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    Not sure if such a scene took place in the LOCH novel, but in LOCH '82, there was a moment when, in a fit of pique, East Heretic Wong Yerk See briefly threatened to murder Princess Hua Jeng and Prince Tolui of the Mongol Empire. Fortunately, Wong Yung was able to talk her father down from such a rash act, but imagine if Wong Yerk See actually did go through with murdering the Mongolian princess and prince?

    Genghis Khan probably loved these two children more than his others, particularly his fourth and youngest son Tolui. If the Khan found out that East Heretic had murdered his children, would he have dedicated all the resources of his empire into hunting down and killing Wong Yerk See for revenge? Could even all the resources of the Mongol Empire have succeeded in hunting down and killing Wong Yerk See? Even if Wong Yerk See could evade the Mongols, would he need to spend the rest of his life in hiding (well, that wasn't too different from how he lived his life anyway, I suppose)?

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    Well YG even kill the Khan (Mongke) but no one seek him for "revenge"😛😛😛😛

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    Mongols would threat Song to kill or capture Huang Yaoshi, if not they will invade Song.
    Huang Yaoshi wont hide, as he is a very proud type person , he may hide in peach blossom island but he refuse to do so,
    then after some killing-spree to Song Soldiers, he would eventually got captured or killed , because in Jin Yong's story , one man cannot stand against a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Not sure if such a scene took place in the LOCH novel, but in LOCH '82, there was a moment when, in a fit of pique, East Heretic Wong Yerk See briefly threatened to murder Princess Hua Jeng and Prince Tolui of the Mongol Empire. Fortunately, Wong Yung was able to talk her father down from such a rash act, but imagine if Wong Yerk See actually did go through with murdering the Mongolian princess and prince?

    Genghis Khan probably loved these two children more than his others, particularly his fourth and youngest son Tolui. If the Khan found out that East Heretic had murdered his children, would he have dedicated all the resources of his empire into hunting down and killing Wong Yerk See for revenge? Could even all the resources of the Mongol Empire have succeeded in hunting down and killing Wong Yerk See? Even if Wong Yerk See could evade the Mongols, would he need to spend the rest of his life in hiding (well, that wasn't too different from how he lived his life anyway, I suppose)?
    You think too little of Genghis if you think he would react this way. We are talking about a man who survived being abandoned in one of the harshest inhabitable environments in the world. Who lived through slavery and the humiliation of having his principal wife kidnapped. He would never jeopardize a vital alliance with the Song, or waste valuable resources, even over the lives of his children. Instead I see him continuing his diplomatic overtures to the Song, while nursing his vengeance against WYS until he was in more advantageous position. Only then would he exact his revenge.

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    Capture HR and make her a Mongol slave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Capture HR and make her a Mongol slave.
    Unfortunately, GK does not have the ability to capture WY or WYS. If WYS killed HJ and TL then it would be great for humanity. Countless innocent lives would be saved. Li Ping would not die in Mongolia and will be able to move back to her hometown in Ox village.

    LOCH2017 is pretty decent but not as good as LOCH82.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Unfortunately, GK does not have the ability to capture WY or WYS. If WYS killed HJ and TL then it would be great for humanity. Countless innocent lives would be saved. Li Ping would not die in Mongolia and will be able to move back to her hometown in Ox village.

    LOCH2017 is pretty decent but not as good as LOCH82.
    I don't remember HJ causing the death of countless innocents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandred Skavenslayer View Post
    I don't remember HJ causing the death of countless innocents?
    GK killed millions of innocent people including men, women, children including babies. HJ caused the death of Li Ping, someone who always nice to her and treated her like a daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    GK killed millions of innocent people including men, women, children including babies. HJ caused the death of Li Ping, someone who always nice to her and treated her like a daughter.
    And how would killing GK's children save those millions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandred Skavenslayer View Post
    And how would killing GK's children save those millions?
    Tolui is a general commander leading a large army attacking many countries. He contributes to all the killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Tolui is a general commander leading a large army attacking many countries. He contributes to all the killing.
    Could save a lot of Chinese lives if you assassinate the Chinese general leading the invasion of northern China. Or even whichever individual it was who made the decision to turn on their allies. Wouldn't it be better to remove the casus belli provided by China?

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    GJ will seek revenge and lose. HR will beg HYS to spare GJ. GJ will not be able to marry HR, instead marries MNC. HR will be forced by HYS to marry OYK.

    GJ's son Guo Guo will seek revenge for GJ but falls in love with HR's daughter Ou Yang Xiang.

    In the end, HYS will die of old age because Genghis Khan always and only cared about taking over all the land. Didnt seem like he cared about his sons and daughters much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNaR View Post
    GJ will seek revenge and lose. HR will beg HYS to spare GJ. GJ will not be able to marry HR, instead marries MNC. HR will be forced by HYS to marry OYK.

    GJ's son Guo Guo will seek revenge for GJ but falls in love with HR's daughter Ou Yang Xiang.

    In the end, HYS will die of old age because Genghis Khan always and only cared about taking over all the land. Didnt seem like he cared about his sons and daughters much.
    Long before Ouyang Xiang was born, Guo Guo had already fallen in love with Gu Gu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    Long before Ouyang Xiang was born, Guo Guo had already fallen in love with Gu Gu.
    oh man if Guo Guo somehow find his way to Gu Gu in this alternate universe.... gonna need HYS to kill MNC as well
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    In the end, all died.
    Please close this thread.

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