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    Originally posted by rabadi
    Yes, quite an interesting theory indeed. However, JYY was based on Buddhism, while 9 Yang was based on Taoism, right? Or am I mistaken?
    I thought YJJ was based more about nerves??

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    Originally posted by Candide
    I disagree. Education wasn't that great back then. Most people were struggling to learn their own language, let alone another one. Heck even now some people are still hopeless. Just go ask some of your Anglo buddies

    Also, remember why HS wrote the best part of 9 Yin in Sanskrit ? If Sanskrit were such a popular language like you suggest, HS would be pretty silly doing that.

    Additionally, monks in wuxia novels were stupid.
    On the contary. China is the pre-eminent place that emphasises education in the ancient world. And we know that monastery or temples are centers of learning in the past akin to the universities of today. One would presume that Sanskrit would be better preserved in a center of religion and learning i.e. the temples than in the general population. No?

    Anyone there who knows a bit about the history of sanskrit usage in ancient china?

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    China is the pre-eminent place that emphasises education in the ancient world.
    Oh yeah. These ancient folks were inventing stuff left right and center Nah I believe they only educated the powerful/rich families. The majority wouldn't know how to read or write.

    From my limited reading of education in these religious places, it seems that only the head monks would study Sanskrit then translate stuff. The rest relied on their translation A bit like people in this forum when it comes to wuxia reading, actually hehehe
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    Originally posted by CC
    5) JY wrote HSDS before SOD and DGSD.
    This would be a good explanation actually, if it weren't for JY's penchant for revising his novels...

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    Originally posted by Han Solo
    On the contary. China is the pre-eminent place that emphasises education in the ancient world. And we know that monastery or temples are centers of learning in the past akin to the universities of today. One would presume that Sanskrit would be better preserved in a center of religion and learning i.e. the temples than in the general population. No?

    Anyone there who knows a bit about the history of sanskrit usage in ancient china?
    IIRC, Sanskrit was akin to Greek in the West, where only a very few knew the language, than Latin. Historically Buddhism in China was rather Sinified by the Song dynasty and the monks read Chinese forgeries and summae on Sanskrit texts more than they did Sanskrit originals. The situation was not like the Bible and Latin. Especially at Shaolin, which was a Chen (Zen) sect, and more influenced by Daoism, folk religions and Hindu mysticism than Buddhism proper. I remember a Buddhist wryingly commenting that Chen Buddhism was more Daoist than Buddhist!

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    Originally posted by Arching_Hero
    I thought YJJ was based more about nerves??
    Probably. I was talking in general though, not in depth. If I'm not mistaken YJJ was created by Damo, so I assume it was based on Buddhism. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    Originally posted by Candide
    A bit like people in this forum when it comes to wuxia reading, actually hehehe
    That's true

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    Originally posted by - L1n -
    this reminds me since wyy and dy knows so many kung fu would'nt u expect dali to be the most prominent kungfu place considering wanyuyan have access to all sects mauals before the hs and dugu era and also plus dy's 6 mai senjian, lbwb and bmsg , also not to mention dali temple's yi yang zhi and the yjj they should be invincible and yet in condor trilogy dali was only famous for yi yan zhi. i mean common thats more than enough kungfu to munch shaolin up. In a way i am very disappointed with wyy she should be the kungfu goddess lol.
    dugu probably killed all the strongest fighters in Dali in his quest to seek a loss
    Burying his Dugu 9 Jian manual under an epitaph, Dugu Qiubai felt he has left his legacy for the next generation. He then moved to Shaolin to study Buddhism, sweep floors and tap elite fighters.

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    doubt it dugu is overated.

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