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    Default Duan Zhengchun vs Ding Chunqiu

    How formidable are Duan Zhengchun the Prince of and the younger brother of Emperor of Dali and Ding Chunqiu the Old Freak of Xingxiu sect? Who would win a 1:1 fight between the two?

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    Ding Chunqiu was a bit stronger than Murong Fu while Duan Zhengchun + 3rd Evil not strong enough to defeat Murong Fu so that's mean Ding Chunqiu > Duan Zhengchun..

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    Now what about Emperor Baoding (Deun Jing Ming) vs. Ding Chun Chou? This should be a much better fight.

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    "Straight fight" perhaps Duan Zhengmin might win..

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    I think in a straight up "fair" 1 on 1 fight, Duan Zheng Ming would win. (in terms of skill/internal lv)

    However, in a situation where Ding Chun Qiu can grab some sacrifical bystanders for his corpse poison skills, or resort to some other trickery, it's not impossible for him to edge out a victory.

    LV 65: Duan Zheng Ming (TL)
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu (TL)
    LV 60: Murong Fu (TL)
    LV 45: Duan Zheng Chun (TL)
    LV 40: The 3 Evils (TL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuxiaMaster View Post
    I think in a straight up "fair" 1 on 1 fight, Duan Zheng Ming would win. (in terms of skill/internal lv)

    However, in a situation where Ding Chun Qiu can grab some sacrifical bystanders for his corpse poison skills, or resort to some other trickery, it's not impossible for him to edge out a victory.

    LV 65: Duan Zheng Ming (TL)
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu (TL)
    LV 60: Murong Fu (TL)
    LV 45: Duan Zheng Chun (TL)
    LV 40: The 3 Evils (TL)
    I think Lv 40 for 3rd Evil seems too high perhaps around Lv 35-38..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuxiaMaster View Post
    I think in a straight up "fair" 1 on 1 fight, Duan Zheng Ming would win. (in terms of skill/internal lv)

    However, in a situation where Ding Chun Qiu can grab some sacrifical bystanders for his corpse poison skills, or resort to some other trickery, it's not impossible for him to edge out a victory.

    LV 65: Duan Zheng Ming (TL)
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu (TL)
    LV 60: Murong Fu (TL)
    LV 45: Duan Zheng Chun (TL)
    LV 40: The 3 Evils (TL)
    Duan Zhengming would definitely beat Ding Chunqiu. Ding Chunqiu was roughly on par with/just a bit stronger than Murong Fu, while Duan Yanqing clowned Murong Fu + his three henchmen at the same time. In turn, when Duan Zhengming faced off against Duan Yanqing early on in DGSD, Duan Yanqing admitted that Duan Zhengming would beat him in an actual fight. As DYQ put it, even though he had a slightly higher level of mastery than DZM, DZM would still beat him due to DYQ being a cripple.

    Interestingly enough, I wouldn't rate Duan Zhengchun that low (although he's definitely below Ding Chunqiu). In the battle between him and Murong Fu, Murong Fu thought to himself that he was much more dangerous than the Divine Croc and thus focused almost all of his efforts on fighting Duan Zhengchun, while just using whatever spare energy he had left to fob off the croc. Duan Yanqing himself also noted that Duan Zhengchun was being too aggressive and not using Yiyangzi correctly due to his desperation in wanting to rescue his son. Duan Zhengchun was distracted when his attack was redirected to hit the Divine Croc, and Murong Fu used that opportunity to seal one of Duan Zhengchun's acupoints.

    I would readjust the rating like this:

    LV 67: Duan Zhengming
    LV 65: Duan Yanqing
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu
    LV 60: Murong Fu
    LV 55: Duan Zheng Chun
    LV 50: Second Evil
    LV 45: Third Evil
    LV 40: Fourth Evil
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    Thanks for the input, I'll take that into consideration. I think DZC should definitely be more than 5LV lower than MRF though.

    Was there that much differences between the 3 smaller evils? I always thought they were pretty much equal/very close, especially from 2nd and 3rd evil fighting over who should be 2nd place (it kind of imply they're closely match in terms of power?). For 4th evil, he's kinda like Green Bat from Ming Sect 4 Guardians. Slightly weaker in terms of skills/internal, but better in speed/agility than the other 2.

    I don't think we have actually see them fought each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Wo Xing View Post
    Duan Zhengming would definitely beat Ding Chunqiu. Ding Chunqiu was roughly on par with/just a bit stronger than Murong Fu, while Duan Yanqing clowned Murong Fu + his three henchmen at the same time. In turn, when Duan Zhengming faced off against Duan Yanqing early on in DGSD, Duan Yanqing admitted that Duan Zhengming would beat him in an actual fight. As DYQ put it, even though he had a slightly higher level of mastery than DZM, DZM would still beat him due to DYQ being a cripple.

    Interestingly enough, I wouldn't rate Duan Zhengchun that low (although he's definitely below Ding Chunqiu). In the battle between him and Murong Fu, Murong Fu thought to himself that he was much more dangerous than the Divine Croc and thus focused almost all of his efforts on fighting Duan Zhengchun, while just using whatever spare energy he had left to fob off the croc. Duan Yanqing himself also noted that Duan Zhengchun was being too aggressive and not using Yiyangzi correctly due to his desperation in wanting to rescue his son. Duan Zhengchun was distracted when his attack was redirected to hit the Divine Croc, and Murong Fu used that opportunity to seal one of Duan Zhengchun's acupoints.

    I would readjust the rating like this:

    LV 67: Duan Zhengming
    LV 65: Duan Yanqing
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu
    LV 60: Murong Fu
    LV 55: Duan Zheng Chun
    LV 50: Second Evil
    LV 45: Third Evil
    LV 40: Fourth Evil
    Wooooww that's mean Ye Erniang (2nd Evil) stronger than Li Mochou and Duan Zhenming stronger than LOCH Guo Jing☺️☺️☺️☺️

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuxiaMaster View Post
    Thanks for the input, I'll take that into consideration. I think DZC should definitely be more than 5LV lower than MRF though.

    Was there that much differences between the 3 smaller evils? I always thought they were pretty much equal/very close, especially from 2nd and 3rd evil fighting over who should be 2nd place (it kind of imply they're closely match in terms of power?). For 4th evil, he's kinda like Green Bat from Ming Sect 4 Guardians. Slightly weaker in terms of skills/internal, but better in speed/agility than the other 2.

    I don't think we have actually see them fought each other.
    You are probably right, it's probably a 2 or 3 lvl difference between the three evils. Let's say 47, 45, 43.

    RE Duan Zhengchun, to me a 5 lvl difference = can last a bit in a fight while being at a distinct disadvantage. I think Duan Yanqing's performance against MRF+3 flunkies was quite similar to MRF's performance against Duan Zhengchun + Divine Croc, which is why I put both at a 5 lvl difference. DYQ did better, but DZC had a 'debuff' in the way he was fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Wooooww that's mean Ye Erniang (2nd Evil) stronger than Li Mochou and Duan Zhenming stronger than LOCH Guo Jing☺️☺️☺️☺️
    I actually think so, yes, wrt Duan Zhengming and Guo Jing. I view Duan Zhengming as being a quasi-equivalent of LOCH Yideng, and remember he DID master one of the strokes of 6MSJ.

    As for 2nd/3rd evil, it was always the Divine Croc who wanted to be known as the second evil, but he never could successfully seize the title, and it never seemed as though Ye Erniang thought of him as a real threat.
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    Well if Duan Zhengmin ~/= LOCH Yideng that's mean Kurong > LOCH Greats (including Wang Chongyang)..
    In terms if internal strenght perhaps Duan Zhengmin > LOCH Guo Jing but in combat/battle prowess I think Guo Jing is better just like pre 16 years Jinlun vs Heavy Sword Yang Guo

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    I would have DZM being roughly equivalent (maybe slightly weaker) than LOCH Yideng and Kurong being roughly equivalent (maybe slightly stronger). I don't think the difference between Kurong and DZM is that significant myself.
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