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    Chinese Title: 来不及说我爱你 (based on the book 来不及说我爱你, originally published 碧甃沉)
    English Title: Too Late to Say I Love You
    Production Company: 北京光彩世纪文化艺术有限公司
    Producer: 彭益 徐佳宁
    Director: Zeng Li Zhen 曾丽珍
    Broadcast Date: August 30, 2010

    Actors
    Wallace Chung as Mu Rong Feng
    Li Xiao Ran as Yin Jing Wan
    Tan Kai as Xu Jian Zhang
    Qi Fang as Cheng Xin Zhi
    Sun Wei as Cheng Xin Zhi
    Kou Zhen Hai as Jin Chu Fan (Jing Wan's father)
    Gui Ya Lei as Mrs Xu (Xu Jian Zhang's grandmother)
    钟汉良 饰 慕容沣
    李小冉 饰 尹静琬
    谭 凯 饰 许建彰
    齐 芳 饰 程谨之  
    孙 玮 饰 程信之  
    寇振海 饰 尹老爷
    归亚蕾 饰 许老太太

    Synopsis

    乾平女子尹静琬掩护一名陌生的年轻男子躲过了一场严密的搜查,后来才意外的发现,这名男子竟然是承军主帅慕 容沣。静琬回到家中,和恋人许建璋平静快乐的恋爱着,但是不久,却传来了建璋在承军地界被捕入狱的噩耗。静 琬只身前往承州,恳求慕容沣释放建璋
      承州。当静琬面对慕容沣说出了此行的请求时,却遭到了他断然的拒绝。但是静琬的出现,却令慕容沣心生一 计 在静琬的协助下,慕容沣平定了一场叛乱,然而,静琬也因此在乱枪中受伤 慕容沣在和静琬的朝夕相处中爱上了静琬,可是静琬却太害怕被这黑暗而甜蜜的力量吞没了,她狠下心来说,她并 不爱他。 静琬回到了自己的生活中,和建璋的婚期临近了。成婚当日,传来了承军战事节节失利,承州岌岌可危的消息。当 建璋前来迎亲的时候,尹家的新娘却突然消失了。

    I tried to translate this, then failed. Sorry for anyone who can't read chinese.

    Sina site: http://ent.sina.com.cn/f/v/laibjsan/index.shtml
    Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuZlWTvLMM

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    I'm VERY excited about this drama. It's based on one of my favourite books, 碧甃沉, and portrayed by my favourite actor, Wallace Chung.

    If you can read chinese, this is the site to read the book: http://www.jjwxc.net/onebook.php?novelid=31816

    This is a FANTASTIC series, with great actors, beautiful costumes and settings and above all, a tragic love story. Definitely worth watching, even if you're not a particular fan of stories set in Min Guo.


    Zhong Han Liang as MU RONG FENG (also known as MU RONG PEI LIN or SI SHAO)









    Li Xiao Ran as YIN JING WAN





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    I'll definitely buy this DVD when it comes out. I love series and movies set in min guo. There's something about that era which evokes so much emotion, growth and sadness because it's the first time that the Han Chinese were truly discovering their identity after being under Manchu rule for 300 years, yet also a time of political upheaval with the coming Japanese invasion and civil war. China was so torn during this era. Think The Soong Sisters, Revolution, Ba Jin! One of my favourite recent HK series is Pretty Maid (script written by Mainland's brilliant Yu Zheng) also set in min guo. And I'm awaiting Fog of Dragons, another upcoming min guo series with Yuan Hong as the lead.
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    Qi Fang as CHENG JIN ZHI



    Tan Kai as XU JIAN ZHANG



    Sun Wei as CHENG XIN ZHI



    Kou Zhen Hai as JIN CHU FAN (JING WAN'S FATHER)



    Li Xiao Ran as SU YING

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    I like Wallace Chung, but not much of the female lead. What is the plot, sorry I can't read chinese. Please translate for me. Is this series out yet?

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    SYNOPSIS: (credit to Wylane for translation)

    Based on the novel of Fei Wo Si Cun(匪我思存),"Too Late to Say I Love You/Bi Zhou Chen(《来不及说我爱你/碧甃沉》)".
    Yin Jingwan saved a young man who was escaping from a rivaling warlord manhunt on a train. When she returned home, her parents arranged a marriage for her to childhood friend, but her fiancee was put into prison in Chengzhou for smuggling fire arms and illegal western drugs. Jingwan decided to go to Chengzhou to rescue her fiancee. But she did not know, this trip would completely change her fate.












    Official MTV of the Theme Song:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFP6IV9XAFc

    Fanmade MV:
    http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/UBJWPQyyuyc/

    Trailer with English Subs:
    Part 1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpvB...eature=related
    Part 2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVCHB-vIvbM


    Episode 1 with English Subtitles:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qJWWkZs7qc


    I love this series! Just finished watching it a week ago and can't help myself but rewatch it again!! hahaha...i introduced it to my mom and she got HOOKED and finished all 36 episodes in 4 work days! Love wallace chung and li xiao ran in this series.. Love their acting...they delivered their lines convincingly despite some corniness of the script....just like what someone said previously, wish his character was more cunning and ruthless and gave those bad guys a good slap in the face...hahahahha...but he's also much more likable in this series versus the original novel (i didn't read the original novel but read comments/criticisms). At least I like the ending of the series much more than the novel.
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    Thanks Li YuanZhi for starting this thread. And everyone watching and discussing this. This is a really great adaptation.

    The leads are amazingly natural in their portrayal. Qi Fang is sooooo suave as Cheng Jinzhi. Totally charismatic woman!

    Luv all the posted pics!

    By the way, does anyone find the show too fast? I mean, there seemed to be a lot of cut-out moments. I wish it's slower when Wallace and Li Xiao Ran are on.
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    Thanks JoleCole for posting all those images! I'm glad you enjoyed the series.

    I agree with Nef that the pacing is a little too fast in some places. I think it's because they cut out quite a few scenes when broadcasting. I'm hoping that the DVD version will have the full version, because I was really looking forwards to a couple of the scenes they deleted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiYuanZhi View Post
    Thanks JoleCole for posting all those images! I'm glad you enjoyed the series.

    I agree with Nef that the pacing is a little too fast in some places. I think it's because they cut out quite a few scenes when broadcasting. I'm hoping that the DVD version will have the full version, because I was really looking forwards to a couple of the scenes they deleted!
    I totally agree! I hope it'd be an extended version with the DVD and hopefully director's cut. I like scenes where Peilin was impressed with Jingwan's subtle intelligence and also when they became sworn brother and sister, Peilin drank the wine as if it's poison. Those are very little things which deepen the premises of love btw them.

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    What are some of your favourite scenes btw Peilin and Jingwan?

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    I like this scene in episode four where Jingwan was telling Peilin what a good time she had had when Lady Xu deliberately let her win in mahjong. Peilin said how he'd have love to listen to all these little daily stories during peaceful times. She said peaceful days would be here soon. He asked,' But where would you be then?'

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    The scene where Peilin boldly pressed down on her hand to 'declare' his feelings when she was holding out a cup of water to him.

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    At the restaurant, he told her she's just like elegant and wonderful like the orchids she'd just described with a few simple phrases.

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    The first scene when they met on the train, she understood what he was saying when he was talking about so many people settled down for an ordinary life because they're scared to do different things and live differently. Something along those lines.
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    Ok im not a fan of period-modern dramas hence seldom watch but happen to see the trailers at youtube, I think the drama is well paced after watching few eps. Seeing so many positive comments, I wanted to finish the drama asap but only have night time after work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertari View Post
    What are some of your favourite scenes btw Peilin and Jingwan?

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    I like this scene in episode four where Jingwan was telling Peilin what a good time she had had when Lady Xu deliberately let her win in mahjong. Peilin said how he'd have love to listen to all these little daily stories during peaceful times. She said peaceful days would be here soon. He asked,' But where would you be then?'

    Two
    The scene where Peilin boldly pressed down on her hand to 'declare' his feelings when she was holding out a cup of water to him.

    Three
    At the restaurant, he told her she's just like elegant and wonderful like the orchids she'd just described with a few simple phrases.

    Four
    The first scene when they met on the train, she understood what he was saying when he was talking about so many people settled down for an ordinary life because they're scared to do different things and live differently. Something along those lines.
    I have quite a few favorite scenes i don't even know where to start...hahahhaa...i'll list a few...they're not in any particular order...

    - ep.26 after Jingwan left Peilin and he went to to the frozen Cheng River at night to reminisce...the music they played with the piba + the lonely/melancholic Peilin + beautiful night landscape make the scene really poignant and i really felt his pain of losing Jingwan

    - ep. 24 Jingwan+Peilin Confrontation...Peilin pointing his gun at Jingwan and Jingwan telling him to shoot her...my gosh...such love and angst...never seen such a scene with soo much force!

    - ep. 23 Jingwan's feigned drunkenness and Peilin's seduction...I thought Jingwan was really cute here and effortlessly seduced Peilin...and he completely fell into her trap...

    - ep. 22 Confrontation/Fight...somehow i just really love to watch this couple argue...they're soo convincing...hahhaa...

    and of course...most of the scenes of my favorite...Su Ying...
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    Ah too many favourite moments. Definitely all the ones that have been mentioned so far.

    Also the scene when Peilin makes his decision and he spends the last day with Jing Wan and they go mountain-climbing. She asks him if he's carried anyone before, and he replies no, you're the first one. And she says, then you have to carry me for a lifetime. This was one of the most memorable scenes in the book and it was translated perfectly into the TV series.
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    that scene was sooo touching and sad...I felt soo bad for Jingwan...seeing her soo happy when she heard Peilin's reply and knowing her fate later on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiYuanZhi View Post
    Ah too many favourite moments. Definitely all the ones that have been mentioned so far.

    Also the scene when Peilin makes his decision and he spends the last day with Jing Wan and they go mountain-climbing. She asks him if he's carried anyone before, and he replies no, you're the first one. And she says, then you have to carry me for a lifetime. This was one of the most memorable scenes in the book and it was translated perfectly into the TV series.
    Totally agreed with you and JoleCole on this scene. Just looking at the pictures make me cry.

    I often feel if Peilin had told Jingwan upfront about his decision and not kept her in the dark, then abandoned her, things might have worked out differently. She's not totally a petty-minded person.



    SPOILERS ALERT
    Just thinking about all those years apart makes me cry. And then he lost his memory. How many years does a person have in his life to undergo all these things?

    Did the show ever show Peilin regain his memory? Someone told me he lost his memory for seven years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertari View Post
    Totally agreed with you and JoleCole on this scene. Just looking at the pictures make me cry.

    I often feel if Peilin had told Jingwan upfront about his decision and not kept her in the dark, then abandoned her, things might have worked out differently. She's not totally a petty-minded person.



    SPOILERS ALERT
    Just thinking about all those years apart makes me cry. And then he lost his memory. How many years does a person have in his life to undergo all these things?

    Did the show ever show Peilin regain his memory? Someone told me he lost his memory for seven years.
    That's an interesting thing you brought up. And again, I'm going to make a reference to the novel (sorry that I keep doing this again). In the novel, Peilin wasn't forced by circumstances to give up Jingwan, as he was in the TV series. In the book, it was ambition that drove him to betray her. He wasn't in any immediate danger, and I feel that Jing wan, or indeed no reasonable person would be able to accept or forgive a betrayal in those circumstances. In the series, Peilin really didn't have much choice did he? If he didn't marry JinZhi, then not only would he lose his territories and his life, but all those innocent people would suffer as well. I completely agree with you in that had he explained the circumstances to Jing Wan, though she would've been obviously devastated, she would be much more understanding of his actions. I think that Jingwan has a big enough heart to realize that there are some things bigger than their love, and that perhaps it was necessary to temporarily sacrifice their relationship for a life and death crisis.

    I know I've said this before, but it both gratifies and annoys me how much they redeemed Peilin in the TV series. I understand why they did it (you can't have a jerk as a male lead, after all.) But whilst it is nice to have a kind character, it really alters the nature of the tragedy of their love. In the novel, Peilin's fate was a result of his own actions, and he has nobody else to blame other than himself (the tragic hero idea where the hero's misfortune is not brought about "by vice and depravity but by some error of judgment"). In the series, their fate is the result of circumstances. Two different kinds of tragedy. I just happen to find the former more tragic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiYuanZhi View Post
    That's an interesting thing you brought up. And again, I'm going to make a reference to the novel (sorry that I keep doing this again). In the novel, Peilin wasn't forced by circumstances to give up Jingwan, as he was in the TV series. In the book, it was ambition that drove him to betray her. He wasn't in any immediate danger, and I feel that Jing wan, or indeed no reasonable person would be able to accept or forgive a betrayal in those circumstances. In the series, Peilin really didn't have much choice did he? If he didn't marry JinZhi, then not only would he lose his territories and his life, but all those innocent people would suffer as well. I completely agree with you in that had he explained the circumstances to Jing Wan, though she would've been obviously devastated, she would be much more understanding of his actions. I think that Jingwan has a big enough heart to realize that there are some things bigger than their love, and that perhaps it was necessary to temporarily sacrifice their relationship for a life and death crisis.

    I know I've said this before, but it both gratifies and annoys me how much they redeemed Peilin in the TV series. I understand why they did it (you can't have a jerk as a male lead, after all.) But whilst it is nice to have a kind character, it really alters the nature of the tragedy of their love. In the novel, Peilin's fate was a result of his own actions, and he has nobody else to blame other than himself (the tragic hero idea where the hero's misfortune is not brought about "by vice and depravity but by some error of judgment"). In the series, their fate is the result of circumstances. Two different kinds of tragedy. I just happen to find the former more tragic.
    There were times where I could not understand Jingwan's decision in leaving Murong Feng. I mean in those times, it's quite common for powerful people to have mistresses, but after watching parts of the series, I totally support Jingwan's decision to leave him. Jingwan is simply too good to be just his paramour. Dignity is also part of love and shouldn't be sacrificed. I also agree with her that if she lived under a mistress's name, her children would have an illegitimate status even if Peilin would legitimized them.

    I actually like how much they humanized Peilin's character. He has compassion and empathy in his ruling and he's still brilliant when it comes to millitary affairs. He's just not ruthless enough to crush the oppostion totally and turning into a lovelorn person, he wasn't as sharp or lethal as prior to meeting Jingwan. From a pragmatic view, such a 'weak' hero might be annoying, but it was still wonderful to see someone ambitious soften due to effects of love, to let depths of love overcome him.

    I like his sidekick Shen Jiaping a lot too. He's always very loyal, helping things out.

    Kudos to the outrageuos Su Ying. Irritating but lovely pro. I love how she annoys the hell out of Jinzhi. Lovely retribution.

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    He regain his memory after 7 years. They met again after 7 years. I love the ending.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertari View Post
    Totally agreed with you and JoleCole on this scene. Just looking at the pictures make me cry.

    I often feel if Peilin had told Jingwan upfront about his decision and not kept her in the dark, then abandoned her, things might have worked out differently. She's not totally a petty-minded person.



    SPOILERS ALERT
    Just thinking about all those years apart makes me cry. And then he lost his memory. How many years does a person have in his life to undergo all these things?

    Did the show ever show Peilin regain his memory? Someone told me he lost his memory for seven years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertari View Post
    There were times where I could not understand Jingwan's decision in leaving Murong Feng. I mean in those times, it's quite common for powerful people to have mistresses, but after watching parts of the series, I totally support Jingwan's decision to leave him. Jingwan is simply too good to be just his paramour. Dignity is also part of love and shouldn't be sacrificed. I also agree with her that if she lived under a mistress's name, her children would have an illegitimate status even if Peilin would legitimized them.
    I've always loved Jing wan's character for her courage, for her view of love and for her sense of self-respect. Any weaker girl would have thrown a fit, but then ultimately succumbed and accepted MRF's arrangement. But for Jing Wan, it was very much: we can either rightfully be together, or not be together at all, because even though I love you, I have my own honour and dignity to uphold. The only thing that irked me a little was that this position was warranted in the novel, but not in the TV series, given then circumstances.

    Random sidenote: how cute was that scene when Jingwan walked into the bedroom and found Peilin rocking sideways on the bed, waiting for her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiYuanZhi View Post
    I've always loved Jing wan's character for her courage, for her view of love and for her sense of self-respect. Any weaker girl would have thrown a fit, but then ultimately succumbed and accepted MRF's arrangement. But for Jing Wan, it was very much: we can either rightfully be together, or not be together at all, because even though I love you, I have my own honour and dignity to uphold. The only thing that irked me a little was that this position was warranted in the novel, but not in the TV series, given then circumstances.
    My exact sentiments. But wasn't this position also warranted in the TV series? I felt although the plot was changed a little, her stand and reason was very much the same. Maybe because I didn't watch the full sequence, might have missed some points. I like the part where she became angry and ran away when MRF promised her they have a lifetime to do the things he promised her to do. Then she retorted that hasn't he promised her enough and she doesn't believe in his promises anymore. Totally agreed with what she said although I felt sorry for MRF - he did what he had to to keep her.

    Random sidenote: how cute was that scene when Jingwan walked into the bedroom and found Peilin rocking sideways on the bed, waiting for her?
    I probably missed that scene coz I wanted to save the best for view on DVD. I like it when Jingwan felt cute, eg the scene JoleCole mentioned when she was seducing MRF so she can get away. She's soooo cute when pretending to be drunk and eating her noodles, while MRF was cuddling her cheek. Found that totally funny as well. Only Jingwan would come up with such a plot. I mean at that point she was already disappointed in MRF, but to escape, she actually suppressed her dignity and seduced her 'ex-husband'. Haha, love her guts and mind.

    I also like the scene when she's persuading the captured general to live on, she confessed she totally believe in her husband. Then after their camp got bombed, she ran to him and said she would not leave. All the soldiers gave her a look of admiration and MRF went on to save the little soldier.........love this sequence.

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