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    That's some very nice looking stills.

    I just watched the episode where they meet up again after the time jump...that kiss and bedroom scene...

    I have never seen a Chinese drama be that intense. So much lip action. I've not seen a lot of recent dramas so don't know if this is the norm now but I am loving it.

    It made perfect sense it would be that intense between them considering they've been separated for 3 years. That's a lot of sexual fustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda View Post
    That's some very nice looking stills.

    I just watched the episode where they meet up again after the time jump...that kiss and bedroom scene...

    I have never seen a Chinese drama be that intense. So much lip action. I've not seen a lot of recent dramas so don't know if this is the norm now but I am loving it.

    It made perfect sense it would be that intense between them considering they've been separated for 3 years. That's a lot of sexual fustration.
    Yes it was a well done scene, enough aggressiveness, yet still safe for t.v lol. I thought it was nicely done! And I like that both party took part in the action, instead of always letting the male lead take charge. Good job Angelababy! I read that, when Angelababy learned that CBJ was going to be played by Wallace, she heard that he was a good kisser, so she went online to look at his kissing scene lol!

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    I did wonder if it was safe for TV because it wasn't safe for work. I should not have watched it at work.

    The whole scene was done so well, I was wondering if they were going to take off any more clothes but alas they didn't. This is now my standard for kissing scenes in the future. All the other productions need to step it up and give viewers more intense kissing scenes then those fish pecks. Even Go Princess Go with its crude sexual humour didn't have this much fan service.

    My only issue with the scene is she looked so young in her get up that I almost forgot she was of age. This costume was the one that made her look the youngest since the start. I wished they gave her a more mature look for the scene.

    Is Wallace a good kisser? I've seen him in some work but was never that invested, though I've always liked him enough, left over fondness from his earlier roles I guess. I tried his My Sunshine with Tang Yan, I didn't finish it. She had such ugly hair it annoyed me. I am too superficial to sit through an entire drama of someone with ugly hair and rock for brains. I should check out some of his kissing scenes then.
    Currently in love with Bae Suzy...for superficial reasons.

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    I finished this drama today too, right after 3 Lives 10 mile peach blossom.

    I'm glad they took their time to lay out the last battle, watching BPT and CBJ set up their chessboard while evil guy succumbs to his grief and guilt was very satisfying.

    The ending to everyone was well done, I especially loved the evil guys death and how he remembered the princess before saving BPT. I thought he would tell BPT he loved her before his death or show signs that he was still in love with her, but it clearly shows he no longer, or may never have, loved BPT as much as he believed himself too. BPT represents his happier times and though he had feelings for her before majority of his feelings now was just wanting to hold on to some happiness. He was not a happy man.

    I loved how when BPT came to save CBJ and pushed him away he thought back to the princess saving him, when he saw them fall and looked at BPT face he saw the princess's face so he pushed her back.

    I don't believe he mistook BPT in the scene to be the princess but he recognized the love BPT had for her husband was the same as how the princess felt for him, only he single handily caused her death so saving BPT was his way of reconising those feelings were true. I think it also shows that they were both people he cared about and wanted to keep safe but kept denying it and convincing himself he could watch them die, saving BPT was him admiting to his mistake.

    The whole montage of the main couples relationship afterwards was too soon after his montage that it loses it's impact.

    Overall I think this was a good fil, it was fast pace, had an interesting storyline, a winning couple, a sympathetic villian, a great amount of action and cheese and best of all a great ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda View Post
    I finished this drama today too, right after 3 Lives 10 mile peach blossom.

    I'm glad they took their time to lay out the last battle, watching BPT and CBJ set up their chessboard while evil guy succumbs to his grief and guilt was very satisfying.

    The ending to everyone was well done, I especially loved the evil guys death and how he remembered the princess before saving BPT. I thought he would tell BPT he loved her before his death or show signs that he was still in love with her, but it clearly shows he no longer, or may never have, loved BPT as much as he believed himself too. BPT represents his happier times and though he had feelings for her before majority of his feelings now was just wanting to hold on to some happiness. He was not a happy man.

    I loved how when BPT came to save CBJ and pushed him away he thought back to the princess saving him, when he saw them fall and looked at BPT face he saw the princess's face so he pushed her back.

    I don't believe he mistook BPT in the scene to be the princess but he recognized the love BPT had for her husband was the same as how the princess felt for him, only he single handily caused her death so saving BPT was his way of reconising those feelings were true. I think it also shows that they were both people he cared about and wanted to keep safe but kept denying it and convincing himself he could watch them die, saving BPT was him admiting to his mistake.

    The whole montage of the main couples relationship afterwards was too soon after his montage that it loses it's impact.

    Overall I think this was a good fil, it was fast pace, had an interesting storyline, a winning couple, a sympathetic villian, a great amount of action and cheese and best of all a great ending.
    Yeah I actually liked He Xia's death too. I think Sean Sun did a fantastic job being the villian! I am okay with the ending , but I wished they show more of what happened to the other members as well. Instead of showing the flashback, they should of done a flashforward with narrating! But it is what it is! I still really enjoy this drama , the cast, cinematography and storyline. Yes the series is not without flaw, but it still to me consider one of the better ones out there! I actually followed it live and very passionately as well! Was always a wallace fan, but not I am more of a fangirl lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IloveMimiLo View Post
    Yes The cuts are very bad! LOL but since we know why they did it, it can be forgiven. But it would be very nice to have them not use stunts for simple scene like that! Ahh well its to late now, the show has been film I just have to like it for what it is! It kind of is annoying, but since I am expecting it it doesn't bother me as much! But then again there are such simple scene such as when CBJ carrying her in his manor to the bed , why did they even need to green screen that. There is just some scene that you know its a body double but really not nessesarry, its like the forgot to film it and ask the body double to do it, then photoshopped AB into it. It's pretty weird!! Haha I do apperciate the concept of each scene, even though the CG is not up to par but I can see the vision that the director has! I was watching a BTS video where they design each set, pretty neat and makes me have more apperciation for this series!! I am only on episode 40, man that like almost 10 episode since CBJ and BPT seperated, the only thing we have connected with them is through dialog! HOW many more episode do I need to wait lol!!!

    I haven't liked a romance series in so long! I think my last obsession was with the Sound of desert, romance and production wise this series surpass Sound of desert!
    Me too!!! I loved loved Sound of Desert, but this show, this show is just out of this world (IMPO) !!! To be honest, I never knew who Wallace was, never heard of him. After watching this, I have become a huge fan. After the ending of General and I, I have since watched My Sunshine and Best Time, and I have also watched this show umpteenth times (more than 5 times)!!! If Nirvana in Fire is one of the best Chinese drama ever, then CBJ is one of the most well-portrayed character by Wallace Chung in any Chinese drama. He's perfect! Can't imagine anyone else playing CBJ. The chemistry between AB and WC was amazing, I think partly due to fact that AB was not stiff and restrained in the kissing scenes.
    Anyhow, just wanted to share with you that we have something in common - loved Sound of Desert and crazy about General and I, especially Wallace Chung/Chu Bei Jie.

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    I hear a lot of bad publicity about this drama after I finished it. I'm glad I didn't read about before I watched the drama because it would have dampen my mood. There flaws bu overall I liked it quiet well.

    I've because a massive fan of Angelababy, she was really awkward at the start but eventually got better and I was quiet pleased with her by the end.

    This is almost the first time I've seen her act, the last and only time was in Alls Wells Ends Well 2010 where she was the stuttering princess, whom I like a lot because was pretty and funny. Her, Ronald Ng, Louis Koo and Crystal Tin were the only characters I liked in that movie. I did hear a lot about her bad acting over the years but never watched so didn't have any preconceived notions before I started General and I, she's seriously not as bad as people make her out to be. The amount of hate she gets for just existing though...wow.

    Her chemistry with Wallace is the best I've seen from him, I've tried more of his dramas before. Wallace to me had always been someone who has better chemistry with other men and he himself tends to carry majority of the relationship in his dramas, I've always felt this was him not connecting to his partner on a personal level.

    With Angelababy he seemed to be mkre at eased from the behind the scene they released, I heard them speak Cantonese to each other and remembered how Wallace said on The Amazing Race that he was more comfortable in cantonese since he was from Hong Kong. I wonder if that's why he seemed more at ease with Angelababy who can speak Cantonese...or is it because she's married?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IloveMimiLo View Post
    Yeah I actually liked He Xia's death too. I think Sean Sun did a fantastic job being the villian! I am okay with the ending , but I wished they show more of what happened to the other members as well. Instead of showing the flashback, they should of done a flashforward with narrating! But it is what it is! I still really enjoy this drama , the cast, cinematography and storyline. Yes the series is not without flaw, but it still to me consider one of the better ones out there! I actually followed it live and very passionately as well! Was always a wallace fan, but not I am more of a fangirl lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda View Post
    I hear a lot of bad publicity about this drama after I finished it. I'm glad I didn't read about before I watched the drama because it would have dampen my mood. There flaws bu overall I liked it quiet well.

    I've because a massive fan of Angelababy, she was really awkward at the start but eventually got better and I was quiet pleased with her by the end.

    This is almost the first time I've seen her act, the last and only time was in Alls Wells Ends Well 2010 where she was the stuttering princess, whom I like a lot because was pretty and funny. Her, Ronald Ng, Louis Koo and Crystal Tin were the only characters I liked in that movie. I did hear a lot about her bad acting over the years but never watched so didn't have any preconceived notions before I started General and I, she's seriously not as bad as people make her out to be. The amount of hate she gets for just existing though...wow.

    Her chemistry with Wallace is the best I've seen from him, I've tried more of his dramas before. Wallace to me had always been someone who has better chemistry with other men and he himself tends to carry majority of the relationship in his dramas, I've always felt this was him not connecting to his partner on a personal level.

    With Angelababy he seemed to be mkre at eased from the behind the scene they released, I heard them speak Cantonese to each other and remembered how Wallace said on The Amazing Race that he was more comfortable in cantonese since he was from Hong Kong. I wonder if that's why he seemed more at ease with Angelababy who can speak Cantonese...or is it because she's married?!
    Hi Linda

    Yes, I've read a couple of negative reviews on this drama and 'heard' of the bad publicity particularly about AB's acting, not following the novel and the excessive use of green screen. I have to say I disagree with all of it except the last one.

    I have only seen AB once in Rise of The Legend with Eddie Peng. As it was a movie and she was not in the starring role, she didn't have a lot of screen time. I thought she was alright. So i didn't think one way or another about her acting before I started watching this drama. AB was absolutely stunning in this drama, perhaps that's why some viewers were more focused on her looks than anything else. I think she did just fine. She brought out the gentleness and coquettishness of BPT's character.

    I have started reading the translated novel (thank you, moonbunnycafe.com) and am up to the planning of the final battle with He Xia. Yes, the drama deviated from the novel here and there. I think it is quite impossible or very difficult to accurately follow the novel (it would have to be more than 62 episodes then!). I personally prefer the drama. Yes, they could have tweaked it a little by cutting back on the war/battle scenes, 1 or 2 episodes, and use that time for the ending giving the viewers some sort of closure with the other characters.

    The usage of green screens was VERY distracting, the only flaw and a big one at that, in this drama.

    I agree with you Linda on Wallace's ease with AB. AB spent part of her growing up years in HKG and they have worked together on a reality show before, plus the director of this drama is also from HKG. Perhaps this familiarity between them might have 'gelled' them and helped to produce the great chemistry between Wallace and AB.

    One last thing (sorry, I'm so long-winded) . The chemistry between Tiffany Tang and Wallace was quite 'off' in My Sunshine. She seemed odd in that drama. In fact, she appeared to cringe in the intimate scenes. I caught one of the behind the scenes of My Sunshine ep20 (I think), where Yichen thought Mosheng was gong to leave him again (the struggling on the couch scene). After filming, Tiffany jumped up shouting "You scared me to death!/吓死我了!"
    I was thinking if that's why she appeared awkward in the show because her discomfort was evident throughout the drama! I enjoyed the drama and Wallace's great acting (of course), but wished it could have been somebody else playing Mosheng
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    Quote Originally Posted by EPFan View Post
    Hi Linda

    Yes, I've read a couple of negative reviews on this drama and 'heard' of the bad publicity particularly about AB's acting, not following the novel and the excessive use of green screen. I have to say I disagree with all of it except the last one.

    I have only seen AB once in Rise of The Legend with Eddie Peng. As it was a movie and she was not in the starring role, she didn't have a lot of screen time. I thought she was alright. So i didn't think one way or another about her acting before I started watching this drama. AB was absolutely stunning in this drama, perhaps that's why some viewers were more focused on her looks than anything else. I think she did just fine. She brought out the gentleness and coquettishness of BPT's character.

    I have started reading the translated novel (thank you, moonbunnycafe.com) and am up to the planning of the final battle with He Xia. Yes, the drama deviated from the novel here and there. I think it is quite impossible or very difficult to accurately follow the novel (it would have to be more than 62 episodes then!). I personally prefer the drama. Yes, they could have tweaked it a little by cutting back on the war/battle scenes, 1 or 2 episodes, and use that time for the ending giving the viewers some sort of closure with the other characters.

    The usage of green screens was VERY distracting, the only flaw and a big one at that, in this drama.

    I agree with you Linda on Wallace's ease with AB. AB spent part of her growing up years in HKG and they have worked together on a reality show before, plus the director of this drama is also from HKG. Perhaps this familiarity between them might have 'gelled' them and helped to produce the great chemistry between Wallace and AB.

    One last thing (sorry, I'm so long-winded) . The chemistry between Tiffany Tang and Wallace was quite 'off' in My Sunshine. She seemed odd in that drama. In fact, she appeared to cringe in the intimate scenes. I caught one of the behind the scenes of My Sunshine ep20 (I think), where Yichen thought Mosheng was gong to leave him again (the struggling on the couch scene). After filming, Tiffany jumped up shouting "You scared me to death!/吓死我了!"
    I was thinking if that's why she appeared awkward in the show because her discomfort was evident throughout the drama! I enjoyed the drama and Wallace's great acting (of course), but wished it could have been somebody else playing Mosheng
    Woo hoo anothet g an i fan! Love love this series to this day heh. Agree there was lots of hold back between tiffany and wallace. But i feel she is like that with all her male costar. She is a safe actress so its her style.

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    Linda i heard he is known as a good kisser in the industry. When Angelababy baby heard that he was going to be cbj she looked up his kissing vids lol

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    Angelababy was at the Mid-autumn festival gala, but didn't sing


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    GORGEOUS hair, Angelababy!

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