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    yes, yubo and ada ends up together
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    Thanks MysticDust, but can u tell me more bout the summary of part 2. I'm gettin really curious.

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    I beg to differ "dumb" and naive my most beloved YuBo was not "dumb" but naiv like a child.
    In part I he was the one to take care of everyboy, in part II everybody was to take care of him since without his memory he was such a child eager to learn whatsoever; his stubbornness often drove Dou Dou out of her minds I love the scenes where Dou Dou went mad and Tong Bo so worried about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by meo_trang
    I beg to differ "dumb" and naive my most beloved YuBo was not "dumb" but naiv like a child.
    In part I he was the one to take care of everyboy, in part II everybody was to take care of him since without his memory he was such a child eager to learn whatsoever; his stubbornness often drove Dou Dou out of her minds I love the scenes where Dou Dou went mad and Tong Bo so worried about it
    yes, I will agree w/ naive. anywho, i guess I am a bit mad at him in part II for thinking he likes that annoying girl for awhile. he was all afraid of being touched by dou dou and that was soooo sad. I was soooo happy when he finally accepted her hug. and the part when her father died and she was crying and he pushed her away, that was heart-breaking. I was really happy when he comfort her later though.
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilazngrl32
    Thanks MysticDust, but can u tell me more bout the summary of part 2. I'm gettin really curious.
    Well, my dear, there is actually a thread that regards the 2nd part called Spirit Mirror Legend. If you want more info on it, you can go here:
    http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthre...4&page=1&pp=20

    I am pretty sure somewhere in the beginning of either this thread or the spirit mirror one that has a link to a webpage dedicated to ada. On that webpage, they have a really, really good summary of part two and it also have lots and lots of pics. But if you want a summary from little ol' me, tell me after you look at the other thread. Cuz, i could do a summary, but it might not be as good as others.
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    I think it's this link: LJCQ - Review
    Unfortunately it is still under construction, but you can keep track of it, I think it will be completed soon. This is a nice website of Ada Choi. I like her too and will check it out myself when I got some time

    to MysticDust,
    I dislike the annoying girl and her companion, too. But DB never really paid attention to her, the only one whom he has ever carred for has never been anyone else but DouDou, as you can see, he was seldom seen without her sticking to his site and as for the running from her hugs, I guess it's a little bit scary for "a child" to be "attacked" like that But he said it himself: he always wants to see DouDou eventhough she scares him and is always forcing him to think about this and that hihihi....

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    Quote Originally Posted by meo_trang
    I think it's this link: LJCQ - Review
    Unfortunately it is still under construction, but you can keep track of it, I think it will be completed soon. This is a nice website of Ada Choi. I like her too and will check it out myself when I got some time

    to MysticDust,
    I dislike the annoying girl and her companion, too. But DB never really paid attention to her, the only one whom he has ever carred for has never been anyone else but DouDou, as you can see, he was seldom seen without her sticking to his site and as for the running from her hugs, I guess it's a little bit scary for "a child" to be "attacked" like that But he said it himself: he always wants to see DouDou eventhough she scares him and is always forcing him to think about this and that hihihi....

    Sorry, meo_trang, I don't know if we are talking about the same thing. The annoying girl you are refering to, is it the daughter of the blacksmith guy? and the companion = blacksmith's apprentice? cuz that is who i am talking about. I think that whole family is annoying. I dislike them more than the evil girl. anywho, as i recall, dong bac did run away from dou dou many times. even though, yes, one part he did say he likes her, but in the beginning when he thought the other girl was the girl who was at the cliff, i find that annoying.

    anywho, this have been bothering me for a long while. I keep wondering if it's my version or what, but can some1 answer please? in part I, when the 2nd bro saw monica's father for the first time, after he left, evil guy and father was discussing. during their conversation, the evil guy mentioned another dong person that he saw previous (this dong person is dong bac). when they were talking, who was the evil guy saying that was more braver and smarter. was he saying 2nd bro was smarter than first or first was smarter than 2nd.

    since we are at it, can I get some theories for the 2nd one? you know how naive dong bac keeps thinking he was in love w/ a girl in the wedding dress standing at the cliff. he mentioned it several times that he has to find her. so, do the other people know it was dou dou all along? to me, at times they seem to know and at times they seem not to. what do you think?
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    hhiihi.... I do know you are talking about Kiem Thu. Well Dong Bac runs away many times, but he does not actually run away from DouDou, like a child he just "wanders around" being curious about everything, in deed, I believe he does not think much about what he is doing. As for Kiem Thu, he likes her, but in a brotherly way, after all she saved him, and is very nice to him, so it is only natural that he returns the generousity, but the one he really cares for in term of "love" is DouDou So don't mind him liking Kiem Thu, since it is always no more than brotherly affection.

    when they were talking, who was the evil guy saying that was more braver and smarter. was he saying 2nd bro was smarter than first or first was smarter than 2nd.
    hmm... got to rewatch this scene first, for now I do not recall it.

    you know how naive dong bac keeps thinking he was in love w/ a girl in the wedding dress standing at the cliff. he mentioned it several times that he has to find her. so, do the other people know it was dou dou all along? to me, at times they seem to know and at times they seem not to. what do you think?
    hihihi... Well Dong Bac explained it himself several times, he does not have a clue what or who he saw, it's like a memory, a vision in his dreams, and the dreams are vague not clear, it is more like a feeling. I think, DB keeps being totured by this feeling because it was very very intensive at the moment when he died, back then he wanted to see DouDou so much, and seeing the sight of her far far away running to him made him both happy and sad. This yearning for her, and the intensity of the moment have been so strong that ithey were forever engraved in his mind. And as for the others, they do believe the person DB saw on the cliff could only be no one else but DouDou, but since DB was not sure himself, they just leave it to him to find it out. DC did request the magic mirror for the answer, but it refused to tell.

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    Hi guys!! I haven't been on for a couple of days but am glad to see some of you here. Anyway, I finally finished part 2 and it isn't that bad. I like it very much. The flashbacks aren't so bad. I actually like Yu bo in part 2(most of the time). I think he is funny and cute. But yea, the part that he pushes Dou Dou away is really sad...However, when he saw that her hands were injured he immediately comforted her which shows that he still has a kind heart. The ending to part 2 was ok, but my mom wasn't that satisfied with it since Tong Bo and Dou Dou did not get married.

    To mysticdust,
    You are welcome about the song translation. That is the themesong to part 1. I didn't do the translation for the subsong yet since I am busy with school. I will try to do it for part 2 if I can.The songs for part 2,especially the subsong is sooo nice and meaningful. The song is perfect for the the series. Yea, I will try to go a Viet version since it may make it easier for you all to understand.

    About part 2, Jian Chou was ok... Her father and her companion were annoying though... I liked the part that Yu Bo argued with him and then tried to hit him. That part was sooo funny... I hope that Yu bo will act in comedies in the future...

    There are some things about part 2 that I don't like. ONe is that robber lady Fei tian Feng. Gosh, she is sooooo annoying. The only thing I like about her is that she killed Zhao Yun. I wish that Zhao Yun died a more horrible death though since she did so many evil things. I also don't understand why Tong Xin has to stay with Tian Qi even after he knows his identity. Why didn't he come back and be with his brothers??? Is it because of Xiao Dao(that girl he likes)?
    That whole thing about the girl dressed in red bothered me too. Didn't Dou Dou tell Tong Bo that SHE is the one??? But he still tries to look for her?? Goodness... I am glad that he finally realized that it is her.
    I am also annoyed at Tian Qi for not wanting to kill Zhao Yun or dump her earlier. It seems like he can forgive her for everything even after all that she has done.... It's like WAKE UP Tian QI!!!!

    But overall, part 2 is not bad and is worth watching overall....
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    ahhh I hated that annoying tian feng and her entire company, too. In deed, I have kept forwarding theses scenes through the whole series. She and her company were a pain in my neck! I could not stand it seeing her trampling my good series so that one really has had to wonder, why in god's name didnt they cut her out! They should really have replaced her by someone less annoying, someone who would really contribute to the story... well, I cannot change her role, but if I could I would wish they do the part 2 again and this time without tian feng and her company, less zhao yun, more DouDou, DB, DC and TT That would be fine
    I keep hoping there will be a part 3

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    To Trinie

    Wow, I didn't realise I haven't been to this thread for such a while. Glad you have finished LJCQ. So you do like it? Like I said before, I was pretty upset with the way the show went - too many flashbacks, irritating new characters and a storyline that pales in comparison to SYDT. Also I didn't quite like Tong Bo there. Maybe I was so used to seeing him being intelligent and in command of each situation that I couldn't really accept a naive Tong Bo. But then after watching it again with an open mind, I think he's ok. And yes, I agree he should do comedies. He could carry off the funny expressions and behaviour rather well, even though he himself said before that he wasn’t sure he could do comedies well.

    Do you like the more mature Tong Zhan? I suppose they need at least a clear mind in charge, so he had to 'grow up' to replace his older brother. And Tong Xin was wonderful here - very calm, smart and so cool. Pity they didn't give him more exposure in the show.

    I also hate the lady thief Tian Feng. She got on the nerves so much. Incidentally the character she played in Young Wesley (another show with YB, YJY and Nicky Wu) was also very annoying, so much so that I wanted to sock it to her. And horror of horrors, there was a hint that YB's character, Bai Qi Wei, did like her finally. Coming back to LJCQ, maybe she was meant to be the comic relief, but she sure did a lousy job. Ended up being annoying instead. Another two annoying characters would be Jian Qiu’s father and his worker. Perhaps another comic relief but their actions and expressions were so overdone that I cringe everytime they appear.

    The girls were ok although Dou Dou was not as endearing as before since she had lost much of her spontaneity. And it was so sad that Tong Zhan couldn’t be together with Tian Xue although all through the show I kept hoping that there would be a miracle drug to save her finally. Sigh! Also, Zhao Yun’s death was too easy for someone so evil. Oh well, perhaps it was easier to kill her off quickly than to think of some other way to punish her since the story was already ending.

    Well, the show’s already out so no matter how the audience does not like the ending or the storyline, it’s too late. But it sure feels good to be able to let off steam here though.

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    I am rewatching LJCQ. You know the scenes where the evil girl was suffering becuz her hands were itchy? That was great. The old guy is sooo adorable. I just loved what he said right after he poisoned her. He flaunted the fact that he poisoned her w/ a clear conscience and no conseqences. That was sooo cute!
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    Hi guys!!
    Today is nearly my final day of spring break... Back to all of the boring school work soon. Anyway, glad to see you guys here...I thought that I was the only one that found Fei Tian Feng and her whole company annoying...

    Hi jylow!!
    Glad to see you here! I haven't been to tvseriesensation for awhile. I may not be coming to any forums for the rest of the semester since I will be sooo busy with school. Anyway, I like part 2 overall. There are things about it that I don't like as well, but no series is perfect. I liked BoBo in part 2 overall. He said that it fits him more than the Tong Bo in part 1. I really hope that he can do comedies in the future. I think he will be really funny.
    I really like the mature Tong Zhan. He is soo sweet.. I feel so sorry for him regardins his brothers and Tian Xue's issue.... Gosh, he is such a great guy but has to suffer so much. I am glad that he was able to keep his brothers together. I still don't like how Tong Xin was still following Tian Qi instead of being with his brothers. I loved how they were always together in part 1. I like Tong Xin too. I wish he had more screen time.
    I thought that I was only the one that thought Tian Feng was annoying. Jian Chou's father and his worker were annoying too....It was so funny when BoBo got annoyed by him and tried to hit him... I love that scene... I think he was jealous...
    I am also sad about Tian Xue dying... Why couldn't Zhao Yun die a more horrible death??? I hated her so much...
    I think the girls were ok for the most part. Dou Dou looked a lot more feminine in part 2, but her character was more plain and boring. I liked her character in part 1 more.
    Part 2 wasn't bad though, but I admit that it could have been a lot better.... I hope that there will be more great series in the future with a good cast....
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    Didn't Tong Xin stayed w/ Tian Qi partly becuz Tong Zhan told him to? Tong Zhan wanted him to protect Tian Qi from the evil lady. And of course, the red clothe girl ( I don't like the actress who play her. She seems too old for Tong Xin).
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    I don't remember that part since I kind of fast forwarded some of the parts. I didn't have time to watch everything but still managed to see most of it. Thanks for letting me know.
    Yea, I agree about the girl named Xiao Dao(I forgot her name... I read it during the end credits, but don't remember what it is now).She did look way too old for TOng Xin. Did you know that Tong Xin is actually older then Yu Bo in real life?? My mom was shocked since he looks younger.
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    Isn't Yubo 28 or 29? and Ada is in her mid-30's right?


    My aunt and mom was like, oh my gosh. She loooks soo young. and she does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinie
    I don't remember that part since I kind of fast forwarded some of the parts. I didn't have time to watch everything but still managed to see most of it. Thanks for letting me know.
    Yea, I agree about the girl named Xiao Dao(I forgot her name... I read it during the end credits, but don't remember what it is now).She did look way too old for TOng Xin. Did you know that Tong Xin is actually older then Yu Bo in real life?? My mom was shocked since he looks younger.

    I kinda do believe tong xin is older though. cuz, his eyes doesn't look really young to me. weird eh?
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    Default Tong Xin and Tian Qi

    Well, I am a considerable fan of Tian Qi, so I've given his relationship to Tong Xin a lot of thought:

    In part 1, Tian Qi's arm was burnt in 2nd Uncle's bravura attack on the bamboo grove (I am STILL in awe over that scene -- !!) -- then to add insult to injury 2nd Uncle challenged Tian Qi and broke his arm (May I ask what the h-- was that about?). It will likely come back to Tong Xin that he healed Tian Qi of those injuries -- it seemed 2nd Uncle's evil magic had gotten in there and was preventing it from healing, and Tong Xin was able to fix it because he was shielded by Yin Xiu's protective spell earlier.

    Tie Feng, the captain of the guards, died when Zhao Yun impaled him on that stupid sword. Were his last words to Tian Qi something about getting rid of the da-- thing? In any case, Tie Feng appeared to have been something of a mentor to Tian Qi, someone who protected and served him but also set an example. Watch Tian Qi in Tie Feng's death scene -- he's as griefstricken as he was when he found his father dying (or so he THOUGHT!) in the courtyard.

    Now Tong Xin is being a little of what Tie Feng was. He respects Tian Qi, takes him seriously, and gives him level-headed advice. This is exactly what Tian Qi needs -- someone who gives him confidence. And I think that is why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairu
    Well, I am a considerable fan of Tian Qi, so I've given his relationship to Tong Xin a lot of thought:

    In part 1, Tian Qi's arm was burnt in 2nd Uncle's bravura attack on the bamboo grove (I am STILL in awe over that scene -- !!) -- then to add insult to injury 2nd Uncle challenged Tian Qi and broke his arm (May I ask what the h-- was that about?). It will likely come back to Tong Xin that he healed Tian Qi of those injuries -- it seemed 2nd Uncle's evil magic had gotten in there and was preventing it from healing, and Tong Xin was able to fix it because he was shielded by Yin Xiu's protective spell earlier.

    Tie Feng, the captain of the guards, died when Zhao Yun impaled him on that stupid sword. Were his last words to Tian Qi something about getting rid of the da-- thing? In any case, Tie Feng appeared to have been something of a mentor to Tian Qi, someone who protected and served him but also set an example. Watch Tian Qi in Tie Feng's death scene -- he's as griefstricken as he was when he found his father dying (or so he THOUGHT!) in the courtyard.

    Now Tong Xin is being a little of what Tie Feng was. He respects Tian Qi, takes him seriously, and gives him level-headed advice. This is exactly what Tian Qi needs -- someone who gives him confidence. And I think that is why.
    Actually, I think it is more to protect him from evil girl and being close to xiao dao than advice. Cuz after xiao dao and evil girl died, tong xin left too. He was there to keep tian qi on track, which is true, but I think his motive is to be close to the one he loves. And like I said, Tong Zhan did tell him to protect tian qi.
    How come most 江湖 (jiānghú) wanderers never worry about money? I wonder how a 大俠 (dàxiá) make a living...does meddling in people's business and righting wrongs pay well?

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    Hi, friends! Do you know the biography and filmography of Yang Guang? She played as Zhao Yun in film "Shui Yue Dong Tian" and played as Bai Su in film "Youngster of wei se li". Thanx

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