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    As we approach the 4th month and 14th meeting between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), the latest round of U.S. pressured negotiations seem hopelessly deadlocked. What else is new?Secretary of State Kerry arrived in Jerusalem this week to try and resuscitate the perpetually moribund peace talks between Israel and the PLO. According to an article in the Jerusalem Post, Israeli officials claim both sides are cognizant a gap between them is so great that only an interim deal can be made in the 9-month time frame mandated by the Obama Administration.

    Not wasting a moment, PLO secretary general, Yasser Abed Rabbo, immediately quashed the report and rejected it out of hand, stating it was “baseless.”….“The Palestinian leadership rejects any interim agreements…. We also reject the idea of establishing a Palestinian state with temporary borders.” As if not emphatic enough, he went on to describe the Israeli position as: “the worst in 20 years.”

    PA Foreign Minister Riad Malki concurred, reaffirming as non-negotiable the demand for a two-state solution based upon the pre-1967 lines “where Palestine and Israel would live next to each other in security and peace.” Wouldn’t that be nice?In accordance, PLO Executive Committee member Wasel Abu Yusef further dispelled the aura of secret negotiations by stating, if they didn’t get their way, “The Palestinians won’t be able to continue with them. All indications show that the talks are headed toward failure.” For reasons other than his, I couldn’t agree with him more.Lost in all the hyperbole of deceptive surface issues such as “settlements,” Jerusalem, the right of return, pre-67 borders, and the creation of a Palestinian state itself, is a failure to recognize these issues are outward symptoms of the struggle, not its essence. The foundation, the least common denominator of this enmity is the expansionist nature of Islam, a political movement ensconced in a religion.More than any other reason, these innumerable talks have been nothing but a game of ring around the rosy and Jew hatred, codified within the Qur’an and Hadith, the foundational scriptures of Islam. To the faithful, the mere existence of a sovereign Jewish state in their midst is a violation of dar-al-Islam (all those lands in which a Muslim sets foot in becomes the possession of Islam. Non-Muslims may live there but only upon Muslim sufferance). This is the substantive point of departure of Arab bellicosity long before 1948 and to this very day is the one underlying issue which renders all others moot.From the past to the present, from Mohammad, to the Caliphate dynasties, onward to today’s terrorists wreaking havoc upon the world. Expansive Islam is driven by the venerated Qur’an, one-third of which is devoted to the denigration of Jews. The quotes in the Hadith (the putative sayings of Muhammad or a report about something he did) are no less replete with Jewish invective. These laws divide the world theologically into those who who accept Islam as a divine religion and those that do not.Those who do not are called dhimmis (conquered people that do not convert to Islam but are protected as long as they pay an exorbitant poll tax, the jizya). They are forced to accept a recognizable and humiliating second class existence under strict Islamic suzerainty. This has been the fate of all native populations vanquished by Muslim hordes throughout history and would surely be that of Jews in Israel today if they absurdly succumb to the pressures of a land for peace pipe dream where recalcitrant terrorist groups over a period of time would certainly finish off whatever was left of Israel.Unfortunately, hitherto, the West either fails to recognize or doesn’t have the moxie to confront the self-evident theological nature of the Middle East dispute, finding it much easier to admonish Israel for not acquiescing to the preposterous demands made upon her. To those dismissive of this analysis, deeming it Islamophobic, I encourage you not to kill the messenger. Instead google an English translation of the Qur’an, type in “Jews” or “children of Israel,” do some objective scholarship, and make your own judgment as to whether this clash is fueled by temporal dictates or by theological, systemic, Jew hatred.
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    Is the Muslim hate the Jews because of Qur’an?
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    Quote Originally Posted by galvatron View Post
    Is the Muslim hate the Jews because of Qur’an?[/FONT]
    I don't think so. As long as the Jews continue to occupy the land of the Palestinians, the conflict will continue. No matter how powerful the Jewish people are, they will lose to the Arab in the end. Despite being inferior in term of wealth and military power, they Arabs are out number the Jews and they are capable of doing anything include suicide bomber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    I don't think so. As long as the Jews continue to occupy the land of the Palestinians, the conflict will continue. No matter how powerful the Jewish people are, they will lose to the Arab in the end. Despite being inferior in term of wealth and military power, they Arabs and out number the Jews and they are capable of doing anything include suicide bomber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck21 View Post
    CYou couldn't be more wrong.
    As long as the Jew keep taking land from the Palestine and suppress them, the Jew will never have peace. When the Arab acquires WMD they will definitely use it on them. The population of Israel is about 6 million and the total Jewish population is about 13 million where as the population of the Arab, who are the sworn enemy of the Jew, is at least few hundred million. The Jew and Arab are sworn enemy like the one you see in wuxia.

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