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    Link to article & picture of the urinal @

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1..._shaped_urinal

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    "The designer defends the urinals as sensual art"

    Does anyone find such urinals as sensual art or as offensive & degrading to women or consider them to be just jokes?

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    I don't find this urinal sensual or degrading. I just find it funny. Maybe it's the cartoonish look of the design. I guess I can consider this a joke.

    I understand though why some groups are concerned. They may feel that it fosters disrespect to women and might give wrong ideas to the men. But then, I don't think any man who want to connect to a special person would want to pee into that special person's mouth unless he's into this kind of festish in the first place. Anyway, the woman can always refuse.

    This case reminds me of the case of 'the Jesus statue with an unusual shape abdomen'. It depends on how one sees it. The designer of this urinal is a woman and she certainly did not see anything wrong in it.
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    HaHa! That urinals so funny! Why are women offended by it? It's not our mouth and neither are we peeing into it...LoL thank goodness. It can be argued that the design is interpretative...not all of us are enticed by a woman's lipsticked mouth. Men are peeing into it after all, what if he's batting for the other team? If that's how you roll, that's what you may see.

    Sensual art? That designer should have at least come up with a real defense for it... instead of something that sounds so silly and half a$$ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByTmE View Post
    HaHa! That urinals so funny! Why are women offended by it? It's not our mouth and neither are we peeing into it...LoL thank goodness. It can be argued that the design is interpretative...not all of us are enticed by a woman's lipsticked mouth. Men are peeing into it after all, what if he's batting for the other team? If that's how you roll, that's what you may see.

    Sensual art? That designer should have at least come up with a real defense for it... instead of something that sounds so silly and half a$$ed.
    The guys must have thought 'OMG! We can't even be safe from these women's groups in our own toilet!'

    Sometimes, these kind of groups does act like a wet blanket with no sense of humour. But I guess it's hard to have a sense of humour working in 'The Woman Abuse Working Group'. I bet they are meeting abused women all the time.
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    I find it degrading and sick because it reinforces the (negative) ideas of what to do to a woman, and how you should view a woman.

    I'm not sure about the humour part. Many damaging materials in this world are often hidden within seemingly innocuous words/art. You don't have to be outright insulting to attack someone or something.
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    There are way more serious offenses against women than a freaking toilet. Give me a break.

    Now, if the toilet was made in the shape of a male mouth or a unisex mouth, I doubt there'd be this much "outcry." Also really, it's silly to just assume the mouth is that of a woman - from the pictures of it, it could just as easily be that of a transvestite man or a drag queen, in which case the joke is definitely on the men using the urinal. Given the original artist didn't even see the connection of the "peeing in a woman's mouth," I have a feeling the mouth was not designed to specifically be that of a female. If it was meant to be a woman, the artist would have to be really thick not to see this simple connection (I'm going to try to give her the benefit of the doubt here).

    But still I wouldn't call this art (mostly because I can't really see anything toilet-related as art ... sorry Duchamp), it's just very basic toilet humour. Unless if it is interpreted as "conceptual art," where the mouth is alluding to perhaps fetishism or oral sex. But with most modern art, you can spin some sort of silly story. This just reminds me of a crappier version of Georgia O'Keefe.
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    I think whoever did this have very poor taste in humour.
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    i'm also not offended by this. i just think it's ugly, and not art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guo Xiang View Post
    I find it degrading and sick because it reinforces the (negative) ideas of what to do to a woman, and how you should view a woman.

    I'm not sure about the humour part. Many damaging materials in this world are often hidden within seemingly innocuous words/art. You don't have to be outright insulting to attack someone or something.

    This is what's wrong with society. It's because people like you find this sort of thing degrading and sick. This urinal does not reinforce ideas of what to do to a woman unless that person is sick in his/her mind to begin with. I don't see a woman's mouth there. I see an inanimate object shaped like a woman's mouth. Big difference. You should really watch Penn and Teller's BS on the episode on "War on Porn".

    Look at the Neitherlands. They have a very low crime rate (sex related), yet are quite open sexually. This sort of urinal would be more than welcome there. Then again, look at the States (or the Vatican). Lots of sex offenders and this sort of "art" is nowhere to be seen. Anyway, correlation does not equal causation.
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