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    Talking Three Lives, Three Worlds 《三生三世十里桃花》 - Yang Mi, Mark Chao, Ken Chang


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    Just a quick summary for those having problems with the long load times of the pages in this thread:

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    March 26, 2017 at 9:59 AM

    Looking forward to movie. Since the story is actually based on Return of the Condor Heroes (ROCH), and Bai Qian/Si Yin/Su Su is based on ROCH character Xiao Long Nu (XLN), it's very fitting for Crystal Liu to play this role cuz guess who played XLN in the 2006 ROCH adaptation?
    Juliana Maisyara
    March 27, 2017 at 8:04 AM

    did the author said that? when you mention that I see some resemblance with that drama, teacher and student romance, older woman and younger man romance, when XLN fall from the cliff make them separate long time


    -- TIME LINE --

    1959 - Legend of the Condor Heroes
    1961 - Return of the Condor Heroes
    1963 - Heavenly Sword & Dragon Saber

    1970-2000 - THE AGE OF JIN YONG ADAPTATIONS

    2000-2040 - THE AGE OF JIN YONG DERIVATIVE WORKS
    2003 - Ice Fantasy (derives from ROCH + LotR)
    2017 - 3L3W Drama (derives from ROCH)

    2041 - 2xxx - A NEW JIN YONG IS BORN/PUBLISHED

    Exception: 1977-202x STAR WARS = Western Jin Yong derivative works (IV-VI = LOCH + ROCH, I-III = LOCH + ROCH, VII-IX = HSDS, X-XII = DGSD or XAJH, XIII-XV = DGSD or XAJH)


    -- 3L3W is ROCH with Xianxia Twist --

    Bai Qian refusing to meet her suitors/not appearing in public = Xiao Long Nu living in seclusion inside Tomb (brushing off suitors like the Mongolian Prince by refusing to meet him even outside the Tomb's entrance)

    Su Su making the jump in Heaven = 16 years separation between XLN and YG

    Ye Hua = YG

    Mo Yuan = YK (YG is the splitting image of YK in ROCH)

    2nd Prince of Ghost Tribe = rapist in ROCH (the only other char infatuated with XLN)

    Su Jin = mix of Huang Rong (cunning) and Guo Fu (spoiled)

    Xuan Nu = Li MoChou (her man never showed much interest in her, causes all the aggravations and terrible things she does)

    Heavenly Lord (current) = dumb Guo Jing (he needs DiJun to constantly bail him out of difficult [mental] situations)

    Dijun + Feng Jiu = White-haired YG and Guo Xiang (did they create a story arc where YG got together with GX in the mortal realm? Well such thing would have been taboo in ROCH b/c YG's girl is XLN not GX whether white haired or not)

    Yao Guang + Mo Yuan duel in episode 01 = Lin Chaoying (mischievous version) & Wang Chongyang (apathetic version) with slight difference Lin Chaoying did not threaten to commit suicide if she lost the duel, and Wang Chongyang actually told her to move away after she lost

    Meeting in the sea kingdom of East King = like variant of meeting in Passionless Valley in ROCH with YG reuniting with a XLN who claims she didn't know him, and a Gongsun Loue eyeing YG (and XLN) green with envy

    Zhe Yan = the Giant Condor (he's called the Old Phoenix, flies around on a one-legged bird, and saved Yang Guo right after losing his arm)

    Big Bad = GWM


    (P.S.: Aren't I great for seeing these things just from viewing 14 episodes when ppl who've watched them all didn't even know a blind was pulled over their eyes by the very fact that ROCH served as the scaffold on which 3L3W (love) story is based, hence it is derivative work of Jin Yong...)
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    After I rage quit this series, but saw how awesome the extended movie trailer was, I went back to the drama. Love O2O was an interesting experiment in that I watched both movie and drama, but needed both to fully comprehend the work (though after seeing both, I much preferred the movie version). BTW, this isn't the first time I dropped a drama series 1/3 of the way. Check the Ice Fantasy thread on how I nearly gave up after a few episodes but resumed it later on... I'm now on Ep 40 of 3L3W.



    Hmm, what can I say about episodes 1-40...

    Ye Hua definitely lives up to his name as the YG clone. He isn't dumb like GJ, he saw thru Su Jin's plan to have the maid drug him.

    Xuan Nu just gets more interesting. Just when this derivative work couldn't get enough of modeling events from ROCH, Xuan Nu strolls around carrying her sick child rather than (or akin to) Li MoChou abducting someone else's baby aka baby Guo Xiang...

    3 months is a long time to wait for the movie to come out...

    Some ppl say the best episode was 30, where YH (YG) reencounters SS (XLN). Been there done that says Jin Yong. The peach tree from which BQ fell and YH caught her, ain't that the woods in Passionless Valley where YG chance encounters XLN after looking for her nearly forever? She doesn't remember him, well XLN pretended not to know YG at that place did she not?


    BTW, if anyone asks me why ROCH is the superior work in the Condor Trilogy (why I gave both ROCH clones Ice Fantasy and 3L3W a free 2nd pass b/c ROCH is my fav Jin Yong work bar none). Well it's just like Super Mario Bros.:

    LOCH = SMB 1
    HSDS = SMB 2
    ROCH = SMB 3

    ROCH was written after the author gained some storycraft experience...

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    Up to Episode 43 now.

    Terribly unbalanced.

    Yehua, Yehua, I feel sorry for you. Practically every girl you met wanted to sleep with you. Meanwhile who wanted to bed Aunty Bai Qian (or crazy enough to desire it)? Just you and Li Jing.

    I feel like Yehua deserved much better than what the author of 3L3W hashed up.

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    O M G

    Episode 45, Yang Guo, erm, I mean Ye Hua lost an arm battling the 4 Mystical Beasts!!

    I love it!!

    It is s-o-o-o EPIC!!

    There are only two works in the world NOT daring enough to copy this ROCH gimmick, erm, I mean obsession with ppl losing arms. They are STAR WARS and 3L3W.

    Obviously, why would a Westerner be interested in adapting a Chinese work? And why would a female author choose to copy a male writer?
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    Default The Best ROCH Adaptation by Far!!

    Probably my last post on this topic. So, I thought I'd do a review after having seen 45/58 episodes so far (ppl have reviewed an entire show after only seeing the first 3 episodes, so I thought, why not?)


    OVERALL RATING

    23.0/10 - A Great ROCH adaptation

    16.0/10 - A Good ROCH adaptation

    12.0/10 - Three Lives, Three Worlds (2017) drama version

    12.0/10 - Dragon Nest: Warrior's Dawn (2014) CGI movie in 3-D

    9.5/10 - Legend of Ravaging Dynasties (2016) CGI mocap movie

    9.0/10 - Candle in the Tomb (2017)

    7.5/10 - Return of the Condor Heroes (1983)

    7.0/10 - Ice Fantasy

    7.0/10 - Return of the Condor Heroes (1995)

    7.0/10 - Heavenly Sword & Dragon Saber (2009)

    7.0/10 - Legend of the Condor Heroes (2003)

    7.0/10 - Legend of the Condor Heroes (1983)

    6.5/10 - The Mystic Nine

    6.5/10 - Swordsman (2013)

    3.0/10 - Return of the Condor Heroes (2006)

    1.0/10 - Romance of the Condor Heroes (2014)


    LIKES

    - All the great ROCH characters are here in derivative form. Not a single char is skipped, not even Yang Kang (Mo Yuan)
    - Ye Hua (Yang Guo) losing an arm in battle -- that is just so ROCH EPIC AWESOMENESS!!
    - I like Guo Xiang from ROCH (2006), so I like this Bai Qian drama version
    - OMG CGI battles done right. Episode 01 duel between Mo Yuan & Yao Guang even though only a short segment is 10x better than the duel of fate in STAR WARS Episode I between Darth Maul and QiGon + ObiWan

    DISLIKES

    - Bai Qian needs more social proof. In ROCH XLN had many ppl showing romantic interest (YG, rapist, Gongsun Zhi), but in 3L3W only Ye Hua and Li Jing interested in Bai Qian (Mo Yuan don't count cuz he's her master/can't ever show romantic interest in her).
    - More ppl need to react to Bai Qian's beauty rather than trying to catch Ye Hua's attention.

    AFTER THOUGHTS

    - Thinking of skipping the movie version b/c:

    1. I like Guo Xiang in ROCH (2006). Bai Qian has appeared in a ROCH adaptation before:

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    2. I dislike Liu Yifei. She's like a 6.0/10 on my beauty scale

    3. I dislike Liu Yifei even more after finding out she's dating a Korean. She seems like a very spoiled anti-Chinese person (studied in Japan, dating Korean, etc.). I do not wish to support her nor her career.

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    Of all the songs sang for 3L3W, this has to be my favorite one:


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    Guo Xiang being playful with white-haired Yang Guo (there's not a single trace of golden hair, except for Ghost Princess' savior/protector, which doesn't count cuz he's a lion, in this drama, which is why I love it!!):

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    The best MV of the opening song:


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    Probably the best unofficial MV of the ending song:


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    P.S.:

    Now I know

    Why they called Zhe Yan

    The Old Phoenix.

    Guess which bird flies around on another one-legged bird

    And saved Yang Guo right after he lost his arm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirobo2 View Post
    AFTER THOUGHTS

    - Thinking of skipping the movie version b/c:

    1. I like Guo Xiang in ROCH (2006). Bai Qian has appeared in a ROCH adaptation before:

    2. I dislike Liu Yifei. She's like a 6.0/10 on my beauty scale

    3. I dislike Liu Yifei even more after finding out she's dating a Korean. She seems like a very spoiled anti-Chinese person (studied in Japan, dating Korean, etc.). I do not wish to support her nor her career.
    Was seriously reading your post up to here. Then disregarded everything you said because your negatively and baseless accusations just stripped me of any inkling to give thought to your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwielie View Post
    You can read the novel http://docslide.us/documents/three-l...lossoms1.html#

    when I watch non sub, i also read the novel as the guide. it help a lot.

    sujin said : "If a fairy's sould is destroyed, only needs to place the jie ts will jie po deng at the head of his bead for three days. The lost sould fragments will piece perfectly together as before. As for mortal, only needs to buron a glimmer of his soul for a short while. The lantern will recognize the distinct soul and can slowly collect the obliterated fragnents and recreate another similiar soul. (page 117, i found this while keep reading so many times the novel).

    sujin also said: "it is a fake" (although it is similiar soul but it is not a real).

    I love the scene where Ye Hua burn Susu's clothing and hope that she will revive.

    love love the yehua expression when he was so sad and keep waiting for her..

    With the novel, i realize the part where YeHua ask his 3rd uncle how to chase a woman... He was actually jealous with the bird.. wakakaka.. he already fall in love with her.. yes yes...
    "September came in the blink of an eye. Cinnamon blossoms' sweet fragrance drowned the region. Susu brought back a mother magpie who has lost her children. She started to dote on the magpie and paid less attention to him. He felt the danger of losing her affection. He waited for her to leave one day and went back to Heaven to seek his uncles advice." (page 185)
    Oh no, the link died. Can anyone upload it again? Or maybe email a copy of the novel to me please? Didn't know this forum exist, and when I tried to download the novel, the link had expired..

    Finished watching the drama last month, but until now, i can't seem to move-on T___T
    Maybe if I read the novel, I'll be able to..

    Though I can't say Mark Chao is good looking, but in the drama, I just can't take my eyes off him. He fits Ye Hua's and Mo Yuan's characters so well! #heartstruck <3

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