Psychics

[kay &!*]

do you guys believe in psychics? no? yes? if so, do you follow western psychics or asians? both?

okay, so long story short. idk how it came about but had an idea of getting a reading online by one of the psychics on the site.
i do believe in psychics but have always followed the asian ones.. so i had my doubts and was still pretty skeptical with these western psychics.
the site btw, if you're curious: psychicaccess.com
one of the reasons why i was reallllllly doubtful was because i wasn't sure if it was a scam or not... but the site is legit. sign up and you get 6 free min.. you choose who and you can either call/vid chat (you can see them but they can't see you).

anyways!
so yes, i was skeptical but had a reading nonetheless.. i asked about relationships and career. the psychic i chose started saying " i feel like you're in the medical field ".
at that point, i'm like what? NO WAY! i'm doing PR. PR. PR.
so i was like okay, this is bullshit.. i don't believe it.
but then, lo and behold, i plan to work in the health care profession now :P
i know it's still pretty far-fetched and i can change my mind anytime again but seriously, i feel really certain about this path and am already making plans/arrangements accordingly.
i just find it surprising because i didn't expect it. i was so sure and really held my ground on "okay, this woman has no idea what she's talking about" to a whole 180. maybe it was a good guess, idk, but i had another reading by another psychic on there.. this time, about romance. what he said about my love life was pretty close to what the first psychic described it.. this must mean something, right?

anyways, so point is, i went from being a bit skeptical and doubtful to someone who believes in it through experiences with the readings. i'll still always have my guards up though.. for instance, what they predicted about my love life sounds REALLY good haha. and as much as i'd like to fully believe in them and believe it will happen, i have to be prepared for the disappointment if it didn't go exactly as it sounded. don't wana have too high hopes and jinx it!

i don't know, could be all fake and false hope but having diff. psychics tell the same thing and just that career reading kinda tells me that maybe these people are 'gifted'..

&& oh not to mention, the first psychic reading i had, i used a different username. last night, i logged into my other username and went into her same chatroom (there are individual chatrooms where you can chat with the reader to get to know them). she said i had a reading with her before and she was able to recall what time of day/who else was in the chatroom with me! her explanation? "she could feel and recognize my familiar energy". i was because i didn't even mention anything about having a reading with her before.

one thing i did notice was, if you're going to do a reading, make sure you are relaxed. i've noticed my readings from diff. readers have been very similar to one another when i am.. i once had a reading while i was hella stressed/anxious and that came out a lil off from the rest.

so do you guys have any experiences? some of my friends refuse to do it.
and if you do end up trying the site out, lmk how that goes in terms of accuracy and such

ok, excuse the longgg *** post and prob about 100 mistakes. i'm very sleepy atm, gnite
fix it tmr or something.

[ByTmE]

I've never had an experience with internet psychics. I've only been to readings with Asian ones and back in the homeland.

Hm, I'm not sure about psychics since I only believe in monks and masters. We don't pay a "fee" but we do offer a donation to our liking. Of course, some people will say that this can be likened to a fee. I do believe that there are people with special knowings. From the time I was in my late teens, a psychic and a monk, both told me that at 24/25 I'd face a serious issue that may cost me my life and that I'd be betrayed by a friend and could be raped. They told me this numerous times. I got fed up and decided to move to another country. Lo and behold, it turned out to be true. I was lucky because apparently I'm a good daughter and good person, so I was able to save myself from their bad intentions. Sometimes, if you must face something in your destiny, you cannot escape it. The experience was "good" for me though. We become who we are meant to be because of good and bad life experiences.

I am waiting for the fore-casted "5 year to PhD" result haha! They also told me that I'd meet the one I'm destined to be with for the rest of my life before I'm 32. I'm waiting for him to find me . If this proves to be wrong, I won't mind. After all, I can become a nun one day without the burdens of a family then.

[Banh Mi]

Psychics and fortune tellers are B.S. If they could do things that normal people couldn't. They wouldn't be living like how they are.

Kay, I don't know about your situation. Health and Medicine is a pretty big field, you can guess that with alot of people and get quite a few hits. Who knows, you might have been influenced subconsciously.
As for her recognising you, were you using the same computer or from the same area? She could have just recognised you with your IP address.

[kidd]

one of the reasons why i was reallllllly doubtful was because i wasn't sure if it was a scam or not... but the site is legit. sign up and you get 6 free min.. you choose who and you can either call/vid chat (you can see them but they can't see you).

If in the free session, the psychic start telling you how special you are, how connect you are with her or saying that you will have misfortune and she would like to help you with a further reading, don't go further. It's a scam.

so yes, i was skeptical but had a reading nonetheless.. i asked about relationships and career. the psychic i chose started saying " i feel like you're in the medical field ".
at that point, i'm like what? NO WAY! i'm doing PR. PR. PR.
so i was like okay, this is bullshit.. i don't believe it.
but then, lo and behold, i plan to work in the health care profession now :P
i know it's still pretty far-fetched and i can change my mind anytime again but seriously, i feel really certain about this path and am already making plans/arrangements accordingly.
i just find it surprising because i didn't expect it. i was so sure and really held my ground on "okay, this woman has no idea what she's talking about" to a whole 180. maybe it was a good guess, idk, but i had another reading by another psychic on there.. this time, about romance. what he said about my love life was pretty close to what the first psychic described it.. this must mean something, right?

This sound like cold reading to me. Like Banh Mi said, the medical field is very wide and listeners always try to fit their life into the vague statements by cold readers to convince themselves that the psychics are accurate. And she didn't actually get your profession right. You are not in the medical field right now.
As for love life. I think most people who go to psychic who ask for advice on love life will similar love problems.

&& oh not to mention, the first psychic reading i had, i used a different username. last night, i logged into my other username and went into her same chatroom (there are individual chatrooms where you can chat with the reader to get to know them). she said i had a reading with her before and she was able to recall what time of day/who else was in the chatroom with me! her explanation? "she could feel and recognize my familiar energy". i was because i didn't even mention anything about having a reading with her before.

Maybe she check your IP address.

Btw, I do believe there are psychics out there. I've met enough people who talk to entities or receive messages from elsewhere. But, I'm wary of internet psychics. Too many hidden variables. You can't see her, you know nothing about her.

[milKBoi]

I think you are just gullible.

Its all BULL C R A P!!!

There is no such thing as free lunch, they must be after something which you least expect. And once your hooked or take the bait then you will be cursing.

I was once told i am going to be ultra wealthy when i am around 32 or something. I still got more than 10 years to test out that theory. Of course i like to believe its true but i take it as a grain of salt. Meh!!!

Good luck with your health care profession.

[kay &!*]

Psychics and fortune tellers are B.S. If they could do things that normal people couldn't. They wouldn't be living like how they are.

Kay, I don't know about your situation. Health and Medicine is a pretty big field, you can guess that with alot of people and get quite a few hits. Who knows, you might have been influenced subconsciously.
As for her recognising you, were you using the same computer or from the same area? She could have just recognised you with your IP address.

so are you suggesting that psychics should be counted as superior than us and we should bow down to them?
what about the predictions that actually came true for people, and i'm not talking about my reading with these western psychics but stuff like ByTime went through. how do you explain that if psychics are all "bullshit"? i know of many asian families, including my own, have followed certain psychics and they were 90 - 100% accurate in their "bullshit" readings, and i'm not even talking about broad things like career/love. maybe they were given the gift and want to help others?

If in the free session, the psychic start telling you how special you are, how connect you are with her or saying that you will have misfortune and she would like to help you with a further reading, don't go further. It's a scam.

no, they didn't. they went straight to the reading, no pressure or even mentioning of another read.

This sound like cold reading to me. Like Banh Mi said, the medical field is very wide and listeners always try to fit their life into the vague statements by cold readers to convince themselves that the psychics are accurate. And she didn't actually get your profession right. You are not in the medical field right now.
As for love life. I think most people who go to psychic who ask for advice on love life will similar love problems.

she said i WILL be in the med field. when she told me med field, i told her flat out how the hell's that possible if i'm doing pr but she insisted that i was going to be in the med field. that was weeks back. then while i was researching on grad programs and finally decided to do med field, i have totally forgotten about her predictions and the reading in general because i had already thrown out the idea that it was all 'bs'. it couldn't have 'subconsciously' influence me because i have forgotten and it was only after i made the decision that i remembered back. idk, maybe cold calling but still pretty surprising.

Maybe she check your IP address.

i used 2 different laptops to register and everything @ 2 different locations.

Btw, I do believe there are psychics out there. I've met enough people who talk to entities or receive messages from elsewhere. But, I'm wary of internet psychics. Too many hidden variables. You can't see her, you know nothing about her.

i know, TRUST me, i was the same.. still a little am. but i guess that's why they give u the free 6 min. so you can test them out first and see if you like them. THEN you can go back to them.. if anything, i think it's a pretty smart marketing strategy 'cause they know people don't trust the internet easily hahh. after the first try and you decide to like them, you'd keep going back (like some ppl i know). dw, i know how to limit myself and not be totally sucked in.. it was just a matter of convenience and for fun for me. i'd still take a face-to-face asian psychic over an e-western psychic any day

[kay &!*]

I think you are just gullible.

SHUDDAP FOOL

Its all BULL C R A P!!!

There is no such thing as free lunch, they must be after something which you least expect. And once your hooked or take the bait then you will be cursing.

I was once told i am going to be ultra wealthy when i am around 32 or something. I still got more than 10 years to test out that theory. Of course i like to believe its true but i take it as a grain of salt. Meh!!!

Good luck with your health care profession.

thank you

[xJadedx]

Psychics are people who are very good at reading people, but they have absolutely no predictive powers or anything.

I just remember how our city once had a sudden blackout, and everyone was rushing to buy supplies. I saw the psychic lady across the street also rushing and trying to get as much supplies as she could. In my head, I'm like "If you're really psychic, you should've seen this coming."

[kay &!*]

Psychics are people who are very good at reading people, but they have absolutely no predictive powers or anything.

I just remember how our city once had a sudden blackout, and everyone was rushing to buy supplies. I saw the psychic lady across the street also rushing and trying to get as much supplies as she could. In my head, I'm like "If you're really psychic, you should've seen this coming."

disagree

[xJadedx]

Eh, I think psychics and fortune tellers are complete BS and shouldn't be taken seriously. But obviously, other people disagree, since psychics and fortune tellers still are somehow making money.

The Family Guy episode with the psychic was a pretty good satirical example of how people come to believe psychics, even though they're pretty much useless.

[ByTmE]

Everyone just decided to completely disregard my accurate experience. Well, I did the same to all of you non-believers anyway.

[xJadedx]

Eh, self-fulfilling prophecy is a pretty common psychological experience. Not to discount your experience, which sounds awful on its own. But that probably would have happened regardless of what they told you.

Different people have different philosophies - I personally don't believe that another random person will ever know me enough to predict my life. As for destiny or fate - you make your own destiny.

[kay &!*]

Everyone just decided to completely disregard my accurate experience. Well, I did the same to all of you non-believers anyway.

right?

i can't stand people that speaks in a matter-of-factly manner
okay, you don't believe one thing, that's fine. but to say something is complete BS just because your *** doesn't believe it?
are you really going to completely disregard the paranormal side and pull out a common 'logical/scientific' explanation for every one because you prefer it that way?
if some situations (like bytime's) have a clear connection of A to B, there must be some truth behind it.. not to mention, a million other people having the same result. how do you explain her experience then? how can someone accurately pinpoint and say something about another person 10-15 years down the line? "but that probably would have happened regardless of what they told you." really? there's a lot of weird and unexplained shit out there like people who were born with certain skills/talents. maybe psychics were given the abilities to help guide people (the ones who believe in them anyways) towards the right path of life. i certainly wouldn't question someone with special abilities/talent, even if they don't really amaze me

yes, you make your own path/destiny.. but are you going to succeed is another thing. maybe you don't believe in fate but i believe fate is already predetermined. people have free will to do what they want with their life but the outcome is totally different. ex, for people who believe in creating their own destiny, they may want to become successful/wealthy. they believe hard work, motivation, and dedication will bring them to that point.. but in the end, they don't get it due to multiple hardships/obstacles that occurred and prevented them from doing so; things that they cannot control. you can choose the path and do w/e you want with your life but if it's not your time to get riches, you're not gona get it. like how bytime tried to run away from that prediction.. you can run but you can't hide, i'd say

for the people who thinks psychics are completely 'bs', have you ever done a reading? if not, would you get one? and if so, what will you say if they accurately said something will happen to you within the next year?


god, can't stand tight-minded people. just like how i went into the psychic chatroom and asked the psychic about her practices. some people were hardcore believers and basically argued with me for 'questioning' and if i was such a non-believer, why was i there in the first place. i was being cautious and trying to learn more BY asking,.. and that's what i get for keeping an 'open mind' and trying to learn from their standpoint

[xJadedx]

Not believing in psychics and thinking they're BS doesn't mean people are tight-minded. I don't believe in psychics because of the lack of scientific evidence for it and because their predictions can be explained by methods other than "special powers." Just because you believe it doesn't mean everyone else has to too. You made a topic asking if people believe or not, no need to start b*tching at people who offer an opinion or belief different than your own.

I'm not discounting that there may or may not be extrasensory perception, but unfortunately I have not seen enough proper evidence for me to believe in them. If one day, proper evidence are offered, I'm more than willing to change my mind.

But answer me this: if psychics are so good at predicting people's lives - why couldn't the psychics in my city predict and warn their customers about the awful blackout that directly affected a lot of people's lives? And if they're that good at predicting things, why not hire them at the government level for national security issues or for disaster intervention? Why are they all stuck making a measly living in their homes doing readings for the average person when they could be using their powers for much greater good?

[Trien Chieu]

This 21st century, the century of science and technology. We no longer live in dark ages. Things like psychics, fortune tellers, super natural, religions, gods, heaven, hell, and ect should be things of the past. Unfortunately, they are not.

[kay &!*]

Not believing in psychics and thinking they're BS doesn't mean people are tight-minded. I don't believe in psychics because of the lack of scientific evidence for it and because their predictions can be explained by methods other than "special powers." Just because you believe it doesn't mean everyone else has to too. You made a topic asking if people believe or not, no need to start b*tching at people who offer an opinion or belief different than your own.

I'm not discounting that there may or may not be extrasensory perception, but unfortunately I have not seen enough proper evidence for me to believe in them. If one day, proper evidence are offered, I'm more than willing to change my mind.

But answer me this: if psychics are so good at predicting people's lives - why couldn't the psychics in my city predict and warn their customers about the awful blackout that directly affected a lot of people's lives? And if they're that good at predicting things, why not hire them at the government level for national security issues or for disaster intervention? Why are they all stuck making a measly living in their homes doing readings for the average person when they could be using their powers for much greater good?

pretty tight minded in my opinion when your replies have been put into a 'matter of factly' and 'know-it-all' attitude
one thing to express your opinion with 'i think/i feel' than 'this = bullshit' when you can't even explain why some things turned out the way they did.
what are the 'proper' evidences that you want? scientific evidences? there are some things that can't be explained and will probably never be able to put in black and white through textbooks. ex. child prodigies or black magic. how do you explain those things? why/how is child born with so much talent? how can we kill someone without absolutely no direct contact? there's just some mysteries in the world that can't always be explained the way you want it.. and because of that, you're gona label all them as bs?

and maybe because their abilities are limited, because their powers are used to connect to only 1 person at a given time. i'm pretty sure all 'psychics' out there only read people and are unable to forecast anything else like, the weather if this makes you question their ability, well, not their fault they were born with only limited powers.. again, something that cannot be explained so easily.



have yet to see an adequate answer explaining how bytime's reading was so accurate or in some cases, bullshit. it could be coincidence (which i, myself highly doubt) but her story along with manyyy others are something to consider about

[ByTmE]

Eh, self-fulfilling prophecy is a pretty common psychological experience. Not to discount your experience, which sounds awful on its own. But that probably would have happened regardless of what they told you.

How was my experience a self fulfilling prophecy that would happen to me regardless?

BTW, I don't believe in just any random ole' psychic that sets up a stall on the street..even though I'd probably go get a reading for fun. I rarely remember readings actually. It's just my particular past reading actually came from two very different people who said the same thing, almost a decade in advance. I would ask of others to not take my psychic experience lightly just because they have not had one themselves.

[kidd]

I used to think a 'if they are so powerful when can't they predict the lottery number?' way too. But, the more I read the psychics the more I understand why they can't and this cannot be used to disprove their credibility.

From my experience with psychics (I have a number of new age friends) and from reading about psychics, what I gather is that psychics received messages, but, they don't receive all messages. Also, the messages they received are often quite vague and not always in clear details. Some psychics do prediction by contacting their guides. If their guides don't want to let them know for whatever reason, they won't know. So, you can say that psychics messages are quite unpredictable. But, that doesn't prove that they are scammers or BS.
But, I have a thought. If they are so unpredictable and does not always work, how can they do business with this ability? What if someone come and ask for a prediction and no messages comes out? I actually have a card reader (who got messages) told me her guide might not give me all the answers because something I need to learn through experience.

There's another experience I want to relate. It's not mine, but, a family friend's. She belongs to a spiritual organisation where members wear a powerful pedant (don't want to elaborate). She went to a fortune teller that everyone said is very accurate. All the people who went to see him came back saying he's very accurate. So, this friend went to see him, but he got everything wrong about this family friend. Some of the things he said was actually opposite of the truth. My family friend concluded that it must be the pendant's power stronger than whatever entity/power that helps him get personal info from his clients.

[kidd]

yes, you make your own path/destiny.. but are you going to succeed is another thing. maybe you don't believe in fate but i believe fate is already predetermined. people have free will to do what they want with their life but the outcome is totally different. ex, for people who believe in creating their own destiny, they may want to become successful/wealthy. they believe hard work, motivation, and dedication will bring them to that point.. but in the end, they don't get it due to multiple hardships/obstacles that occurred and prevented them from doing so; things that they cannot control. you can choose the path and do w/e you want with your life but if it's not your time to get riches, you're not gona get it. like how bytime tried to run away from that prediction.. you can run but you can't hide, i'd say

I do not believe life is predetermined. I believe what psychics tell you is the most probable outcome of your future based on your current situation. If you change what you are doing now, your outcome will change.

[Banh Mi]

so are you suggesting that psychics should be counted as superior than us and we should bow down to them?
what about the predictions that actually came true for people, and i'm not talking about my reading with these western psychics but stuff like ByTime went through. how do you explain that if psychics are all "bullshit"? i know of many asian families, including my own, have followed certain psychics and they were 90 - 100% accurate in their "bullshit" readings, and i'm not even talking about broad things like career/love. maybe they were given the gift and want to help others?

I'm saying that if they really could do what other people can't, they would be quickly elevated in society. Like Nostradamus. I can't explain what happened with your examples because I don't know. It's unfortunate if you find my wording offensive. That's how strongly I feel about it, and you of all people would appreciate direct statement.
I reckon for all the times you've heard of correct predictions, the same thing has probably been told incorrectly about 100 other people. We just tend to forget and rarely hear of the bad ones as opposed to the miraculously correct ones.
Derren Brown showed something similar to what I'm saying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQrOrBZdJig
If you said the same thing over and over again, eventually you're gonna find someone that got it right.

are you really going to completely disregard the paranormal side and pull out a common 'logical/scientific' explanation for every one because you prefer it that way?
if some situations (like bytime's) have a clear connection of A to B, there must be some truth behind it..

Making a connection from A to B is a logical inference. You're using logic to discredit logic.

Skeptics want psychics and fortune tellers to be real. They're willing to pay almost anything to see true psychics and fortune tellers.