Originally Posted by
yannlc
Gosh! Where do you get your infor on the scripts etc?? I never understood SARFT's 'rule' on not allowing real historical characters in the tv...dont they know its all fiction. And isnt Yuwen Yong / Hu / Yu all historical characters? That would mean alot of shows cannot be produced right? What about Ruby Lin's recent drama with Yuan Hong? Arent they playing historical characters too?
I get my info from the chinese forums. I have been paying attention to this drama since 2013 and occasionally, some members of the production teams take shots of the script or scene descriptions. But they quickly get deleted as they don't want to lose their job.
I think they allow historical characters and some leeway on fiction, but they do not tolerate going against proven historical facts, like marriages, deaths, etc. If you watched Ruby's "Singing All Along", you would have noticed that Empress Guo's mum's death scene was strangely cut. While it made sense for her to die and save her daughter, it was cut as she was known to die a bit later and buried with full honours. So SARFT cut it.
I guess China is trying to improve the historical knowledge of its citizens so they don't get misled by wonky scripts. I get its intention but it does limit the creativity of some scripts. You have to stick to the proven facts, but anything in between,you are free to make up all the fiction you want. They allow some leniency on historical dates. But depends on who is doing the assessment.
Originally Posted by
yannlc
Regarding Yuwen Yong's historical ending
click to show/hide spoilers I wasnt aware he died in mysterious circumstances! please do share more...all I read was that he died of an illness in the middle of a campaign against...forgot which country. I agree with you that historically Yuwen Yong did like Li Ezi alot considering that he had 2 kids with her and she was seven years older than him! I also read that the Queen was childless...did your readings explain more on this? Totally agreed that Yuwen Yong and Li Ezi's son was just terrible!!!
click to show/hide spoilers I have no idea, but rumours have it that he was poisoned to get his son on the throne since he was such an idiot and easy to manipulate. I know people in the past died young but for a healthy military man of good upbringing and good health to die at 35 is suspicious. Some people say that Yang Jian did it since he rose to power after marrying his daughter to the idiot and then collapsed the kingdom in a matter of 2-3 years, but there is no proof.
And Empress Ashina was indeed childless. Yuwen Yong and her were friendly but it seems that he may have still devoted his time to his military campaigns and Li Ezi. It is hard to build a romantic relationship with a daughter from a warring nation. Even though they had a political alliance from the marriage, Northern Zhou and Tujue still had many conflicts due to the influence if Northern Qi and neither were really content to have the other nearby kingdom nearby for long.
So I guess while Yuwen Yong may have not disliked Empress Ashina as a person, he may not have invested a lot of personal emotions into their relationship due to the threat of the Tujue's who were flipping back and forth between Zhou and Qi. And to let his heir have Tujue blood may sway his nation's interests towards that of the Tujue's interests after he dies so maybe Yuwen Yong was not keen to have a child with Empress Ashina. And if I remember correctly, Tujue was still attacking Northern Zhou while it was trying to battle Southern Chen, trying to gain opportunistic benefits while the other two large kingdoms fought. Yuwen Yong died in battle with the Tujue.
Originally Posted by
yannlc
I dont understand how the TV systems work in China...wasnt so bothered because in the past it used to be relatively easy to watch the shows online and I was more into korean dramas. However lately, there's a bunch of interesting chinese dramas which deviate from the usual story lines like <<法医秦明>>, 《如果蜗牛有爱情》, <<灵魂摆渡>> that I really want to watch but first they started with stopping people from viewing if you are viewing from outside China. Now they are stopping youtube etc from rebroadcasting the shows making it difficult to cultivate an interest in China drama productions (unlike the interest from korean dramas).
It is a copyright issue.
Originally Posted by
yannlc
Would everyone here care to share how you get to watch your favorite china drama shows?
Hehehehe.
Originally Posted by
yannlc
BTW I assume Mango TV arent the producers? But from your description, they have the rights to sell the show to free tv? Hopefully Hunan TV decides to show THREE episodes every day...would that have catch up to mango?
No. Mango TV/Hunan TV are only a TV station, like how TVB is in Hong Kong. They do produce some shows or invest in some shows, but as far as I know, LLWF is only a purchased production. There are a number of production companies who make shows, then sell it to several TV stations. Mango TV is the largest station in China and also the richest, so they usually buy the premiere rights so that no other station/site can stream this show before they have finished the first run. Then another station would but the rights of a subsequent run for a lesser price. This can go on for ages since each province in China seems to have their own TV station.
click to show/hide spoilersIn terms of youtube, posting eps there is actually illegal but as you said, being trapped overseas and banned by sites, we have little choice but to watch the illegal channels on youtube. Another option is to purchase a TV box that connects to chinese streaming sites like Youku, Tudou, LeTV, etcc. where it crawls and searches for series on its sites. But this can only happen when a show is publicly shown on free-to-air TV as Mango TV often shares a licence with one of the sites for the premiere broadcast. There are youtube channels which are actually licensed to stream shows.
But exclusive broadcasts like what we are experiencing now is shown in either Mango's own site or iQiyi where you can only view if you pay for a membership and the crawler engine cannot tap into it. And being overseas, even if you pay the site, you cannot watch it as it can only stream within China.
Most netizens are willing to share the ripped episodes from these exclusive sites not being they want to cause trouble or want to make money. They actually post these episodes without asking anything in return and they understand that not everyone can the circumstances to pay membership fees. Even though it is illegal, it is actually quite nice that people care.
But Mango TV is notorious for cutting episodes to a shorter length and adding 5-10 min recap scenes at the beginning of every episode so you may end up with more than the promised 47 eps. The more episodes, the longer the show ill run for and the more moolah from ads Mango gets.
Originally Posted by
yannlc
which other show is mango tv going to broadcast later in the year (although its already nov!)?
Rumours are that "Tribes and Empires" may screen after Christmas or early next year. "Princess Agents" may also screen around the new year mark.