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    Perfect vs Flawed Characters?

    Which do you like better and why?
    Which do you dislike more and why?

    Perfect beauty or gentleman or all powerful fighter? Too much luck in life? All knowingness?

    This includes Jin Yong and Gu Long characters. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but I'd like to have it discussed.

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    Edit: Thats what I meant Perfect characters.
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    I don't know what exactly is the 'qualities' of a 'perfect hero' though.
    "I will punish the evil and protect the weak, superboy is in a winning streak. The sky's peak is what I seek"

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    most characters (at least main characters) have flaws....

    i do think that "perfect" chars would be quite annoying though. no challenge...no place for improvement, and much much more unrelatable. perhaps it could be jealousy . but then again, everyone's idea of "perfect" is different

    most of gu long's chars seem to be much more irritating. well, i just find that chars who can predict everything that'z about to happen to be pretty irritating...JY has much less of these type chars.
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    I don't think there's such a thing as a perfect hero. Even the best heroes are ultimately only human, and thus flawed in some ways.

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    Thats what I meant....perfect characters.

    I know some perfect characters annoy some people but don't some flawed characters annoy them to the point that you want to slap them?

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    Is a perfect hero like the Jesus type or something?
    Last edited by superboy; 03-14-04 at 04:04 AM.
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    Originally posted by Suet Seung
    Thats what I meant....perfect characters.

    I know some perfect characters annoy some people but don't some flawed characters annoy them to the point that you want to slap them?

    thatz why we go for moderation

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    I think GJ and XF has the closest to a perfect personailty in JY's world for a 'hero'. Anyone with opinions?
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    No Jin Yong hero is perfect.

    Guo Jing = Too stubborn
    Yang Guo = Too hot tempered
    Xiao Feng = Too aggressive
    Zhang Wuji = Too wishy washy
    Xu Zhu = Too stupid
    Duan Yu = Stalker boy
    Linghu Chong = Dunno much about him

    As for Gu Long heroe's, there are several of them who seem to be perfect. However the one guy that really seems to stick out from the rest in terms of martial arts and mentality is Shen Lang.
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    Originally posted by superboy
    I think GJ and XF has the closest to a perfect personailty in JY's world for a 'hero'. Anyone with opinions?
    Zhang Sanfeng's personality is better At least in my opinion.
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    GJ is too dumb

    XF is just tragic

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    Z3F also wasn't perfect too. After his diciple died, he sort of became a little discriminating ot evil sect members too. Although it is understandable, and it wasn't close to any extreme level, he is still not a perfect taoist.
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    Originally posted by philip
    GJ is too dumb

    XF is just tragic
    I was just talking about the personality for a perfect hero. Righteous, kindness, etc, etc, etc.....................
    "I will punish the evil and protect the weak, superboy is in a winning streak. The sky's peak is what I seek"

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    stupidity is also involved in judging a person's quality, no? a perfect char would be intelligent, quick learner, street smart, etc....

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    There's no such thing as perfection, simply because being perfect is also a flaw

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    Originally posted by philip
    stupidity is also involved in judging a person's quality, no? a perfect char would be intelligent, quick learner, street smart, etc....
    I don't see YG having good judgment.
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    I prefer flawed characters. Perfect characters are too unreal for me to read. Imagine, how boring it is to read a character that can do no wrong?

    What do u mean by
    Perfect beauty or gentleman or all powerful fighter? Too much luck in life? All knowingness?
    If a character has only one of these qualities, he/she wouldn't be considered perfect. Or are u asking us to choose which characteristic we prefer?
    Last edited by kidd; 03-14-04 at 04:52 AM.

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    So howcome so many people hate ZWJ? He was just being a little indecisive with which girl he likes best and everyone are throwing tomatoes on him.
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    indecisiveness is a flaw

    I don't see YG having good judgment
    neither does GJ...he lets HR think for him

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    Originally posted by philip
    indecisiveness is a flaw


    neither does GJ...he lets HR think for him
    That is no personailty flaw. He has good enough judgment to know that HR is smarter than him.
    "I will punish the evil and protect the weak, superboy is in a winning streak. The sky's peak is what I seek"

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