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  • Kiu Fung

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  • Yau Tan Tze

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  • North Beggar Hung 7 Gung

    1 25.00%
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Thread: Who was the best Beggar's Union Chief (e.g. actual administrator/leader)?

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    Default Who was the best Beggar's Union Chief (e.g. actual administrator/leader)?

    If we were to rank the Beggar's Union Chiefs in Jin Yong's canon by martial arts, then the greatest Chief would undoubtedly be Kiu Fung, followed closely by North Beggar Hung 7 Gung. Even in wulin, however, being a good leader means more than simply being the best martial artist. Great martial artists are not necessarily the best organizational administrators.

    When it comes to actual, day-to-day management of Beggar's Union affairs, which of the featured Chiefs do you think did the best job, setting aside personal martial arts abilities?

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    Everybody seemed to be united under Wang Jiantong compared to any other leader where someone in the union would be scheming to do something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    Everybody seemed to be united under Wang Jiantong compared to any other leader where someone in the union would be scheming to do something.
    Forgot to make an entry for him, possibly because we never actually "saw" Chief Wong, but only know about his reputation based on others' recollections of him.

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    H7G - in real life, it is never easy to manage two different groups - Dirty and Clean clans. Think about any US President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    H7G - in real life, it is never easy to manage two different groups - Dirty and Clean clans. Think about any US President.
    By that same token, however, some might criticize Hung 7 Gung for allowing the whole Dirty/Clean Factions schism to happen under his watch in the first place. After all, we never hear about this problem during the administrations of the other Chiefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    By that same token, however, some might criticize Hung 7 Gung for allowing the whole Dirty/Clean Factions schism to happen under his watch in the first place. After all, we never hear about this problem during the administrations of the other Chiefs.
    Lu Youjiao deserves a lot of credit, as he practically managed the Clan during the "leadership" of Huang Rong. If things ran smoothly during her time as leader, it was due to Lu Youjiao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    By that same token, however, some might criticize Hung 7 Gung for allowing the whole Dirty/Clean Factions schism to happen under his watch in the first place. After all, we never hear about this problem during the administrations of the other Chiefs.
    I don't think he had the union under control and allowed the split / division to go on. I think by WY time, division had disappeared because she sorted the mess out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    Lu Youjiao deserves a lot of credit, as he practically managed the Clan during the "leadership" of Huang Rong. If things ran smoothly during her time as leader, it was due to Lu Youjiao.
    I can agree with this. For much of Wong Yung's administration, she was an absentee Chief. The day-to-day operations were mostly in Lo Yau Gerk's hands for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    I don't think he had the union under control and allowed the split / division to go on. I think by WY time, division had disappeared because she sorted the mess out?
    Yes. I think even Hung 7 Gung himself admitted that he had failed as Union Chief because he let the factionalism go on for too long (he didn't put his foot down to stamp it out).

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