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    has anyone seen his new series "chinese divorce"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberry
    Is the female official worth watching? I got it free when I bought some other serials and have yet to watch it?
    I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard that it's quite good. You can check out a review of it here. If you do watch it, please let us know what you think!

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    has anyone seen his new series "chinese divorce"?
    I saw it recently and enjoyed it very much. I detailed a lot of my opinions on the characters and story in some posts on page 5 of this thread if you're interested.
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    Hi!

    Originally posted by Lady Zhuge
    I think one of her biggest mistakes was quitting her job as a teacher. I know she had to take on a greater load of responsibilities due to her husband's new job, but since SJP was making so much money now, she should have hired a maid or someone to help out around the house.
    Maybe quitting her job is a mistake but I suppose most females will become housewifes if their husbands are earning lots of money...this is to ensure that the household is well taken care off while the husband is busy working. Some people might not just feel too comfortable leaving their only child with a maid. However, females are actually advised not to quit their job no matter how high the income of their husbands are so that there will be financial backup in case they are divorced.
    I suppose if LXF did not change her perception about her husband having affairs with others, she will still be worrying about it although she might be busy teaching or doing something else. It just seems that this thought had already taken over her mind.

    Here's a few questions bout the series:
    1. Did SJP actually have an affair with JZ earlier or was it his wife who misunderstood him? I thought they were just colleagues. Why was he so afraid of his wife meeting JZ when they went for skiing?
    2. I thought that there was nothing between SJP and the neighbour. Didn't he just hug her at the party because he was drunk?
    Only watch bits of it... that's why I am confused at some parts. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    Maybe quitting her job is a mistake but I suppose most females will become housewifes if their husbands are earning lots of money...this is to ensure that the household is well taken care off while the husband is busy working. Some people might not just feel too comfortable leaving their only child with a maid. However, females are actually advised not to quit their job no matter how high the income of their husbands are so that there will be financial backup in case they are divorced.
    I suppose if LXF did not change her perception about her husband having affairs with others, she will still be worrying about it although she might be busy teaching or doing something else. It just seems that this thought had already taken over her mind.
    In today's society, the number of career women are on the climb, even if their husbands are earning a hefty sum. Someone like LXF definitely needs to maintain a job, not for the money, but for psychological health. Her son would be at school during the weekdays anyway, so I don't think that would be a problem. Also, in China, a lot of school-age children are left home alone (this is exemplified several times throughout the show), so if parents aren't worried about that, I doubt they'd be worried about their kid being taken care of by a housekeeper or babysitter. In addition, LXF's parents are retired, so they can always help to take care of the kid as well.
    While it's true that the false perception of her husband being unfaithful to her had already been planted in her mind even before she quit her job, I don't think that's the root of the problem. The root of the problem IMO is her perception of herself and that projects onto how she views what her husband thinks of her. At least when she had her job, she felt that she was contributing to the household income (she made more money than her husband when he was still at the first hospital) and she could feel good about herself in a rewarding job like teaching. When she quit her job, she no longer had that connection with society while her husband's was increasing by the day. That just made her feel inferior and she just assumed that that's how her husband looked at her too and misinterpreted all of his actions and words as such. If she at least took up a hobby or something, she might have been able to overcome this so-called mid-life crisis.

    The answers to both of your questions are connected.

    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    1. Did SJP actually have an affair with JZ earlier or was it his wife who misunderstood him? I thought they were just colleagues. Why was he so afraid of his wife meeting JZ when they went for skiing?

    2. I thought that there was nothing between SJP and the neighbour. Didn't he just hug her at the party because he was drunk?
    Only watch bits of it... that's why I am confused at some parts. Thanks!
    No, SJP never had an affair with JZ. What happened with the wedding party was that LXF got in a fight with SJP the night before and decided not to go with him. The next morning, SJP ran into the neighbor and he suggested that since she's interested in getting a job at that hospital, for her to go to the wedding party and he would introduce her to various people in order to establish some connections. She agreed to meet him at the party after her daughter's dance session.
    At the party, SJP (who usually never drinks any alcohol), was basically forced to drink 3 glasses in order to celebrate his "brother" LDB's marriage. He got really drunk and then the neighbor showed up looking for him. Everyone just assumed that she was his wife and they complimented her on her beauty and grace. The really drunk SJP didn't deny it and tried to kiss and hug her while they were dancing. SJP didn't want LXF to meet JZ because at the time of the ski trip, JZ still thought that the neighbor was his wife and you can imagine what might happen if LXF introduced herself to JZ as SJP's wife.
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    Lady Zhuge,

    I would do that, if I watch it. may not be anytime soon since I am watching other stuff

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    Hi!If leaving the child alone or with a maid is not a problem, then I guess that I agree with you that she should not have quit her job.
    Originally posted by Lady Zhuge
    At least when she had her job, she felt that she was contributing to the household income (she made more money than her husband when he was still at the first hospital) and she could feel good about herself in a rewarding job like teaching. When she quit her job, she no longer had that connection with society while her husband's was increasing by the day. That just made her feel inferior and she just assumed that that's how her husband looked at her too and misinterpreted all of his actions and words as such.
    Like you said, if she is working, she would feel as if she is contributing much and playing an important role in the family. She might think that there is no way her husband would want to find another woman. In contrast, she might feel herself not contributing much to the family after she quit her job. She might have lost her self-esteem and confidence, thus thinking that she is no match for the other women who are not only beautiful but who are working as well. Thus, she had the tendency to suspect that the husband might fall in love with these women, who in her opinion, are better than her.

    Thanks a lot for answering my questions! I hope you would not mind if I have a few more questions to ask you.

    1. Why did LDB quarrel with SJP? What makes him so angry until the extend of hurting SJP?
    2. What was the main event that would ultimately lead to SJP and LXF to seek divorce as the solution to their problem? Was it after LXF saw the recording of SJP hugging and kissing the neighbour at LDB's wedding? She was really mad at that and went immediately to confront the neighbour by the roadside without even bothering about the curious onlookers who were surrounding them. I watched only until that part.
    3. How would going to Xi Zhan for 3 years able to help him escape the horrific marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    Like you said, if she is working, she would feel as if she is contributing much and playing an important role in the family. She might think that there is no way her husband would want to find another woman. In contrast, she might feel herself not contributing much to the family after she quit her job. She might have lost her self-esteem and confidence, thus thinking that she is no match for the other women who are not only beautiful but who are working as well. Thus, she had the tendency to suspect that the husband might fall in love with these women, who in her opinion, are better than her.
    Yep, that is exactly what I was getting at. The more free time LXF had on her hands, the more maniacal she seemed to become. The really sad thing is that despite what she wanted to believe, SJP was a pretty decent husband who never cheated on her, even when she was driving him insane picking all those pointless fights, threatening him, and then later when she technically cheated on him on the internet. It amazed me how patient SJP was with her and that he never used the fact that he knew she was "cheating" against her in their arguments. It is truly unfortunate that LXF did not find a healthier outlet for her overactive imagination. She would have made a good fiction writer.

    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    Thanks a lot for answering my questions! I hope you would not mind if I have a few more questions to ask you.
    You're very welcome! As long as I have the time, I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have about this series. I hope you get a chance to watch all of it one day!

    1. Why did LDB quarrel with SJP? What makes him so angry until the extend of hurting SJP?
    I'm assuming that you're referring to the bar scene when LDB hit SJP over the head with a wine bottle? Frankly, I was shocked that he did that. That incident just further solidified my "what a jerk" attitude towards LDB.
    Anyway, he was so angry at SJP because he thought that JZ and SJP had some romance going on, since JZ did not deny that her secret crush was SJP when he questioned her about it. Of course this was all after JZ and LDB had already gotten a divorce and LDB had remarried, but LDB still loved JZ the most. Even though I think JZ did develop a crush on SJP, he never had any romantic feelings for her and there was never anything inappropriate going on between the two of them.

    2. What was the main event that would ultimately lead to SJP and LXF to seek divorce as the solution to their problem? Was it after LXF saw the recording of SJP hugging and kissing the neighbour at LDB's wedding? She was really mad at that and went immediately to confront the neighbour by the roadside without even bothering about the curious onlookers who were surrounding them. I watched only until that part.
    After seeing the videotape, LXF was extremely pissed off of course and then later got suspicious about SJP's ED problem. That was when she found out from a doctor that such a problem can be "cured" if the patient was with someone he felt physically attracted to and that just increased LXF's paranoia and insecurity about herself. The two of them seemed to patch up for a short while, but LXF just continued to be overly suspicious to the point where SJP had to hide out at work alot. SJP finally asked for a divorce after LXF started developing a "relationship" on the internet with another man (who was really LDB, and then later SJP himself, but she didn't know that until towards the end of the show). Anyway, LXF did not agree to the divorce (even though SJP promised to give her half his paycheck for the rest of his life) because she wanted to "punish him" for all the sinful things she assumed he'd done and she vowed to make his life miserable. At one point, she told SJP that if he would just apologize for what he did, she would forgive him, but he refused to do that because he didn't do anything wrong. That was so ironic, since she's the one who was being truly unfaithful. During that time, it was like she had bipolar or something. In the end, LXF finally came to her senses and agreed to the divorce in a poignant speech she gave at SJP's "farewell" party at the hospital (since he was going to Xi Zhan). I think she was especially touched by what she had overheard at the hospital in a conversation between SJP and JZ. He told JZ that the person he still cared about the most is Lin Xiao Feng. (Yes, even after everything that madwoman put him through! Wow, what a guy. ) That was really the best outcome for everyone, even though the last scene with LXF and SJP locked in a passionate kiss still made you think that there was still some hope for the relationship.

    3. How would going to Xi Zhan for 3 years able to help him escape the horrific marriage?
    SJP talked to a lawyer to see what would be legal grounds for a divorce if one party did not want the divorce. One way would be to bring evidence of cheating in the relationship, but print-outs from the internet would not qualify. Another way would be for a couple to live separately for several years and this is why SJP wanted to go to Xi Zhan for 3 years.
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    He's so hot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang
    He's so hot!
    Haha, I guess this thread is lacking in comments like that one.
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    Thanks a lot, Lady Zhuge!

    Originally posted by Lady Zhuge
    The last scene was melancholy. SJP and his soon-to-be ex-wife embraced in a passionate kiss as the camera zooms out while the background voiceover announces the final divorce agreement between the two of them and the sad bluesy music echoes to the show's conclusion.
    I did catch this very last part of this drama though because it was one of the clips available from www.chinacdm.net. Based on the reviews that I have read at www.tigercool.net, there seemed to be a mix reactions towards the ending. Some said that the ending was bad while others said that it was good. I guessed those who think that the ending was bad were actually hoping for a happy ending, that SJP and his wife would be able to solve all their differences and reconciled at the end. In reality, not all troubled marriages could be resolved and divorces would be the only way to walk out of them. Actually it all depends on one's own interpretations about what is good and bad. For example, you classified the ending as a happy one because by divorcing, SJP would be able to escape his horrific marriage but others might think differently.
    I like the ending scene too. There was little dialogue(As far as I could remember, SJP didn't even say a word, he just walked towards his wife and after looking into her eyes for a few minutes or so, embraced in a passionate kiss with her , just like what you have described). The actor and actress let their facial expressions do the talking instead. The colour tone of the background really blends well with the emotions at that time. At that moment, when they were kissing, I was actually hoping that there would be this tiny, last minute hope that they might realise they really did love each other so much that there might be a chance to get back together but this was not to be. I can't really catch the final divorce agreement though because the voice becomes softer and softer as the music gets louder. What actually happens to their child in the end? Who manages to gain custody of him?

    Originally posted by Zhuge Liang He's so hot!
    I didn't realise that this thread was lacking in comments such as this one(according to Lady Zhuge) because I would be more than happy to add such comments. Yeah, CDM is hot and cool and is a great actor too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    At that moment, when they were kissing, I was actually hoping that there would be this tiny, last minute hope that they might realise they really did love each other so much that there might be a chance to get back together but this was not to be. I can't really catch the final divorce agreement though because the voice becomes softer and softer as the music gets louder.
    As I've mentioned before, I think one of the main themes of the drama is that love alone cannot sustain a successful marriage. That was not only evident in LDB's and JZ's failed relationship, but in SJP's and LXF's as well. SJP realized how much he cared for LXF even before the mutual divorce agreement, as shown in the hospital room scene when he was talking to JZ. It's just that there comes a certain point when too many painful things have happened to turn back and it's best for both parties to go their separate ways. Simply being friends or living apart may be the only way to maintain peace. I felt really sorry for their kid, who had to bear the brunt of the trials and tribulations of his parents' downward spiraling marriage. That one hopeful moment at the end is realistically just that: ONE moment. It cannot erase the past, nor is it likely to alter the future given that people don't tend to change overnight. I really like the ending theme song and its very fitting lyrics. I still have it playing as my Xanga background music right now.

    I'm wondering if the drama left the ending somewhat open. Even though the divorce agreement was all signed and ready on the table, I'm not sure if it's *officially* been submitted?

    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    What actually happens to their child in the end? Who manages to gain custody of him?
    LXF has custody of their son.

    Quote Originally Posted by survivor_gal
    I didn't realise that this thread was lacking in comments such as this one(according to Lady Zhuge) because I would be more than happy to add such comments. Yeah, CDM is hot and cool and is a great actor too!
    Do pop in more often to make such comments.
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    Post Hi everybody

    I'm very happy that I finally found this page . I've been searching for Chen Daoming webpage and forum for ages, but I get very little.
    I became CDM fan since I saw him in Nu Xun An. I was impressed by his performance, and I really becane his fan when I saw him again in Young justice bao I. So, I began to ask someone about him, but no one knew. I was very confused when I realized that very few people pay attention to him, and there's just a little information about him in Vietnamese.( I'm Vetnamese).
    I began to search on the Internet, hoping that i'll find any information about him or if I'm lucky enough, I'll find his fan club. But I was confused one more time. I found no website dedicated to him in English, and I can't read Chinese
    Now, I think I've found the right place. I hope that I'll receive a lot of his information from you, and we'll make this forum more and more interesting.

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    Hi.
    Can anybody tell me what program I should use to open the file you provided? Fox ex, I can't open the song bu shuo after I downloaded by Windows Media Player. What should I open it with?
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    Hi myedelweiss85! Welcome to SPCNET and to Chen Dao Ming's thread! It's always nice to meet another fan of this outstanding actor. He is actually very famous and popular in mainland China, but I guess not as much outside of there.
    What role did he play in "Young Justice Bao III"? I remember survivor_gal mentioning that series as well. I take it that you enjoyed "Nu Xun An" a lot? Was CDM pretty funny in there with Sandra Ng?

    The song in the first page should open with Real Player.
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    Originally posted by Myedelweiss85
    I'm very happy that I finally found this page . I've been searching for Chen Daoming webpage and forum for ages, but I get very little.
    Hi and welcome to this forum...I was once at a lost like you too, searching for websites and forums on Chen Daoming until I finally found this one... Hopefully we can share news about this great actor!

    I found no website dedicated to him in English, and I can't read Chinese
    Well, I had the same problems like you because I too, cannot read Chinese... Here is a website that is in English(and the only one I have found so far, recommended to me by Lady Zhuge): www.chinacdm.net
    Other great websites in Chinese that you can check out:
    http://www.daoming.net/gb/ (this website is updated very frequently)
    http://www.5151.net/club/club.asp?star=³ÂµÀÃ÷ (lots of up-to-date pictures of CDM!)
    Although I can't read Chinese, I usually do visit these two websites to look at the pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Zhuge
    I know I already mentioned "Jiang Shan Feng Yu Qing" in the TGQ thread, I thought I'd post a picture of Chen Dao Ming in the show:
    He plays Tian Qi Di.
    Hi, sorry for not dropping in for a long time. Although you have posted about this series a very very long time ago, I have actually wanted to ask you more about it. What is the story all about? How was Chen Daoming's character in the show like? Did he play the role of the good guy or the villain?

    BTW, I think CDM has been acting in lots of advertisements lately and here are the links to two of them:
    http://www.daoming.net/gb/Soft_Show.asp?SoftID=117
    http://www.daoming.net/gb/Soft_Show.asp?SoftID=118
    I guess this shows that he is in great demand to star in advertisements in China!
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    JSFYQ is set at the end of the Ming dynasty. It hasn't been released yet, so I don't know much about it.
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    Hi survivor_gal,
    Thanks for the websites you gave me. But the site www.chinacdm.net is also in Chinese, only the tittles are in English. Anyway, I enjoyed the pics very much.

    Lady Zhuge,
    I said he was in Young Justice Bao I, not III. Sorry because I don't know what the name of his role 'cause I saw it in Vietnamese. It's the uncle of the King -who always help Bao when he needs. Haven't you seen it?
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    Try this one for more about CDM. It doesn't have a lot information, and I think it's not very up-to-date, but it's in English
    http://beststar.muzi.com/ee/1/20746.shtml
    Enjoy!

    I hope you'll post more pics. In this one he's very attractive I think.
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    Myedelweiss85, sorry, I misread what you wrote. No, I haven't seen YJB I. I've probably already said this before, but it sounds like his role in that series is kind of like his role as Dongfang Suo in "Da Han Tian Zi".

    Here are some more CDM links that I may or may not have posted before, although they are all in Chinese. Clicking around for pics and such wouldn't hurt.

    CDM's sina site

    Chendaoming.com

    Here's a pic of CDM and his wife:



    Source and more pics are available here
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