In DGSD, the Vulture Palace (Ling Jau Gung) subjugated a number of martial arts sects, including the Divine Farmer's Union and the Boundless Sword Sect. So terrifying were the martial arts and cruelty of the Palace's leader, the Child Elder (Teen San Tung Lo) and her Life/Death Talisman that a number of martial arts sects capitulated to the Vulture Palace when the Child Elder sent in her flunkies, without her needing to appear personally to win capitulation. Certainly, the likes of See Hung Yin (Chief of the Divine Farmer's Union) and Tzor Tze Muk (Sect Leader of the Eastern Boundless Sword Sect) lived in mortal terror of Vulture Palace, even though they had never laid eyes on the Child Elder or seen her powerful martial arts.
The Divine Farmer's Union and the Boundless Sword Sect, however, were small-time wulin organizations with weak martial arts and thus, their easy capitulation comes as no surprise. What if, however, the Vulture Palace had attempted to subjugate the Beggar's Union while Kiu Fung was still Union Chief? Could the Palace force the Beggar's Union's submission even if the Child Elder were to personally challenge Kiu Fung?