another person's life for money I didn't earn or deserve. My answer is no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    This question is based on the premise of 'The Box' and 'Button, Button'.

    1) If there's a person giving you a box with a button and said that if you push the button you will get 5 million dollars but a person you don't know will die, will you do it?

    2) If the person who will die is one of the following, will you push it? (this is modified from a post in imdb comment section)

    - "a terminally ill patient in great suffering will die".
    - "a convict on death row will die".
    - "a 100 year old person will die".
    - "a fetus will die in the womb" (late-term fetus).
    - "a murderer or rapist who has never been caught will die".
    - "Rush Limbaugh will die".
    - "someone's pet dog or cat will die".
    - "a person will die 5 minutes before he/she would have died otherwise".
    - "a homeless crack or meth addict will die".
    - "someone with inoperable cancer will die".
    1) no
    2) depends on which of these choices. no to all except murderer/rapist (been watching too much dexter) and possibly rush limbaugh. in scenario 2, the money is just a bonus.
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    no for all questions. I think I will only kill if it is under military order (e.g. war) or to save someone.

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    I'll do it. Someone I don't know means just about nothing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banh Mi View Post
    I'll do it. Someone I don't know means just about nothing to me.
    but it could be the guy who finds a cure for a cancer or a little kid or some an EMT who was supposed to save your life in a horrific car accident in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pemberly View Post
    but it could be the guy who finds a cure for a cancer or a little kid or some an EMT who was supposed to save your life in a horrific car accident in the future.
    It could be anything and people die everyday. I don't know what the future brings, if I happen to hasten my death by killing someone, I'll die one day anyway I hope I won't be too fussed. If it was someone I knew, or I knew if they could relate to me, then I would give it some thought. But I don't know how it would come about changing things for me, so I won't stress it too much.

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    yes, i would*

    this seriously got me thinking back to my philosophy class..

    each one of us isn't doing anything to 'save' a life, so what's wrong with this? a life is being taken away anyways, might as well get $$ for it.


    (*btw, i actually wouldn't. just reasoning it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kay &!* View Post
    yes, i would*

    this seriously got me thinking back to my philosophy class..

    each one of us isn't doing anything to 'save' a life, so what's wrong with this? a life is being taken away anyways, might as well get $$ for it.


    (*btw, i actually wouldn't. just reasoning it)
    We might not be saving lives, but we are not killing (a human being), are we? Pushing the button makes you a murderer. How many people who doesn't go their way out to save lives are really murderers?

    The saving life line is presumptous anyway. I think if people come across anyone in dire need of help, any normal decent person would help that someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    We might not be saving lives, but we are not killing (a human being), are we? Pushing the button makes you a murderer. How many people who doesn't go their way out to save lives are really murderers?

    The saving life line is presumptous anyway. I think if people come across anyone in dire need of help, any normal decent person would help that someone.
    have u donated $200 to save a kid's life in need of help? or did you use that to buy an ipod instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kay &!* View Post
    have u donated $200 to save a kid's life in need of help? or did you use that to buy an ipod instead?
    I did donate monthly to Unicef.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kay &!* View Post
    have u donated $200 to save a kid's life in need of help? or did you use that to buy an ipod instead?
    buying ipod contributes to sales, hence many people will remained employed. imagine if everytime someone wanna buy an ipod and decide its frivolous, and seek for 'children to save' instead, then the company will fold up, many people lose their jobs, and who knows, once economy suffers, you might just get more of these kids who's life will be made a difference in $200.

    we do not measure our 'goodness' by how many 'merits' we have done, but given in any situation, will you do the right thing?

    on the other hand, donating to charities (for example) but continued to choose to 'do evil', doesnt make you a better person either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kay &!* View Post
    have u donated $200 to save a kid's life in need of help? or did you use that to buy an ipod instead?
    I've donated before, and helped people financially before, but I also did spent money on ipod and other stuff.

    Then again, there's no rule that says you can't do both at the same time. So there's no need to make it sound too exclusive.
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    If I do something I do it all the way or not at all, I say NO to all choices except to the criminals who werent caught. I'd also do it for free, their lives became meaningless the moment they ended somebody elses (yes, rape is also ending someone's life).

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