Will you push the button?

[Candide]

How SWPLy of you to say that.

[xJadedx]

Last time I checked, liking quality products isn't something restricted to "white" people only. But whatever floats your boat.

[Ren Wo Xing]

You crossed the line there, buddy. Never badmouth Apple. At least, not Macs.

Well, no. Candide is right here. Macs are overpriced crap.

I do love my iPhone though...pity about the stupid carrier locking thing...sigh. Can't unlock the newest firmware yet, either...grrrr...

[xJadedx]

Well, no. Candide is right here. Macs are overpriced crap.

I do love my iPhone though...pity about the stupid carrier locking thing...sigh. Can't unlock the newest firmware yet, either...grrrr...

No, he's not. Macs may be overpriced, but they're worth the money. I have yet to meet a single person who made the switch from PC to Mac and doesn't like it.

[kay &!*]

False choice and pseudo-philosophy.

There are three major differences between the 'train' scenario and the 'ipod' scenario.

1) Immediacy: Being willing to watch a human being die in front of you is tremendously different psychologically from simply being intellectually aware of the fact that someone is dying a continent away. That's why soldiers get PTSD and you or I don't.

2) Urgency: Action, or lack thereof, in the case of the 'train'/'box' scenario will result in immediate death of the bystander, which is not the case in the 'ipod' scenario.

3) Relevancy: In the 'train'/'box' scenario, you and you alone are directly responsible for a single choice which will result in that person's life or death. In the 'ipod' scenario (aka real life), this is not the case; there are multiple other factors, including his family, his community, organizations/NGO's/governments/etc. that play a role in deciding whether the kid will live or die. For that matter, it is entirely possible that even if you don't put in the $200, someone else will. It is also possible that if you put in the $200, the kid will die anyhow, or that if you don't put in the $200, he will still manage to live. This is not a possibility in the 'train'/'box' scenario.

It is normal for a human being to be relatively psychologically unaffected by something which is distant, non-urgent, and which they have a limited impact on.

It is sociopathic for a human being to be psychologically unaffected by something which is immediate, urgent, and which they hold the 100% final decision on.

where were u when we were in our discussion?
hahaha.

and btw, do u always msn ppl with a hi and then just leave?

[Ren Wo Xing]

where were u when we were in our discussion?
hahaha.

and btw, do u always msn ppl with a hi and then just leave?

Whaaat? I said 'Hi' and 'Are you in Australia yet?', but you didn't respond!

Although, it might've been my internet...mine isn't set up yet so I'm stealing it from someone else, and it is sloooow.

[pemberly]

you're way too logical for this forum.

[Lucre]

I don't like RWX's response.

We were nearly there with shaming people for buying iPods. *This* close. Until he had to butt in with some sober analysis.

Now the world will remain infested with shitty Apple products.

well, if nobody buys ipod or any apple product, then apple will have to shut down, with millions of people losing their jobs.

i dont see why buying anything is evil.

[Candide]

Do you always have to quote me and completely miss the humour?

[kidd]

Just did a morality test

http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/morality_play.htm

and learn a new word

parsimony

1) Unusual or excessive frugality; extreme economy or stinginess.
2) Adoption of the simplest assumption in the formulation of a theory or in the interpretation of data, especially in accordance with the rule of Ockham's razor.

[Lucre]

Do you always have to quote me and completely miss the humour?

were you talking to me?

well its easy to note your posts, with your avatar...its very distracting.


im really fond of kitties.

[pemberly]

im really fond of kitties.

i think candide is fond of the same, with a T.

[kay &!*]

Whaaat? I said 'Hi' and 'Are you in Australia yet?', but you didn't respond!

Although, it might've been my internet...mine isn't set up yet so I'm stealing it from someone else, and it is sloooow.

i def responded and u didn't say nething for the rest of the time

lame internet!