Xia Ke Xing translation

[HuangYushi]

Ode to Gallantry (Xia Ke Xing)
by Jin Yong
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Chapter 4 - The Leader of the Clan of Eternal Happiness

http://www.wuxiapedia.com/novels/ind...ntry/chapter_4

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[Anatman]

Heh heh.

Okay, looks like I was wrong. Gouzazhang wouldn't beg Xie Yanke anyway. And Xie Yanke is doing a little more than not safeguarding his "student"- seems like he is doing stuff specifically to kill him...

A lot of stuff to read, though- thanks!

[kidd]

Ah!! HuangYuShi. You r so fast. Can't catch up with u liao. You r only 2 pages behind me.

Must finish page 99 today.

[kidd]

As for the Ren and Du Channels that allowed the connection of the yin and yang energies, he ignored them not because the boy had not attained a suitable level of internal energy, but because learning the techniques associated with them did not fit into his plan.

My understanding of this passage seems to be a bit different from yours when I read it in chinese. Here is the passage in my book.

至于阴阳兼通的任督两脉，却非那少年此时的功力所能练，抑且也与他原意不符，便置之不理

My own translation of this passage is:

As for the Ren and Du Channels that allowed the connection of the yin and yang energies, it is not (something) the boy's current internal energy level can practice. Moveover, they did not fit into his plan. So, he just ignore them.

[crazy_horse]

thanks for another great chapter I couldn't wait for the mystery to be revealed.

[HuangYushi]

Heh heh.
Okay, looks like I was wrong. Gouzazhang wouldn't beg Xie Yanke anyway. And Xie Yanke is doing a little more than not safeguarding his "student"- seems like he is doing stuff specifically to kill him...
A lot of stuff to read, though- thanks!

Actually, I don't think that you are entirely wrong. Gouzazhong was afraid of making requests because of his previous experience with his mother. But he did not tell Xie Yanke about it. As readers, we have the privilege of knowing what happened, but since he did not explain to Xie Yanke the full reasons behind his refusal to beg, Xie Yanke had no way of "changing" the situation to his favour. If Xie Yanke knew, there might be still a slight chance that he would explain the Gouzazhong that he is not his mother and therefore, will not hit him for asking.

Just rambling...

[HuangYushi]

Ah!! HuangYuShi. You r so fast. Can't catch up with u liao. You r only 2 pages behind me. Must finish page 99 today.

It was Merdeka Day, so I had a bit more time to sit down and type until my eyeballs were about to fall out! Don't worry, I probably won't catch up with you until there's another holiday. My brother is getting married in like 3 weeks, so there's a lot to do in the run-up. Relatives will start descending upon us next week, so I won't have that much time to come up with long long updates. Plus, Chapter 4 is even longer than Chapter 3!

My understanding of this passage seems to be a bit different from yours when I read it in chinese. Here is the passage in my book.

至于阴阳兼通的任督两脉，却非那少年此时的功力所能练，抑且也与他原意不符，便置之不理

My own translation of this passage is:
As for the Ren and Du Channels that allowed the connection of the yin and yang energies, it is not (something) the boy's current internal energy level can practice. Moveover, they did not fit into his plan. So, he just ignore them.

You have a good point. I'll take a look at the passage again and come up with something that reflects its meaning/essence more accurately. Thanks!

PS: You're getting very good at reading Chinese! Keep it up!
I've got a new "project" for you, if you are interested. Check your PM!

[HuangYushi]

thanks for another great chapter I couldn't wait for the mystery to be revealed.

You're welcome! Do you want to guess what the mystery is?

Of course, people who have read the book (or who know of the story through any other way) can't play; or there would be plenty of unwanted spoilers around here!

[SevenFortunes]

[We have some matters that require an audience with the leader of our clan, so we would like to trouble you, Mr Xie, with the task of presenting us to him."

Xie Yanke was puzzled. "Who is your clan-leader?" he asked. "I seldom set foot in the realm of the rivers and lakes, so I am quite ignorant and ill-informed. Do pardon my lack of manners, but since I do not know the great name of your leader, how am I supposed to present you to him?"

As soon as these words came out of his mouth, the nine visitors became indignant and displeased.

TO BE CONTINUED...

Huh? I must have missed something here, why would anyone need presentation to one's own clan leader by an outsider. This is too weird for words. At least I assume that the clan leader is not Gouzazhong, or is he?

[kyss of the sword]

the wuxiapedia site said Gouzazhong becomes the leader of the clan of happniess, he's a scarifial goat for the punishment and rewards sommons of the isle of hero's, when a leader is invited, they'll send him to save their own necks.

[Han Solo]

Just finished reading through this thread for the first time in years since SPT found the black steel symbol in chapter one.

First and foremost, congrats to Ian Liew. Second among the translators to have a kid that i know of.

Second, Thanks heaps HuangYushi for translating chapter 2 and 3.

Chapter 3 must be the most heartwarming chapter i had ever read from Jin Yong.

Han Solo

[HuangYushi]

Huh? I must have missed something here, why would anyone need presentation to one's own clan leader by an outsider. This is too weird for words. At least I assume that the clan leader is not Gouzazhong, or is he?

It is weird, all right! And it will get even weirder as Chapter 4 progresses...

As for whether the clan leader is Gouzazhong or not, someone has already answered that question.

So now, the biggest mystery is: HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
Throw in your guess, but as usual, those who have read the story or know of it from other sources (any sources) cannot play!
You might just receive a surprise update in your mailbox!

[HuangYushi]

Just finished reading through this thread for the first time in years since SPT found the black steel symbol in chapter one.
First and foremost, congrats to Ian Liew. Second among the translators to have a kid that i know of.
Second, Thanks heaps HuangYushi for translating chapter 2 and 3.
Chapter 3 must be the most heartwarming chapter i had ever read from Jin Yong.
Han Solo

Hi Han, it's good to hear from you again since the Hokkien words thread disappeared with the Great Crash! How're things going with you? Still very busy? I'm glad you enjoyed Chap 3. Yeah, it's pretty special to me too.

HYS

[SevenFortunes]

It is weird, all right! And it will get even weirder as Chapter 4 progresses...

As for whether the clan leader is Gouzazhong or not, someone has already answered that question.

So now, the biggest mystery is: HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
Throw in your guess, but as usual, those who have read the story or know of it from other sources (any sources) cannot play!
You might just receive a surprise update in your mailbox!

Hmm, when I originally wondered if Gouzazhong was clan leader I thought it might be because his unknown father or mother was former clan leader and passed away and then the rest of the clan went looking for him. And of course 3 of the members have seen Gouzazhong before and suspected he was with XY.

But since it seems they want to set him up as a sacrificial goat the story must be different. Maybe when they went looking for a victim one of the 3 attackers remembered the incident and their suspicion about the observer. That would make for not only a good sacrificial goat but also a way to get XY involved. As everyone knows where XY can be found it would be easy to check the nearby villages for news and find out that Gouzazhong was still with XY.

Don't think they had the opportunity to contact Goughazong as normally they would not be able to reach the peak without XY knowing and in the villages he alwasy was with XY so Gougazhong must be unaware of all this.

That's my best guess so far. With this trouble starting I sure hope Gouzazhong has figured out the secret of those statues and therefore has a far more superiour knowledge of martial arts than anyone suspects. Don't see how he can survive the plotting and conspiracies otherwise (except maybe best defense: pure blind luck ).

[HuangYushi]

Hmm, when I originally wondered if Gouzazhong was clan leader I thought it might be because his unknown father or mother was former clan leader and passed away and then the rest of the clan went looking for him. And of course 3 of the members have seen Gouzazhong before and suspected he was with XY.

Ah! But somebody DID pass away in the Clan of Eternal Happiness and left the position of leadership open ...

The plot thickens!

PS: For your very well-thought out guess, you have won yourself a surprise update in your mailbox. I'm PM the next instalment to you when I'm done with it! Congrats! -- HYS

[crazy_horse]

the wuxiapedia site said Gouzazhong becomes the leader of the clan of happniess, he's a scarifial goat for the punishment and rewards sommons of the isle of hero's, when a leader is invited, they'll send him to save their own necks.

I haven't read this novel before, but I believe that the clan didn't choose the boy for scapegoating purpose. I mean the main purpose of the clan is to oppose the isle of heroes, right? So why would they be afraid of the isle?

[kidd]

I haven't read this novel before, but I believe that the clan didn't choose the boy for scapegoating purpose. I mean the main purpose of the clan is to oppose the isle of heroes, right? So why would they be afraid of the isle?

Yes. GouZhaZhong was meant to be the clan's sacrificial goat. But why him? Read further.

[SevenFortunes]

PS: For your very well-thought out guess, you have won yourself a surprise update in your mailbox. I'm PM the next instalment to you when I'm done with it! Congrats! -- HYS

Ooooh

Now THAT is a nice motivator, thanks!

[HuangYushi]

I haven't read this novel before, but I believe that the clan didn't choose the boy for scapegoating purpose. I mean the main purpose of the clan is to oppose the isle of heroes, right? So why would they be afraid of the isle?

Yes. GouZhaZhong was meant to be the clan's sacrificial goat. But why him? Read further.

Things are actually less simple and more sinister than this. As SevenFortunes said, this story is pretty weird ... and with twists and turns that are rather uncharacteristic of Jin Yong, it will get weirder.

If you (meaning crazy_horse, not kidd) want to hazard a guess and receive the next update via PM before it is posted here, go ahead! I still have a few more "special update PMs" to give out!

Sorry, kidd. You don't qualify to play because you've seen the serialised adaptation of the novel.

[kidd]

Sorry, kidd. You don't qualify to play because you've seen the serialised adaptation of the novel.

I'm not playing. Just giving out a hint, not vying for your prize. And it's just a teeny-tiny hint only mah. Didn't actually spoil anything. Still a lot of suspense left..
You did this yourself too. I'm just following your footsteps.