Until Cheung Mo Gei became the Cult Leader and led the Ming Cult through several major acts of heroism, the Ming Cult's reputation in wulin was terrible. It's true that many of its members weren't angels. Yeung Siu committed what amounted to date rape on Gei Hiu Fu. Wai 1 Siu sucked people's blood dry. Yan Teen Jing could be quite ruthless in directing his children and Heavenly Eagle Sect minions in pursuing the Dragon Sabre. That said, they were not necessarily worse than some of the members of mainstream wulin sects such as Ngor Mei Sect, Kunlun Sect, and even Shaolin, who did equally despicable if not worse things. Did the Ming Cult overall deserve its bad reputation pre-Cheung Mo Gei?