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    Been re-watching Legend of the Condor Heroes and was stuck by have similar these two characters were:

    Background:
    Both lost their fathers at a young age
    Both were abandoned/betrayed by their own people
    Both were raised by a strong willed single mother

    Personalty:
    Neither were book smart, but had natural affinity in their chosen field
    Both greatly values brotherhood and loyalty
    Both were fiercely patriotic

    Interaction with others:
    Both married very smart women who supported them in the background
    Both were betrayed by a sworn brother
    Both had a common enemy in the Jin

    Given all their similarities, would it be possible that Jin Yong took inspiration from the real life GK when he created GJ.

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    In some aspects, perhaps, though the historic (and fictional) Temujin was notoriously lacking in the compassion that was an integral part of Gwok Jing's character. From what I understand, Gwok Jing's character was more directly modeled on his hero Ngok Fei (Yue Fei).

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    Good points, MF. Could you explain how GJ was abandoned/betrayed by his own people? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Good points, MF. Could you explain how GJ was abandoned/betrayed by his own people? Thanks.
    Gwok Jing and his mother were driven from their native homeland into the hinterlands of Mongolia by troops who were their own countrymen (Sung military officer Deun Teen Dak and his troops).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Gwok Jing and his mother were driven from their native homeland into the hinterlands of Mongolia by troops who were their own countrymen (Sung military officer Deun Teen Dak and his troops).
    All right. Own corrupted country people.
    Genghis Khan could be worse. Father's "foster" brothers and friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    In some aspects, perhaps, though the historic (and fictional) Temujin was notoriously lacking in the compassion that was an integral part of Gwok Jing's character. From what I understand, Gwok Jing's character was more directly modeled on his hero Ngok Fei (Yue Fei).
    Not sure I would use the word compassionate to describe Yue Fei. Remember his poem about 'slating his thirst on barbarian blood and satisfying his hunger on nomadic flesh'. Rousing yes, compassionate not really.

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    I think Guo Jing was modeled after general YangYe, more so than YueFei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenResident View Post
    I think Guo Jing was modeled after general YangYe, more so than YueFei.
    Do we have any info on Yang Ye? I know his wife famously lead the female members of his family in war and the legend of his seven sons, but was there ever any info about his background?

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    The strange thing is that GJ defend Xiangyang on his own initiative and not appointed by the court. He is no court official.
    By right, that can be considered a rebellion by the Sung court.

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    One of Genghis's famous generals, who was involved in the campaign which destroyed the Jin state and later went to war in the Middle East, was in fact a Han Chinese surnamed Guo - Guo Kan.

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