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    Default How many fights involving injured LHC using DG9J are actually believable?

    Almost every time LHC gets in a fight before he learns the Essence Absorbing technique has me rolling my eyes. Fancy technique or not, the situations he gets in are so ridiculous considering JY gives him the added disability of barely having the ability to stand most of the times. We read about inner energy being king and how it alone can trump most techniques by making you so much faster and stronger than the other guy, and now we have crippled LHC destroying opposition left and right.

    Some fights that come into mind:

    Blinding the 15 assassins. Using the 'Missile Breaking Stance' he is somehow able to thrust 30 times without people much faster than him dodging or moving to avoid it. He can barely stand up at this point.

    His stand with Xiang Wentian. Particularly there are 8 experts fighting with spears. EIGHT guys. With six foot spears. Standing in a circle. Somehow LHC is able to close all that distance and stab each of them without closing any distance so that all the spears hit the floor at the same time.

    The fight with Mr. Paint. Mr. Paint is launching sword energy circles from across the room but because he has fantastic technique somehow he can thrust at the circles' weakpoint and disperse them. Does not make sense to me.

    Anytime people skewer their palms on his sword. I don't care if you figure out where the palm is going, the person using the palm shouldn't be dumb enough to skewer their palm on it once they feel your sword. Obviously anyone used to fighting barehanded against weapons is used to people trying to chop and stab their palms. No amount of positioning should allow you to attack -- I can believe in defending with the sword though.


    Don't know why PX Jianfa is known for it's speed when a wounded LHC can stab 30 times simultaneously while running around in a circle while he barely has energy to move.

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    Frankly, the whole underlying concept of Dook Goo 9 Swords is b.s. In Jin Yong's canon, it might be the most contrived martial arts technique of all (and that's saying something, considering the competition).

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    His use of it while injured without inner strength is what bothers me the most -- when he gets his inner strength back he is pretty powerful so it gets a bit believable.

    Another gripe is that JY even mentions that DFBB is so fast that he can't really do anything about it. This is how everyone should have been to him while injured, so no idea why he could successfully attack them and not DFBB. Without inner strength his strikes must have been incredibly slow, while his opponents were often senior masters with inner strength far above his own even without injury. They should have been moving and striking like blurs before he gets a chance to thrust his sword out even if he saw their weakness.

    Hong Qigong no doubt could see the weaknesses of pretty much anybody but other Greats in LOCH, but he can't even beat Jin flunkies while injured (less so than LHC, even). Huang Yaoshi and ZBT immediately saw Lingzi Shangren's weakness was in his neck and subdued him in one move easily. Even if LHC saw the weakness of his opponent's sword moves, he literally should not be able to strike at the weakness or even position his sword for them to impale themselves before being struck himself. Hong Qigong wouldn't have been so dumb to not carry a sword if it meant he could beat everyone in wulin except other Greats since he could see weaknesses of every fighter much like LHC could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Frankly, the whole underlying concept of Dook Goo 9 Swords is b.s. In Jin Yong's canon, it might be the most contrived martial arts technique of all (and that's saying something, considering the competition).
    Depends. It can also be considered the most liberating. I like it more and more.
    TC to Ken: "You need to watch the ending of ROCH 83."

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