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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    As to your response regarding SCN not repsonding to a naked PS, I find that unbelievable. All men will respond to a naked women no matter how calm they are cos they think with their bodies rather than their mind. Plus it is a natural reaction to be shocked when someone flashes you. They might not drool and fall onto their knees at the sight of a naked lady but there will always be a moment of hesitation and shock. If the woman is pretty, they might stare or even gawk. If the woman is ugly, they may vomit or curse. The man maight have no large reaction but a pause is almost guaranteed even if the man is not sexually interested in the woman.

    A good example is what would you do if an ugly old naked guy jumped out before you? What if it wasa naked Wallace? You won't ignore either of them and keep walking as if nother happened because it is so unbelievable that you have to have a second look just to make sure you are not daydreaming! You may decide to bash him with your umbrella later on but you will first pause and stare.
    OMG , I'm laughing so hard that I started coughing. Girl, you are just too funny. But I totally agree with your assessment. A beautiful woman herself will definitely have the element of surprise. SCN is also human. He might not like what he sees, but it will make him pause for seconds.

    On the other hand, Mel could reason that with SCN's superhuman abilities regarding other qualities, why not the immunity toward a naked Poison Snake? Hehe . It is more believable than people being able to fly around, kill with poison palm attacks, and weild invisible swords, but also vastly entertaining.
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    Thanks for your advice, charbydis and tweety. I'm not sure why I'm so disappointed with the last two chapters. It's just this gut feeling I have. This is the first time when I've rushed through a chapter to get to a certain point, rather than taking my leisurely time. And I don't like this feeling. I feel like my chapter is an unfinished product, incomplete and lacking. But you two are correct; rewriting the chapter would take too much time and be counterproductive. Besides, I'm not sure how many people have already read the new chapters, and it would be strange to suddenly produce two different new chapters as replacement. I will start working on filling in the details in future chapters. Hopefully, with the additional details, the SCN/Black Rose (BR) story will be more developed and enjoyable.

    Tweety, don't worry. Even though the SCN/BR story won't be told in one large block of chapters, there is still much to reveal on these two and their nemesis, Poison Snake (PS). Therefore, I will be revisiting their story, with romantic parts included. There will probably be less sensual material from here on, since I've apparently traumatized poor charbydis. Was it the tongue kissing, charbydis?

    I just want to clarify that I absolutely love your comments, you two! I am in no way offended by anything either one of you said, so please do not hold back in the future on my account. As I've told WhiteHairedMaiden, I'm rather thick-skinned. The honest feedback really helps, especially during times like this, when I really need advice on how to proceed.

    Regarding the description of the shadowless swords, I was worried a bit when I realized my description of the fight reminded you two of Dragonball and the Last Airbender. I don't watch as much TV as people think, so I have no clue who Dragonball is. I googled him afterward and realized he was some cute anime character. I also haven't seen the movie or the cartoon of the Last Airbender. Given that my intention is not to portray SCN as some cute cartoon, I have to admit I had some grave concerns upon hearing your confessions. But I'm relieved to know that the Airbender comparison was meant as a compliment. I don't know if you two have the same difficulty, but I find that writing fight scenes is very challenging. It's always not quite as exciting as seeing the fight in live action. But I've also imagined myself writing modern stories, and I don't think I would have as much fun.

    Ok, I've saved the funniest comment for last.
    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    As to your response regarding SCN not repsonding to a naked PS, I find that unbelievable. All men will respond to a naked women no matter how calm they are cos they think with their bodies rather than their mind. Plus it is a natural reaction to be shocked when someone flashes you. They might not drool and fall onto their knees at the sight of a naked lady but there will always be a moment of hesitation and shock. If the woman is pretty, they might stare or even gawk. If the woman is ugly, they may vomit or curse. The man maight have no large reaction but a pause is almost guaranteed even if the man is not sexually interested in the woman.

    A good example is what would you do if an ugly old naked guy jumped out before you? What if it was a naked Wallace? You won't ignore either of them and keep walking as if nother happened because it is so unbelievable that you have to have a second look just to make sure you are not daydreaming! You may decide to bash him with your umbrella later on but you will first pause and stare.
    Charbydis, you should have just come right out and asked me to picture Wallace Chung jumping out and flashing me. (But just have him flash me his upper body only, please. I don't need to see anything more. ) Then, I would not have misunderstood your question. I went back and re-read your post and realized I misinterpreted your question. I thought you were asking if SCN would lose in the fight if PR had flashed him and had thrown herself at him. My response would be "no," because while he would be momentarily shocked by her unexpected actions (as you so humorously pointed out ), he would recover quickly because he's an experienced fighter and she is not his type (as previously explained in my response). If they continue fighting, SCN would eventually win, whether or not PS is naked. (It would be a hilarious scene, though.) However, it is entirely possible that the split second of hesitation on SCN's part could buy PS some time to escape, which is what she would most likely do rather than throw herself at him. Running seems more appropriate, as that is the safer bet. Trying to seduce him is a riskier tactic, as there is no guarantee that he will fall for her seduction.

    Hmm...maybe I'll have Black Rose flash SCN when he catches up to her. Perhaps the few seconds of hesitation will buy her some time to run. What do you two think? Do you think BR is the type who would do that?

    By the way, does my explanation make sense regarding why BR escaped rather than wait for confirmation of PR's death?

    I'm still feeling kind of deflated because I feel like the chapters are such failures. I can't help this feeling, for some reason. Let's have a group hug. Perhaps I need to go out and buy some clothes to cheer myself up. Wanna come, tweety, since we live so close to each other? (Charbydis lives too far away so she can't join us, unfortunately.) By the way, I don't drink, so if you want exclusive previews to upcoming chapters, you'll have to take me to Disneyland.

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    Hey, I love Dragonball!

    Maybe SCN should flash PS in their next fight!
    Or evil Siu Han can flash Yik Lun and see how he reacts! :
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Perhaps I need to go out and buy some clothes to cheer myself up. Wanna come, tweety, since we live so close to each other? (Charbydis lives too far away so she can't join us, unfortunately.) By the way, I don't drink, so if you want exclusive previews to upcoming chapters, you'll have to take me to Disneyland.
    Tweety, just spike her drink and then lock her up in your cellar, chained to a desk and a computer so she keeps updating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I thought you were asking if SCN would lose in the fight if PR had flashed him and had thrown herself at him.
    Who is PR? Another new character? Poison Rat? Party Rag? Pansy Retard? Peter Rabbit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Charbydis, you should have just come right out and asked me to picture Wallace Chung jumping out and flashing me. (But just have him flash me his upper body only, please. I don't need to see anything more.)
    I'm not as picky as you. Wallace can flash me in whatever way he wants
    Gosh, I hope there are no readers under 18 here. Really, I'm not as perverted as I sound

    Charbydis, I don't think I need to resort to such tactic as spiking Mel's drink. I'm already a happy camper that Wallace/SFF has a mini story. See Mel, I'm really very easy to please. If you want her to speed up, just promise to include Wallace in your story. That will guarantee to get a positive reaction.

    Let me know when you are free, Mel. We can grab lunch or dinner

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Maybe SCN should flash PS in their next fight!
    Tweety would probably love the image of SCN/Wallace Chung thrusting his sword in his birthday suit, but can you sit through such a chapter, charbydis? If I really write such a chapter, then you have no one to blame but your own big mouth.

    Or evil Siu Han can flash Yik Lun and see how he reacts! :
    You know, I might just do that. I'm actually serious. Thanks for the suggestion.


    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Tweety, just spike her drink and then lock her up in your cellar, chained to a desk and a computer so she keeps updating.
    Then, I'll ony write SCN scenes just to irritate you, charbydis.


    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Who is PR? Another new character? Poison Rat? Party Rag? Pansy Retard? Peter Rabbit?
    Whoops, it's a typo. PR is suppose to be PS, as in Poison Snake.

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    Btw, where are you located, charbydis?

    Girl, where do you come up with these crazy ideas. If evil Siu Han Yik Lun, she doesn't even need to fight him. The poor chap will likely get a nose bleed and kneel at her feet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    I'm not as picky as you. Wallace can flash me in whatever way he wants
    Gosh, I hope there are no readers under 18 here. Really, I'm not as perverted as I sound
    I suspect charby is the perverted one here, tweety. Did you read what she wants me to do? She wants me to disrobe SCN and have him fight naked.

    Yeah, I hope there are no readers under 18 in here.

    Charbydis, I don't think I need to resort to such tactic as spiking Mel's drink. I'm already a happy camper that Wallace/SFF has a mini story. See Mel, I'm really very easy to please. If you want her to speed up, just promise to include Wallace in your story. That will guarantee to get a positive reaction.
    I like to please affable readers like tweety. I will give SCN some romance with BR.

    Charbydis has already respectfully and politely declined my request for her to add Wallace Chung to her story.

    Let me know when you are free, Mel. We can grab lunch or dinner
    Ok, my work schedule is pretty full in the next few weeks, but let's keep in touch via email. I want to meet my fellow Wallace lover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    Btw, where are you located, charbydis?
    Charby is from Austraila! That's why she has all these naughty suggestions; those Aussies...


    Girl, where do you come up with these crazy ideas. If evil Siu Han Yik Lun, she doesn't even need to fight him. The poor chap will likely get a nose bleed and kneel at her feet .
    Yes, he might get a nosebleed from the flashing but it sure will make his life more exciting. The poor dude is too proper right now. Sui Han needs to help him loosen up.

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    Would it work if the old woman flashed Yik Lun?

    It is so boring here in the clinic, have to do something fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Would it work if the old woman flashed Yik Lun?
    Which old woman are you referring to? I'm sure Yik Lun would not appreciate being flashed by anyone except Sui Han.

    It is so boring here in the clinic, have to do something fun.
    How's work? Meet any Andy lookalikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Which old woman are you referring to? I'm sure Yik Lun would not appreciate being flashed by anyone except Sui Han.
    The old woman who hangs around with Fei. Aren't they all in a fight in the cave at the moment? Yik Lun would probably drop dead on the spot if it happened, and if Gilbert is reading, he should be shaking his head like this and swearing that he will never take this role if it was offered to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    How's work? Meet any Andy lookalikes?
    The receptionists at work are putting all the blame on me for an unpredictable situation because I just took over as the acting head of a certain department. I am going to open fire tomorrow when I get to work and have time to quarrel! In such a bad mood that I don't feel like updating my fanfic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    The old woman who hangs around with Fei. Aren't they all in a fight in the cave at the moment?
    The old woman is dead. She got injured by Lam Siu Tin's Blood Shadow Palm. IIRC, he is almost done with level 3. The old man wanted to save her with the same method SCN used to save Black Rose. Mel did not reveal what that method is yet. My guess is that he sacrificed his life in some way to save his beautiful wifey and prove his love .

    Sorry to hear about the bad situation at work, charby. Hope the meeting goes well tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    The old woman is dead. She got injured by Lam Siu Tin's Blood Shadow Palm. IIRC, he is almost done with level 3. The old man wanted to save her with the same method SCN used to save Black Rose. Mel did not reveal what that method is yet. My guess is that he sacrificed his life in some way to save his beautiful wifey and prove his love .
    I'm impressed, tweety. You remember! By the way, you said something that is quite interesting. You said SCN may sacrifice his life in some way to prove to his wife that he loves her. With SCN's arrogant, tyrannical, and alpha male type of personality, do you think he feels that he needs to prove anything to anyone?

    Sorry to hear about the bad situation at work, charby. Hope the meeting goes well tomorrow
    Yes, sorry to hear about the situation at work, charbydis. I hope all goes well tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    The old woman is dead. She got injured by Lam Siu Tin's Blood Shadow Palm. IIRC, he is almost done with level 3. The old man wanted to save her with the same method SCN used to save Black Rose. Mel did not reveal what that method is yet. My guess is that he sacrificed his life in some way to save his beautiful wifey and prove his love .
    You know what would be freaky, if the old couple were actually BR and SCN 500 years later! :

    Oh Andy! Where is Andy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    You know what would be freaky, if the old couple were actually BR and SCN 500 years later! :
    No, that twist would be a bit too far reaching for me. But it doesn't mean that BR and SCN won't reincarnate into the sequel, just so I can hook tweety on the sequel. I'm not above using that trick to get myself a reader.

    Oh Andy! Where is Andy?
    Andy's gonna die in the story some way or other. You know he has to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I'm impressed, tweety. You remember! By the way, you said something that is quite interesting. You said SCN may sacrifice his life in some way to prove to his wife that he loves her. With SCN's arrogant, tyrannical, and alpha male type of personality, do you think he feels that he needs to prove anything to anyone?
    Hehe, you didn't think I pay attention to the details, but I do . Of course he has to prove to his bride that he loves her. How else will he gain her complete trust and heart? Assuming he wants his affections reciprocated. I'm sure he couldn't care less what others think of him, but Black Rose's opinion matters. Unfortunately for her, it is not enough to prevent him from forcing marriage on her though .

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    But it doesn't mean that BR and SCN won't reincarnate into the sequel, just so I can hook tweety on the sequel. I'm not above using that trick to get myself a reader.
    It doesn't work if you don't have Wallace and SFF together. The Wallace/Song Jia pairing isn't a strong enough bait.

    Charby's Bluey and psychopathic Lam Siu Tin will kick the bucket, but they're gonna take some of my fav couples with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    Charby's Bluey and psychopathic Lam Siu Tin will kick the bucket, but they're gonna take some of my fav couples with them
    That's my boys! My fav characters in the whole story!

    As for BR and SCN's story, all throughout last night, I couldn't help but think back to GSS when Han Yu Ting was raped by Green Shadow and then they got happily married and then died! Oh the precious memories come rushing back! I am so old now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety365 View Post
    Hehe, you didn't think I pay attention to the details, but I do
    Thanks for remembering.

    Of course he has to prove to his bride that he loves her. How else will he gain her complete trust and heart? Assuming he wants his affections reciprocated. I'm sure he couldn't care less what others think of him, but Black Rose's opinion matters. Unfortunately for her, it is not enough to prevent him from forcing marriage on her though.
    The type of love SCN feels for BR is not the selfless kind of love where he'll be happy as long as she is happy. SCN certainly wants BR to be happy and will do anything to make her happy, with only one exception; he won't set her free, even if she's unhappy being his wife. So the love SCN feels toward BR is not the love Yik Lun feels toward Sui Han, for example. It's just SCN's nature to take what he wants, even if the woman he wants doesn't want him. But as long as he has BR, he's willing to compromise on anything else. Also, when he first met BR, he didn't even love her at that point in time. He just saw an extremely beautiful woman and decided unilaterally that she was going to belong to him. In a way, he was indeed the barbarian that BR accused him of being when she first ran into him near the lake. All of the above explain why SCN doesn't feel any guilt for forcing himself on BR.



    It doesn't work if you don't have Wallace and SFF together. The Wallace/Song Jia pairing isn't a strong enough bait.
    Actually, I was thinking of having SFF and Wallace Chung reprise their roles as reincarnated lovers (with different names in the next life). It never occurred to me to replace SFF with Song Jia. SFF fits perfectly into the dainty, beautiful maiden role, I must say. She grew on me the minute I had her BR slap SCN around a few times in chapter 85.

    Charby's Bluey and psychopathic Lam Siu Tin will kick the bucket, but they're gonna take some of my fav couples with them
    Yeah, true. People are gonna kick the bucket soon... And then there was one less favorite couple.


    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    That's my boys! My fav characters in the whole story!
    You like bad boys as much as tweety and I do!

    As for BR and SCN's story, all throughout last night, I couldn't help but think back to GSS when Han Yu Ting was raped by Green Shadow and then they got happily married and then died! Oh the precious memories come rushing back! I am so old now!
    I remember Green Shadow as a stoic, brooding guy, but he wasn't as bad as SCN, nor was he as charming. In some ways, Green Shadow reminded me of Fu Hong Xue. Now that Wallace Chung is playing Fu Hong Xue, I've been scanning through the English translation of Tian Ya Ming Yue Dao, and I find Fu Hong Xue quite similar to your Green Shadow, minus the rape, of course. I don't think Fu Hong Xue raped anyone in the TYMYD novel.

    I was quite shocked by the rape, though. Although, I felt that by the time the rape occurred, Yu Ting already loved GS. That didn't excuse GS's actions, but it did explain why she forgave him so easily.

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