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    We know that ZM took the Book of Wumu and the 9 Yin manual from ZZR.
    If there is no 18 Dragon Palm manual, could this mean:
    1. It is still in Peach Blossom Island?
    2. It is still in Emei?
    3. It is still with ZZR?

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    The coming ZM looks good. Though as pretty as Kitty Lai. Hopefully, she fights very well like Li Yitong in LOCH.


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    How's about ZZR? Will she outshine her teacher, who was ZZR in 1994?

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    Nice to have a photo of ZM and ZZR side-by-side. They do look like sisters. Will fate change if they are really sisters?

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    red flower and white flower.... hm...
    anyone remember what color is the flower in Green Liu Villa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    red flower and white flower.... hm...
    anyone remember what color is the flower in Green Liu Villa?
    Red roses = I love you.
    White roses = I am thinking of you.
    https://www.proflowers.com/blog/rose...s-and-meanings

    Waterlily in Green Villa. "The colors are just as varied, ranging from yellow, pink, red, white, purple, blue and orange." https://theponddigger.com/water-lilies/

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    wow u know alot about flower, i admire

    this HSDS 2018 is approach closer n closer , the first episode would be aired before 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    wow u know alot about flower, i admire

    this HSDS 2018 is approach closer n closer , the first episode would be aired before 2019
    Actually I do not. just google. haha.

    a_t: I was watching the last 2 episodes of 2009 HSDS. ZZR mentioned to ZWJ, "If I was bought to Wudang instead of being sent to Emei, ..." - was this also stated in the novel? I tried searching the wuxiasociety english translation, but cannot find it. Actually, too lazy to do a thorough search. So, can you remember?

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    yes, it was

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    Update of questions I have:
    1. We know that ZM took the Book of Wumu and the 9 Yin manual from ZZR.
    If there is no 18 Dragon Palm manual, could this mean:
    (a) It is still in Peach Blossom Island?
    (b) It is still in Emei?
    (c) It is still with ZZR?

    2. What's the point of carrying the broken sword and sabre to Shaolin? Unless ZZR is afraid that someone infiltrate Emei during her absence and found the broken equipment?

    3. How did wulin (e.g. Ming cult and Wudang) come to know of ZWJ and ZZR's engagement? XX and ZZR are captured when they are back to mainland. ZWJ did not reveal a certain word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Update of questions I have:
    1. We know that ZM took the Book of Wumu and the 9 Yin manual from ZZR.
    If there is no 18 Dragon Palm manual, could this mean:
    (a) It is still in Peach Blossom Island?
    (b) It is still in Emei?
    (c) It is still with ZZR?

    2. What's the point of carrying the broken sword and sabre to Shaolin? Unless ZZR is afraid that someone infiltrate Emei during her absence and found the broken equipment?

    3. How did wulin (e.g. Ming cult and Wudang) come to know of ZWJ and ZZR's engagement? XX and ZZR are captured when they are back to mainland. ZWJ did not reveal a certain word.
    1. there was no mention about 18 dragon palm manual at all in 3rd edition
    2. ZZR never carry the broken sword and sabre to shaolin, she just left them in no-name island (where she and wuji n xx lived)
    3. i think there was no statement indicate that wulin knew , wulin only knew after wuji propose to zzr

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    1. there was no mention about 18 dragon palm manual at all in 3rd edition
    2. ZZR never carry the broken sword and sabre to shaolin, she just left them in no-name island (where she and wuji n xx lived)
    3. i think there was no statement indicate that wulin knew , wulin only knew after wuji propose to zzr
    1. Hmm. Only two manuals? Wumu and Nine-Yin. Guo Jing did not hide the 18 dragon palm manual in Peach Blossom Island?
    2. Isn't it zwj who got back the two broken weapons? How did zwj/ming cult know where zzr hide the two broken weapons?
    3. Got it.

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    Another question:
    Does Yin-er know that ZZR is the one responsible for everything?
    Is it mentioned how Yin-er manage to come back to mainland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    1. Hmm. Only two manuals? Wumu and Nine-Yin. Guo Jing did not hide the 18 dragon palm manual in Peach Blossom Island?
    2. Isn't it zwj who got back the two broken weapons? How did zwj/ming cult know where zzr hide the two broken weapons?
    3. Got it.
    Wumu , 9-yin, Huang Yaoshi martial arts, and Hong Qigong martial arts.
    both HYS and HQG have so many martial arts, not only one or two, so we dont know what kind of martial arts they put in the peach blossom island, i dont know why Jin Yong gave a vague information regarding this (unlike the 2nd edition novel which gave a clear information). plus there was no mention about it anymore after this. so no clue what ZZR did with their martial arts manual.

    i think u need to check my previous post (http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthre...8#.W_KCmTgzZ0w) ,
    after the Lion-Slaying ceremony event, Yellow Dressed Maiden told everything to ZWJ, then ZWJ asked one of ming cult banner to retrieve the fragment of broken sabre+sword .
    YDM was the descendant of Yang Guo, and know the secret behind the sabre and sword, she forced zzr to tell everything including where she buried the broken sabre+sword.


    Another question:
    Does Yin-er know that ZZR is the one responsible for everything?
    jb. yes

    Is it mentioned how Yin-er manage to come back to mainland?
    jb. no

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    Does anyone actually know when this series will start airing?

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    Thanks, a_t.

    So, we do not know what ZZR bought back from Peach Blossom Island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Thanks, a_t.

    So, we do not know what ZZR bought back from Peach Blossom Island?
    nope...
    what we sure is only 9-Yin (later stole by Zhao Min) ,and Wumu war manual (gave to Wuji, then Wuji gave to Xu Da)
    and also the iron plate (that engraved guide to peach blossom, later taken by yellow dress maiden by force)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Somehow, I am not convinced how ZZR figured out that XX knew her misdeeds.
    I don't remember which edition it was that I read, but it's the one translated here at SPCNET. It was revealed at the end of the book in XX's drawing in the dungeon that ZZR attacked him from the back when they were in the (inn?). And that was how the beggar people were able to capture XX. So there's no question ZZR knows that XX knows her misdeeds. As EdenResident mentioned, XX knew about her misdeeds since they were at the island. He could hear everything that was going on. He feigned ignorance for survival purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dictionary View Post
    I don't remember which edition it was that I read, but it's the one translated here at SPCNET. It was revealed at the end of the book in XX's drawing in the dungeon that ZZR attacked him from the back when they were in the (inn?). And that was how the beggar people were able to capture XX. So there's no question ZZR knows that XX knows her misdeeds. As EdenResident mentioned, XX knew about her misdeeds since they were at the island. He could hear everything that was going on. He feigned ignorance for survival purpose.
    Thanks, dictionary. Not sure whether all these happened in the third edition. a_t will have to confirm.
    Based on the 2009 series, all these did not happen:
    1. ZZR was captured by Beggar Union, hence XX had no choice but to be captured.
    2. No drawings in the dungeon when zm and zzr went down.
    3. ZZR was quite determined to kill off XX. Failing to kill him by herself, she did earlier arranged for an Emei disciple to "kill" XX.
    4. XX did noted that he knew all the evils committed by ZZR.
    5. ZWJ did noted that he has questions to ask XX, but no chance as the latter has decided to become a monk.

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    actually i have explained it before in here: http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthre...=1#post1147419

    the drawing on the wall by XX in dungeon only appear on 2nd edition book (probably 1st ed too but i never read it), JY removed it from 3rd edition .
    but its not related to how ZZR figured out XX already knew the secret, first , the story was after the lion-slaying ceremony event (so it's after ZZR tried to kill XX) , secondly, the one who went inside hole/dungeon to check were Wuji and ZM , not ZZR

    actually i like how Jin Yong revised the story, XX is not a literature type person , plus there was no equipment to engrave , but of course that make the story even vaguer

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