The difference is that you cannot really find anything wrong with the wrestleing since we do not have a very good idea on the locking. While it is very easy to understand that there is a limit to the amount of muscle mass you can gain. That is not the caase that we'd seen for interale energy.you use wrestling as an analogy to GLFW vs YG in terms of internal energy…why would weight training not be? YG definitely had less than 7 years of training before the 16 years…4 years of ancient tomb + less than a month of water cultivation for real training (and perhaps plus some less than two years while he’s on his “adventure”), but it seems that the progression he got from his water cultivation is much faster than his ancient tomb training. If his improvement was linear…he should’ve at least improved by 3 times.
Well this can also be explained that ZBT has much more times training his martial arts at the Peach Blossom island, while he played more than train in the outside world. Also, his 9 Yin techniques contributes too. I never said that internal cultivatioj is linear, simply it is not high of a possiblity that after all these years of cultivation with 9 Yin, GJ wouldn't be able to surpass the Great's much inferior methods.now doesn’t that contradict ur own theory of a linear progression rate? ZBT obviously did not have a linear rate. And yet, if QZ internal power truly allowed him faster and faster progression (during his 10 years on peach island), by the end of ROCH, ZBT should have also way surpassed the other Greats…but seemingly, most ppl agree that ZBT is only a bit better than the other greats (still about about the same level). The difference not much more than at the end of LOCH.
YG had a very small amount, and 9 Yin doesn't grow if you don't practice the internal energy.YG also had pieces of 9 yin inside him, and isn’t unconscious cultivation the whole purpose of the jade bed?
It’s also pretty obvious that between the 16 years wait for XLN, YG’s internal energy was cultivating quite nicely .
I believe that it's 3/4 years. Any experts correct me if I'm wrong. And if GJ improves about twice the rate of GLFW, and GLFW=OYF at that time, than during GLFW's battle with GJ, GJ should just have 3/4 years more internal energy compare to GLFW that time if we count the faster rate he has. That is just enough to only make a slight difference, which was suggest by JY. And using HR as an example isn't very good, becasue I believe she barely train much. I also remember philip agreed on it upon the other thread that HR probably don't train much.Super: The fight of OYF and GJ was only three years before the battle of GLFW. IF we count their age, GJ improves at least twice the rate of GLFW. But a three years seperation may not make much difference. But it was also stated that GJ and GLFW would need over a thousand stance to decide the victor, while GJ tied with OYF 3 years ago. It seems likely that time that GJ will probably win. So no inconsistency here.
--- First off, are we sure the interval is "3 years" betw (GJ vs OYF) and (GJ vs. GWM)? [For my counter-arguments, I'll use 3 years for now.]
--- Using your/Temu's assumption that GJ "did" continue to improve (obviously using 9Yin) within the interval when GJ faced OYF and when GJ faced GWN, I find inconsistencies (which prove your trend/theory wrong):
1) Your statements/theory indicate OYF < GWM, becuz (GJ=OYF or greater) and after 3 years of 9Yin (GJ=GWM or greater) prior the 16 years. Recall your assumption that 9Yin is twice GWM's rate?
--- If OYF < GWM then: 1) GWM's rate of innerPower is better. 2) Then YG vs. GWM at QZ Palace means that YG is already a "great" prior the 16 years and YG could take KauCheenYan easily. And YG after 16years should be "really" above the greats: not true.
--- Now taking GJ is twice the innerPower rate than GWM, and if we backtrack your theory/trend, then OYF=H7G=HYS=1Deng < GWM. And then GWM after 16years should be "really" above the greats: not true.
--- Recall HR also trained 9Yin along with GJ for 10years in PeachBlossom Island before ROCH. If GJ really improved betw beginning of ROCH and prior YG's 16year separation, then HR also "should" improved. It was stated that HR and GJ did things together. However, (YG=HR or YG>HR) > (Gongsun, MadameGongsun,etc), meaning HR's (10years of 9Yin in PeachBlossom Island and more than 3 years of 9Yin and the whole LOCH year) sucks compared to (QZ + AncientTomb + snakeGall + IronSword training), and IronSword+snakeGall only improved YG "one or two levels" This results in HR and GJ becoming "static" characters and DGQB's methods are better than 9Yin.
I never really said anything about QZ internal energy.Super: HIs [YG] torrent training is mainly the onl thing he trains. He seems to no longer uses his old methods.
--- Assuming YG doesnt train QZ, then GJ also doesnt train in QZ but in 9Yin fully. However, your assumption is based that QZ innerPower effect "requires" QZ training to be effective [Can anyone tell if this is true?]