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    So are you saying that these events are not actually happening? That the ccp is never done any of these?


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    Minority ethnic groups tend to be treated really well in China, especially when you compare it to how a lot of formal colonial countries treat their Aboriginals. (Think how terribly US and Canada manage in comparison to China.) Those in China who have assimilated live just like any other Han person, and those who have not assimilated are treated respectfully. They often live partially (or fully) off of government money and the law is kinder to them than Han Chinese people (i.e. they can set up shop without paying for a license). How sustainable (especially economically) do you think it really is for areas dominated by minority ethnicities to split off from China?

    And Hong Kong may have some corporate businesses, but where do you think their food, water, resources, etc. would come from? It's a small and overpopulated island.
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    But the ccp is trying to completely remove cantonese from the hong konger and replace it with mandarin. Same thing with many in guangzhuo.


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    I don't think it's a bad thing for people all over the country to be able to communicate. At the end of the day, people will still know how to speak their own dialect. Mandarin is taught in schools all over mainland China, yet countless dialects still thrive. Even if the government were to take drastic measures to actually wipe out Cantonese (which it won't) that's a terrible reason to ignore the question of sustainability.
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    But the generation of today are different than those of years ago. There is many things that influence the mass beside school. like TV shows. there was this demonstration in guangzhuo about how cantonese tv shows were being replaced with mandarin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNaR View Post
    ah ic, true, didnt know its mandatory lol, then i agree with u lol. funny how chocolate bar selling knows more english than the cop lol
    English has been mandatory learning in all of China's schools since the 90's. Except then, it was only mandatory from grade 4 on whereas now, it's mandatory from kindergarten on. The sad part is, most of the people who teach English there isn't even good enough to speak it, let alone teach it. It's better now (at least in rich provinces like GuanGdong), but it doesn't get used (in terms of speaking) so people just forget it all after they graduate from school.

    Basically, any staff member (not all) at major airports throughout China speaks English as they wouldn't be hired if they didn't. For a person who posts so much about China, shouldn't you know this stuff first hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bai Qi44 View Post
    English has been mandatory learning in all of China's schools since the 90's. Except then, it was only mandatory from grade 4 on whereas now, it's mandatory from kindergarten on. The sad part is, most of the people who teach English there isn't even good enough to speak it, let alone teach it. It's better now (at least in rich provinces like GuanGdong), but it doesn't get used (in terms of speaking) so people just forget it all after they graduate from school.

    Basically, any staff member (not all) at major airports throughout China speaks English as they wouldn't be hired if they didn't. For a person who posts so much about China, shouldn't you know this stuff first hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Heiress View Post
    I don't think it's a bad thing for people all over the country to be able to communicate. At the end of the day, people will still know how to speak their own dialect. Mandarin is taught in schools all over mainland China, yet countless dialects still thrive. Even if the government were to take drastic measures to actually wipe out Cantonese (which it won't) that's a terrible reason to ignore the question of sustainability.
    Nobody really speaks the kind of Shanghainese that was spoken in the early 20th century anymore. It's been diluted by the influx of Mandarin that the Commies forces everybody to speak.

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    http://kibescorporation.blogspot.com...t-nations.html

    Hong Kong has no identity. They're a monument to hypocrisy, and it's amazing that the CCP has put up with their bullcrap for so long. Truly magnanimous on their part, because aside from being British dogs, HK is also completely irrelevant to the entire rest of the world and wholly dependent on mainland tourism (hence the hypocrisy).
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    The Qingming Festival has been a National holiday in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan for forever. Mainland China only reinstituted it in 2008.

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