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    Default Was Ding Chun Qiu's betrayal an extremely short sighted decision?

    It seems that DCQ could have eventually gained access to all of the extremely powerful Xiao Yao martial arts. XWSG, Tian Shan Liu Yang Zhang, TianShan Tong Lao's BH6HWWDZ, Bei Ming Shen Gong, LBWB. Why did he give all of that up to study HGDF? It seems his teacher, Wu Yazi, gave him a lot of chances too, but DCQ kept trying to kill him.

    Also, how much of a martial arts prodigy was DCQ? His Fu Shi Do, where he injects poison into one of his disciples before hurling him as a projectile is extremely powerful. He can even throw 9 poisoned corpses in a row. I assume the FSD was DCQ's own creation, showing that he was capable of inventing powerful skills, a rare feat that demonstrates his talent.

    However, is DCQ talented enough to learn the cave carvings in XiXia's palace? It seems Murong Fu had trouble learning them, and MRF seemed evenly matched with DCQ. Even if DCQ had access to all the advanced skills like XWSG, Tian Shan Liu Yang Zhang, TianShan Tong Lao's BH6HWWDZ, Bei Ming Shen Gong, LBWB, does he even have the potential to master them?

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    Ding probably believed that Wuyazi would never have passed the skills on to him because he felt that Wuyazi would have disapproved of his character, and give it all to Su Xinghe. Even if Su would never have the talent of Ding, Wuyazi might have deemed that Ding would be too big a threat to wulin with access to all that power, and might even choose to eliminate him before he himself passes on. Bad guys usually feel quite insecure about their positions especially when their masters, who could kill them easily, never approved of their character and methods. In practice Wuyazi might well have just passed it on to Ding, since he didn't seem to care about what was good and bad in wulin, but he might have taken a new disciple, or trained Su in special techniques with which he could battle Ding if he ever needed to.

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    I agree, what you said made a lot of sense, especially the part about immoral characters having a tendency to be paranoid. Hello Stalin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Liew View Post
    Ding probably believed that Wuyazi would never have passed the skills on to him because he felt that Wuyazi would have disapproved of his character, and give it all to Su Xinghe.
    ^ This.




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    Ding could not have learned BMSG as it would require him to have no internal, but after attacking WYZ, he obtained XMSG from LQS, but failed to master it in the 30-40 years after attacking WYZ.

    Did TSTL not know of what he did? I seem to remember that she didn't and if so, he was very lucky since she would have likely torn him to shreds given her obsession with WYZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by athlee View Post
    Did TSTL not know of what he did? I seem to remember that she didn't and if so, he was very lucky since she would have likely torn him to shreds given her obsession with WYZ.
    This is a good point.

    Ah, since DCQ failed to learned XWSG despite having 30-40 years to train it, I guess he lacked the talent to master advanced orthodox martial arts. We can chalk this failure up to Xiao Yao's high recruitment standard. Only handsome/beautiful students are considered for membership ( Xu Zhu was an exception due to the emergency of the situation )

    Talented martial artists are extremely rare, beautiful people are also rare, finding someone who fits both criteria is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. No wonder XY was a small school, compared to Shaolin with hundreds of disciples. If Hong Qigong was that picky, he would have missed out on Guo Jing
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    I have doubts on whether the requirement was a school thing or just personal preference of WYZ. After all, TSTL was 6 when she first started training and WYZ also indicate that he has been training nearly all his life. Did her master go around looking at babies and imagining how they will look like in 20 years before accepting her? Or was there a beauty pgeant for babies where the judge was their master and the prize being entry into XY sect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by athlee View Post
    Did her master go around looking at babies and imagining how they will look like in 20 years before accepting her? Or was there a beauty pgeant for babies where the judge was their master and the prize being entry into XY sect?
    They were probably able to predict with high confidence that a child would stay handsome into the future.
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    DCQ was not weak in martial arts but because(i believe) he had practiced unorthodox inner power poison techniques, it effected his ability to practice the pure energy style of XWXG. he shot himself in the foot with his ways.

    i guess the XYP sect considers the parents looks before accepting pupils.
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