Was it Fan Yao who injured SILVER LEAF Han Qianye?

[PJ]

According to the novel: 是蒙古人手下一个西域哑巴头陀所为

....it was done by a mute Western monk working for the Mongolians.

Sounds like Fan Yao. Since he had the hots for Dai Yisi, I guess he couldn't take it that she married another man, so he tried to hurt the husband?

[tape]

I think it's a reasonable little Easter egg.

[Ken Cheng]

When Jin Yong puts it in those terms, I would say it's highly probable...more probable than not.

[PJ]

It's also probable that Han and Dai may never have known that it was Fan Yao who injured Han. They might have thought it was a real monk.

After Han died, she went around looking for the culprit. That was when Wuji was 14. 10 years later when she reappeared, I don't remember she mentioning the culprit again, nor did she mention Fan Yao, which she would have if she knew. So most likely she was still in the dark.

[tape]

Was this the injury that led to his death, or was it some other injury ?

If it was fatal, then I lose a lot of respect for Fan Yao. Being a jealous prick and killing a woman's husband, who never once had any relations with you, is pretty scummy.

I know he killed some Ming members to prove his loyalty, but that's a different case. The couple traveled in disguise and I can't think of a reason how harming him would gain him trust with the Mongols and can only conclude it was jealousy.

[PJ]

Was this the injury that led to his death, or was it some other injury ?

Han was poisoned. He continued to live for several years, but the poison eventually killed him.

[Guo Xiang]

All evidence points the finger at Fan Yao.

Also, remember his reaction when he first saw Xiao Zhao? That further points to his personal involvement in Han's death.

Quite a pity that this subplot wasn't resolved... and I read that JY took this subplot out of the new edition.

[wkeej]

Re-opening this thread:
1. When, where and how JHPP and HQY poisoned?
2. Why did JHPP recover and not HQY? Is it because medical doctor HQN refuse to treat him?

[WuxiaMaster]

From what I understand:

1. Both suffered 'permanent injuries/organ damage' from their duel in freezing waters.
2. Yes. HQN refuse to treat anyone not from Ming Sect.

[Patudo]

If it was fatal, then I lose a lot of respect for Fan Yao. Being a jealous prick and killing a woman's husband, who never once had any relations with you, is pretty scummy.

I know he killed some Ming members to prove his loyalty, but that's a different case. The couple traveled in disguise and I can't think of a reason how harming him would gain him trust with the Mongols and can only conclude it was jealousy.

I also agree everything points towards it being FY who injured Mr. silver leaf. There's a dark side to the character of both the left and right-hand counsellors of the Ming cult. FY is a pretty sinister character if one thinks about it - the novel kind of skims over his involvement with the Ruyang household but he probably undertook similar missions to eg. the Xuanming twosome, the three Ahs and so on...

[a_tumiwa]

i dont know chinese, but is it really said that the western monk is "mute"?
i checked the 2nd edition that translated here and the 3rd edition of my native language version, both didnt say "mute" , only monk from western region

[Western Eccentric]

i dont know chinese, but is it really said that the western monk is "mute"?
i checked the 2nd edition that translated here and the 3rd edition of my native language version, both didnt say "mute" , only monk from western region

Yeaaah and we can't consider FY as a "Monk" like Kongjian or Xuanci since he not shaved his hair😕😕😕😕