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    [quote=Trien Chieu;940658]I only speak the truth and truth often doesn't sound good. I don't want to be politically correct and telling lie here in the internet. Of course I don't talk like this in real life.

    i think you might be confused between the terms 'truth' and 'honesty'. being honest with your opinions does not necessary make your opinions the truth.

    Modern civilization mostly telling people what they like to hear but hardly teach people to be practical. How often you hear politicians talk about freedom and how great it is? all the times isn't it? How often do you hear them talk about freedom comes with responsibility and action has consequences? Very seldom right??

    that depends on what you want to hear. A person who chose to block his ears on the truth, only get to hear lies. If you hadn't been hearing the truth, do reflect on how to unblock your ears.

    I often hear people complain about credit card debt and the high interest that cost them like $200-$400 every month.

    you're probably mixing with the wrong company, if you don't like to hear such complaints. i'd never heard them in the company i hang out with.

    They keep blaming credit card companies being blood sucker but you know what, it's their own fault. It's their own actions that put them at where they are. Family and friend keep telling me that I should go back to VietNam for holidays as I haven't going back since I move to Canada. But you know what, I refuse to go not because I don't have the money but I rather have the money in the bank than spend it. It's being practical. I don't live for the moment.

    the bank would definitely use your money wisely.....they need funds to lend your friends, who needed the credit, and then they suck them back with interests. $200-400 really isn't a big sum anyway; i guess they can't be that heavily debted with such an interest rate.

    Guo Xiang, life is about survival not politically correct. Today might be sunny, tomorrow might be raining and the next day might have a big hurricane like Katrina. I am the only one I have, if I don't care about myself, who will?

    God will. He always does. Now that, is the truth.

    It won't be sunny everyday for me in the future, so if I don't plan ahead when the rain comes I will be in trouble and when a big hurricane comes I will be doom.

    I think there are times where even all the preparation could not evade an onset disaster. when your plans are thwarted, do you blame yourself for not trying harder? or whine?

    People will bash me for being selfish, but I work hard for what I have, I spend my hard earn dollars wisely, and keep the leftover for rainy/hurricane days. I do not do anything illegal. They can bash me all they want and I don't feel bad about it because I don't do anything wrong. I live the life to make me happy and make sure I am safe. I don't care about what other people think about me, I don't need their approval for anything. Sorry for so much politically incorrect, but trust me, it's handy for survival.

    For those people who 'bashed' you, you should be thankful you have friends who still care enough about you to give you opinions. I guess despite your 'self-declared' selfishness....you still have people who cared. Be thankful of that. =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post
    the bank would definitely use your money wisely.....they need funds to lend your friends, who needed the credit, and then they suck them back with interests. $200-400 really isn't a big sum anyway; i guess they can't be that heavily debted with such an interest rate.
    $200-$400/month just for interest alone on credit cards is indeed a lot. Do your calculation. That is more than enough to cover my car insurance and phone bill. Something I would never do, I refuse to give my hard earn money to the credit card companies. Credit cards could be a good thing if you are being responsible.

    God will. He always does. Now that, is the truth.
    I am an atheist so please don't bring religions into this.

    I think there are times where even all the preparation could not evade an onset disaster. when your plans are thwarted, do you blame yourself for not trying harder? or whine?
    I am doing what I can, I don't blame others for my failure.

    For those people who 'bashed' you, you should be thankful you have friends who still care enough about you to give you opinions. I guess despite your 'self-declared' selfishness....you still have people who cared. Be thankful of that. =)
    I don't consider myself as "SELFISH" as I don't do anything wrong. I, sometimes, donate when natural disasters occur and to the handicapped. I refuse to donate to people with no disability, because they can work. Only people from the internet bash me for being selfish, not people in real life. As for myself, I don't make much money but don't spend much either. I enjoy quiet and simple life.
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    i think this is pretty true. i've always tried to do the right thing, and i give to charity, as well as do some volunteer work when i can. And i must say, i've been very lucky in life. i've definitely gained more than i've given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    $200-$400/month just for interest alone on credit cards is indeed a lot. Do your calculation. That is more than enough to cover my car insurance and phone bill. Something I would never do, I refuse to give my hard earn money to the credit card companies. Credit cards could be a good thing if you are being responsible.

    alot or a little is a relative term. never mind that; if its alot to you, then its alot to you. i apologize for sounding like a meanie. besides, those 'credit card' companies also employ alot of people, and was the basis of survival for many working adults, that has mouths to feed at home. but i get the picture...as long as you're leading a good life, the welfare of the rest of the mankind does not matter.

    I am an atheist so please don't bring religions into this.

    i am a christian so i bring Christ into everywhere i go. im not particularly sorry if you're intolerant of Him.

    I am doing what I can, I don't blame others for my failure.

    I think i asked 'do you blame yourself'. im not sure if i need to ask what you think of others, i thought the answer could have been easily inferred.

    I don't consider myself as "SELFISH" as I don't do anything wrong. I, sometimes, donate when natural disasters occur and to the handicapped. I refuse to donate to people with no disability, because they can work. Only people from the internet bash me for being selfish, not people in real life. As for myself, I don't make much money but don't spend much either. I enjoy quiet and simple life.
    i think its probably because you reveal more of yourself online, than in real life. likewise, people tend to be less restrictive, and willing to be more honest than they would in reallife, because it is easier to speak up their minds and not worry about 'consequences'. as such, you might found yourself having a more realistic feedback online; do think about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucre View Post

    alot or a little is a relative term. never mind that; if its alot to you, then its alot to you. i apologize for sounding like a meanie
    $200-$400 itself is not much, but handing that hard earn money to credit card companies on a monthy basis just for the interest is a big waste. It's like giving hard earn money to a rich guy.

    besides, those 'credit card' companies also employ alot of people, and was the basis of survival for many working adults, that has mouths to feed at home.
    I don't agree with this logic. This is like "it's good to gamble and losing money to the casinos because that how they make money. Without support from gamblers, they can't survive. They hire many working adults, that has mouths to feed at home". For me they are like blood suckers that people should avoid them. As for credit card companies, they can survive on all the fees they charge the store owner when you make a purchase

    but i get the picture...as long as you're leading a good life, the welfare of the rest of the mankind does not matter.
    No, you missed my points. I want others live a good life as well that is why I advocate personal responsibilty. Freedom comes with reponsibilities and actions have consequences. Too bad that too many people just live for the moment and leading to deadly consequences. Here in Canada, many immigrants deal drug to support their gambling habit and ended up dead, in jail and deportation for repeated offenders. Afterward, they call their family and cry about how harsh life over there. To bad so sad for them.

    I think i asked 'do you blame yourself'. im not sure if i need to ask what you think of others, i thought the answer could have been easily inferred.
    No, I don't blame myself as I already do the best I could.

    i think its probably because you reveal more of yourself online, than in real life. likewise, people tend to be less restrictive, and willing to be more honest than they would in reallife, because it is easier to speak up their minds and not worry about 'consequences'. as such, you might found yourself having a more realistic feedback online; do think about this.
    Depending on who I am talking to. During the semester, I tutor many black students. I had conversation with their parents about life in general. They told me that they haven't buy a single CD/DVD of Michael Jackson because they don't support people who are addicted to plastic surgery and drugs. We agreed on lot of social issues. Just like me, they love to watch "The First 48" from A&E as well and they also think those criminals deserve the maximum possible. They have zero compassion for them whether they are black/white/latino/asian. They do not support institution such as NAACP and people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They are hard working upper middle class and very conservative.
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    trien chieu,

    thank you for answering my questions. have a blessed week ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    'The more you give the more you receive'.

    I recently heard my mom relate to me an article she read that says the more one gives (to charity) the more one will receive. That's the law of the universe.

    Base on your personal experience, how true is this saying to you?
    This is based on the law of Giving and Receiving, one of Hermetic Laws. It is important to know that it works when one gives earnestly without expecting returns, like giving just for the joy of giving. When done correctly, don't be surprised if you get much more back then you'd given, and you don't necessary receive back from the person you gave to. A lot of time things just come to you from perfect strangers!

    Don't forget the 2nd part of this Law. Receiving is just as important as giving so when someone give you something, and whether if you want/need it or not, just accept what is given to you.

    There are 7 Laws that I live by and none of them is man-made laws
    What you seek is seeking you. Believing is Seeing. Anything is possible if only if you could believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiWitt View Post
    This is based on the law of Giving and Receiving, one of Hermetic Laws. It is important to know that it works when one gives earnestly without expecting returns, like giving just for the joy of giving. When done correctly, don't be surprised if you get much more back then you'd given, and you don't necessary receive back from the person you gave to. A lot of time things just come to you from perfect strangers!

    Don't forget the 2nd part of this Law. Receiving is just as important as giving so when someone give you something, and whether if you want/need it or not, just accept what is given to you.

    There are 7 Laws that I live by and none of them is man-made laws
    But, there are people who use this law to reprimand others who just want to receive, saying that the person is depriving the other from the experience of receiving. This was a reply someone in facebook gave to a question on why all distant/energy healer charges money and it is all about money?

    It's a valid question because unlike buying an apple where you definitely will get an apple when you pay and you can see your apple, distant healing is not. I doubt the distant healer will return the money if that person is not healed. The healer will just say it's the problem of the patient who deep down doesn't want to be healed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    But, there are people who use this law to reprimand others who just want to receive, saying that the person is depriving the other from the experience of receiving. This was a reply someone in facebook gave to a question on why all distant/energy healer charges money and it is all about money?

    It's a valid question because unlike buying an apple where you definitely will get an apple when you pay and you can see your apple, distant healing is not. I doubt the distant healer will return the money if that person is not healed. The healer will just say it's the problem of the patient who deep down doesn't want to be healed.

    If someone were to use this law just for the sake of receiving back, then it will not work. You have to give without expectations otherwise you'll just set yourself up for disappointments.

    I think that person from FB totally misunderstood this law or simply doesn't get it yet. I'll try to make this as simple as I can.

    When A gives to B w/o expectations: A will receive, but not necessarily receiving back from B. It could be from B,C,D or E. And receiving back is not in an instant, it could be from anytime in the future.

    It's like the saying 'what comes around, goes around'. if you do something good for somebody, someone else will do something good for you. Simple!
    What you seek is seeking you. Believing is Seeing. Anything is possible if only if you could believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiWitt View Post
    If someone were to use this law just for the sake of receiving back, then it will not work. You have to give without expectations otherwise you'll just set yourself up for disappointments.

    I think that person from FB totally misunderstood this law or simply doesn't get it yet. I'll try to make this as simple as I can.

    When A gives to B w/o expectations: A will receive, but not necessarily receiving back from B. It could be from B,C,D or E. And receiving back is not in an instant, it could be from anytime in the future.

    It's like the saying 'what comes around, goes around'. if you do something good for somebody, someone else will do something good for you. Simple!
    actually, sometimes even if you expect it, you still get it back..the problem is, far too many people focus on 'material' gains; they have forgotten that there are more gains that is beyond the dollars and cents; so they failed to see their gains.

    It's more of a case of, you didn't know you received treasures becos you're blind to them.
    o wilku mowa...♪

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