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    This chapter is taking longer than expected so forgot what I said about getting to chapter 13 <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> I'm getting lazy, plus I'm watching The Grand Canal so I'm probably going to slow down.
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    Grand Canal? The old TVB series with Tony Leung?

    If it is the one, it really Suc*s. I mean i love Tony Leung, but he was pissing off his talents in TVB after he finished with DOMD. Luckily he got a renaissance when he moved to movies.

    Btw, great translations. Take your time. Don't burn up anytime soon. Things are getting exciting.

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    I think they're probably at the same level as or one level below Ah Qing, which is about the level of a 2nd or 3rd generation Quan Zhen disciple.
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    I love Jin Yong's novels espically this one and SOD. Thank you for translating it for us peeps who can't read chinese.

    No wonder why Jin Yong was so popular; there is always drama happening, which capivates the reader at all times. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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    It's all good, as long as you don't stop and leave us hanging, hehe. Thanks for translating!
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    Translating: Ni Tian Xie Shen (逆天邪神) – Against the Gods by Mars Gravity @ https://alyschu.wordpress.com/

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    Cool

    thank you, Noodle. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

    Yelu Qi is really powerful in here - a more fit to Simon Yam.

    Can't wait to read more. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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    Yang Guo knew that it was the pair of condors that belonged to the Guo couple. When he was younger, he had played with the condors on Peach Blossom Island, since the condors were here, the Guo couple would be nearby. He expelled himself from Chong Yang Palace and didn’t want to see Guo Jing again, he quickly leapt back many steps and put on the human skin mask.
    The condors flew left and right, up and down, their wings attacking Li Mo Chou incessantly. The two condors have a very good memory, they kept in their hearts what had happened years ago when they suffered the pain of the ‘Soul Freezing Needles’, when they saw her from faraway they immediately came and attack, but they were still afraid of her needles, every time she waved her hands, they quickly circled around.
    Ye Luu Qi was watching carefully and knew that it would be hard for the two condors to win, he called out, “Brother Yang, let’s go again, how would she cope with the four of us?” He was about to dash forward when he heard the sounds of horse hoofs from the southeast, a horse was galloping straight on.
    The horse was extremely fast, by the time the sounds of footsteps reached him, the horse was in front of him, it was long and tall, covered in red fur, its spirit was amazing.
    Li Mo Chou and Ye Luu Qi were both startled, “How can this horse gallop so fast?” The was a girl in red on the horse’s back, the girl and horse looked like an oncoming flame, the only thing that wasn’t red was the girl’s white face. Yang Guo saw the condors and red horse and knew that it was the daughter of Guo Jing and Huang Rong, Guo Fu. He saw her reign in the horse, the horse immediately held its ground. The horse stopped immediately after being ordered, it didn’t make a sound and was composed. Ye Luu Qi grew up in Mongolia, he has seen countless spirited horses, but one with such a magnificent air he has never seen, he couldn’t stop himself from being surprised. He didn’t know that this horse was a sweat and blood precious horse that Guo Jing obtained from the plains of Mongolia, then it was just a foal, now it was grown up and could be said to be in its senior years, but this extraordinary horse different to other horses in old age, its bones and muscles were extremely strong, it hasn’t lost any of its strength through its transition to old age.
    Yang Guo hasn’t seen Guo Fu for a long time, he remembered she was an arrogant and bullying little girl, now she has grown into a young girl who was as pleasant as a spring flower. After riding urgently for this time, sweat formed on her forehead, her cheeks reflected her red dress and looked even more glamorous. She looked at condors for a while and then glanced at Ye Luu Qi and the others, she saw Yang Guo dressed in the Mongolian uniform wearing the human skin mask, his face was extremely strange, her brows creased, showing signs of disrespect.
    Yang Guo and her had never got along since they were young, she saw her looking at him in disgust, the feelings of hate and humility were strengthened, thinking, “You don’t respect me but does that mean that I want you to look upon me with respect? Your father is a living hero, your mother is the chief of the Beggar Clan, your grandfather is one of the prominent martial artists in the world, there is no one who doesn’t look at the Guo family with respect. What about my father and mother? My mother is a country girl, I don’t know who my father is and he died without reason, I don’t want to compare myself with you, I’m born into hardship, suffering the abuse of others. If you try to insult me again I wouldn’t care.”
    He stood by the side, hurt and wretched, he felt that no one in the world looked upon him highly, there was no good reason to live on in this world. Only his master Xiao Long Nuu treated him with love, but where is she now? Is there going to be a day in this lifetime where they will see each other again? His heart was filled with sorrow, he heard the sound of horse hoofs, two more horses rode forward. One of the horses was green, the other yellow, they both were good quality animals but there was a big gap when compared to Guo Fu’s red horse. On the horses were two young men, both of them wearing yellow.
    Guo Fu called out, “Brother Wu’s, it’s the evil woman again.”
    The young men on the horse were the Wu brothers, Wu Dun Ru and Wu Xia Wen. Both of them saw Li Mo Chou; she was the person who killed their mother, in these past few years they wasn’t a day where they didn’t remember this, who could have thought that they would meet again here; they quickly leapt off the horse, each drew out a long sword and attacked from the left and right.
    Guo Fu called out, “I’m going as well.” She took out a precious sword by the horse’s reign and leapt off the horse to help.
    Li Mo Chou saw the longer the battle went on the more enemies there were; even though they were young; as soon as the two young men came forward their face and eyes were red, they fought fiercely with their lives, the sword techniques refined showing that there were under the tutelage of a famous master, the young girl in red joined in as well, as soon as she attacked the tip of her sword quivered slightly, sparkling in the eye, the sword thrust forwards, buried within the stance was an extremely lethal secondary aim, though the internal energy was weak, the sword technique was profound and ingenious, her heart shivered and called out, “You are Peach Blossom’s Island Miss Guo?”
    Guo Fu chuckled and said, “So you know me.” She unleashed two stances aiming to harm her chest.
    Li Mo Chou raised her flywhisk and blocked the stances, thinking, “This little girl is very arrogant, attacking me without respect with you lowly skills, if I weren’t afraid of incurring your parents wrath, even if there was ten of you I’ll kill you all.” The flywhisk flipped around, she wanted to take away her long sword when suddenly the sounds of wind came from her sides, the Wu brothers thrust forward at the same time. Guo Jing taught the Wu brothers and Guo Fu martial arts personally, the three lived and played together on the island, their sword skills were the same. The three sword skills were tightly matched, the advance and retreat complimented each other, although it wasn’t some kind of formation, as the swords came out, the force of it wasn’t weak. The three and the pair of condors continuously attacked, placing Li Mo Chou in their confinement. With the ability of the three, in a little while longer Li Mo Chou could definitely hurt one of them, and the other two will not be able to protect themselves. But in front of her were many enemies, if she attacked forwards it still won’t be easy for her, and if she forced the Guo couple to come out and attack, she wouldn’t be able to escape, she took back her flywhisk and chuckled, “Little babies, watch how the ‘Serpent Deity’ fight monkeys.”
    She unleashed six stances in a row, every stance aimed to harm, forcing Guo Fu and the Wu Brothers to scurry, leaping and jumping around to avoid the stances, they did look a bit like monkeys jumping around.
    Li Mo Chou stood on her left leg and laughed, she turned around and called out, “Ling Bo, let’s go!” The two of them ran away in a north west direction.
    Guo Fu called out, “She’s scared of us, go after them!” She ran after them. The Wu brothers utilized their lightness kung fu and followed.
    Li Mo Chou waved and brandished her flywhisk behind her, carefree and smoothly, not an ounce of dust rose from underneath her feet, she lightly floated away like walking slowly. Hong Ling Bo ran hurriedly. Guo Fu and the Wu brothers increased the energy in their legs but the distance between them and the Li Mo Chou master and disciple was getting further and further away. Only the pair of condors was faster, they repeatedly attacked. Wu Dun Ru saw that they would not be able to take their revenge today so he whistled and called the condors back.
    Ye Luu Qi and the others were afraid that the three of them would lose and hurried to meet up with them, only to see Guo Fu and the others return, they went forward and greeted them. All of them were young, and in just a few words they spoke with great joviality.
    Ye Luu Qi suddenly thought of something and called out, “Where’s brother Yang?”
    Wan Yan Ping said, “He left by himself. I asked him where he was going but he ignored me.” She hung her head down after she said this.
    Ye Luu Qi hurried to a hill and took a look all around, only to see the girl in blue green walking shoulder to shoulder with Lu Wu Shuang faraway, there wasn’t a trace of Yang Guo. Ye Luu Qi was as if he was at a lost, the first time they met they fought together against to repel an enemy, though it was just a short time, but their lives were on the line so many times and both shared a bitter hate for the enemy, now he has suddenly disappeared without a trace, it was as if he had lost an old friend.

    When Yang Guo saw the Wu brothers arrived, and with Guo Fu, they attacked Li Mo Chou, the three of them were very close, their sword skills they used were refined and in a few moves they had driven Li Mo Chou back. But he didn’t know that Li Mo Chou left because she was worried about the Guo couple and not because that buried within the sword stances were extremely strong internal energy, forcing her with no option but to flee. That day when Guo Jing took him to mount Zhong Nan to learn martial arts, he had seen him show his might, defeating countless Quan Zhen Taoists, his martial arts was extremely high. This was etched into Yang Guo’s young mind, he thought that disciples of Guo Jing would be ten times better than him, he had a thought of worrying about number one first, when he saw Guo Fu and the Wu’s unleash their superb stance, he assumed that must be some kind of ingenuity and mastery behind it. He was getting angrier as he watched on, he remembered how he had fought with the Wu brothers when they were younger, with Guo Fu by the side calling out, “Hit him harder, harder!” and remembered how Huang Rong deliberately chose not to teach him martial arts, and Guo Jing with his great skills did not dare to pass on any martial arts to him, sending him to Chong Yang Palace to suffer torture and abuse, he felt anger and hatred in his chest, he couldn’t stop himself, he saw Wan Yan Ping, Lu Wu Shuang, the girl in blue green, Ye Luu Yan all looking at him, they looked surprised and he thought, “You believe the insults that Li Mo Chou called out at my Gu Gu. It doesn’t matter if you looked down on me but how can you dare to look down on my Gu Gu? My face is angry because I’m angry at Guo Fu and the Wu brothers, uncle Guo and auntie Guo, you lot think that I’ve done unspeakable things with my Gu Gu and that’s why I look like this, isn’t it?” He suddenly ran away, he didn’t follow the main roads and just ran without thinking in their wild lands. Right now he couldn’t pull himself together, he thought that everyone in the world was against him, he didn’t remember the fact that he was wearing the human skin mask, although there was jealousy, hate and anger on his face, how could Wan Yan Ping and the others see this? Why would others laugh at him for no reason at all? Li Mo Chou’s infamy is well known throughout the wulin world, who can believe what she says?
    He originally was heading from northwest to southeast, but he wanted to get other from these people as far as possible so headed northwest instead. His heart was in a mess, he loathed the world, he took off his mask and ran madly in the wild hills and mountains. When he was hungry, he plucked some wild fruits and vegetables to cure his hunger. He travelled further and further, within a month, his face was wild and unkempt, his clothes old and torn, and reached a tall mountain. He didn’t know that this was one of the most famous five mountains in the world, mount Wah. He saw the mountain was dangerous and rugged, he became mad and climbed up the mountain furiously. Though his lightness kung fu was good, mount Wah is a dangerous place, one cannot climb it on a whim. By the time he was halfway up the mountain, the weather suddenly became cold, the grounds became hard, the north wind gradually blew closer, flakes of snow floated from the sky. His was angry and livid, he wanted to torture himself and did not find a place to avoid the snow, the stronger the wind and snow, the further he travelled. He carried on until the became night, the snow was heavy, the floor was slippery, it was even harder to recognise the paths, if he stepped into an empty space, he would definitely fall down to his death in the deep valleys. He didn’t care and looked lightly upon his life, he looked up and walked forward.
    After a while, he suddenly heard a light ‘chi’ ‘chi’ sound, it sounded like some kind of beast was travelling in the snow, he immediately turned around and saw the image of a person flash past, darting into a valley. Yang Guo was startled and quickly went over to take a look in the valley, he saw someone hooking his three fingers into the rock, hanging in midair. Yang Guo saw that the three fingers supported the whole body above the valley, this person’s martial arts were extremely high, it had reached an unimaginable level. So he politely greeted, “Old senior please come up!”
    The person laughed, his voice shaking the valley, his fingers pulled up and leapt up from the side of the mountain, the person suddenly shouted, “You are with the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border aren’t you? What are you doing sneaking around here in the middle of the night during a snowstorm?”
    Yang Guo was scolded for no reason and thought, “What am I doing sneaking around here in the middle of the night during a snowstorm?” This disturbed his thoughts and he suddenly let out a cry, remembering how unlucky he was, suffering the abuse of others, and his most respected and loved one Xiao Long Nuu blamed him for no reason and disappeared, they would probably never meet again in this lifetime, as he cried about this all his life’s worries and all the resentment and abuse he has suffered surfaced in his mind.
    When that person saw him cry he was shocked, he heard that he was getting more pitiful as he cried, and was even more surprised. When the person saw that his cries weren’t going to end he suddenly laughed out, the laugh and cry joined together and shook the snow down from the mountaintops.
    When Yang Guo heard the laugh, his cries stopped and he angrily said, “What are you laughing at?”
    The person laughed and said, “What are you crying about?”
    Yang Guo was about to reply with hate when he remembered this person’s martial arts were extraordinary, he calmed down his anger and politely bowed and said, “Junior is Yang Guo, I hereby greet senior.”
    The person held a bamboo rod in his hand, and he lightly pushed him on the arm, Yang Guo did not feel any greet force yet his body couldn’t stop falling backwards. With the force of that push, one would fall down and struggle to pick themselves up, but he has learnt the [Toad Stance] where one’s legs are above their head, he flipped over in the air and remained upright.
    Both of them could not have predicted what had just happened. With Yang Guo’s present abilities, making him fall in one push wasn’t easy, even Li Mo Chou or Qiu Chu Ji and the like couldn’t do this to him; the other person saw him standing up steadily after flipping over in midair, he opened his eyes and looked at him and asked, “Why are you crying?”
    When Yang Guo examined him, he was a white bearded and haired old man, the clothes on him were old and torn, it appeared that he was a beggar, although it was dark, the white snow reflected off him, there was a red glow on his face, he looked graceful, Yang Guo’s respect of him became evident and replied, “I’m a person with a life full of despair, there is no point in living, I should just die.”
    The old beggar heard his voice was full of resignation, he was filled with resentment, the beggar nodded his head and asked, “Who’s bullying you? Quickly tell grandpa.”
    Yang Guo said, “My father was killed by someone, but I don’t know who. My mother died due to illness, there is no one left in the world who loves and care for me.”
    The old beggar gave a ‘en’ grunt and said, “That is sad. Who is the master who taught you kung fu?”
    Yang Guo thought, “Auntie Guo technically was my master but she didn’t teach me any martial arts. Mentioning the Quan Zhen Taoists fills me with hate. Ou Yang Feng is my godfather, not my master. My kung fu was taught by Gu Gu, but she said she wants to be my wife, if I said she is my master she will be angry. Wong Chong Yang and Lin Chao Yang ancestors left their martial arts on in the stone room, how can I say they are my master? I have many masters but I can’t mention any of them.”
    This question disturbed his feelings again and he let out a cry again, calling out, “I don’t have a master, I don’t have a master!”
    The old beggar said, “Fine, fine! If you don’t want to say, fine.”
    Yang Guo sobbed, “It’s not that I don’t want to say, it’s just that I don’t have one.”
    The old beggar said, “If you haven’t got one, you haven’t got one, what need is there for crying? Do you know the Five Clowns of the Tibetan?”
    Yang Guo said, “I don’t know them.”
    The old beggar said, “I saw you alone about in the dark and thought that you were the friends of the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border, since you aren’t then that’s great.”
    This person was the nine-fingered wondrous beggar, Hong Qi Gong. After he passed on the position of the chief of the Beggar Clan to Huang Rong, he travelled alone, savouring the world’s finest foods. The weather of Guangdong was pleasant and the amount of exquisite food countless. After he went to Lingnan, he had all he wanted, over the last ten years, he has not returned to the central plains.
    In the lands of Guangdong, poisonous snakes were used in soups, tough cats were used in stews, fishes were like mice, the prawns were like dragons, fat snails were fried, dragon louses were steamed, the roast piglets had crisp skin, the flesh of simmered fruit were red, Hong Qi Gung was in heaven, his pleasure boundless. Whenever he sees injustice, he will secretly help, he killed evil and punished traitors, with his ability, no one knew where he was and where he went. Sometimes he would listen in on some Beggar Clan members talking, he knew that under the order of Huang Rong and Lu You Jiao, the Beggar Clan was calm, the internal fight between the ‘dirty’ clothed and ‘clean’ clothed factions was subsiding, so has the outside force of the Jin’s and the Iron Palm Clan. He had no worries, everyday he would just open his mouth, chew and swallow.
    This year, the second clown of the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border killed innocents in cold blood, killing numerous people. Hong Qi Gong wanted to take revenge, he was going to kill that clown but thought killing one person is easy, finding the other four would be hard so he secretly followed the second clown, waiting for him to met up with the other four and then kill them all at once, but he didn’t predict that he would have to follow him north for thousand of miles, eventually winding up to mount Wah. Right now, four clowns were present, only the first one had yet to arrive. In the middle of the night, he bumped into Yang Guo in the snow.
    Hong Qi Gong said, “Let’s stop chatting, I can see you are hungry, let’s cure our hunger first and then we’ll talk some more.” He cleared the snow and found some firewood and made a fire. Yang Guo helped him pick up some firewood and said, “What are you going to cook?”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “Centipedes!”
    Yang Guo knew he was joking and he gave a chuckle and didn’t ask again.
    Hong Qi Gong laughed and said, “I’ve chased the Five Tibetan Border Clowns from Lingnan to mount Wah, if I don’t have something good to eat, how can I say sorry to this?” He patted his stomach. Yang Guo saw that his bones and muscles were distinguished, only his stomach was a bit superfluous.
    Hong Qi Gong continued, “Mount Wah is the world’s most cold and shady place, centipedes that are born here are soft and tender. Guangdong is a warm place, living things grow quickly, the centipedes here have tough and coarse flesh.
    Yang Guo heard that he was serious, it seems that he wasn’t joking, Yang Guo was confused.
    Hong Qi Gong surrounded the fire with four stones, he took a pan from his back and placed it on the stones, he took two lumps of snow and placed it in the pan and said, “Follow me in catching some centipedes.”
    After some up and downs, they came across a twenty feet tall Cliffside. Yang Guo saw the cliff was extremely steep and didn’t dare to leap up.
    Hong Qi Gong called out, “Useless boy, quickly come up!”
    Yang Guo hated people who looked down on him, when he heard this he bit down on his teeth, his spirit rose and thought, “What’s there to be scared of? If I fall to death then so be it.” His courage thickened, there was more intent in his lightness kung fu when he used it, he followed closely to Hong Qi Gong, in an extremely dangerous and slippery place, he actually managed to pull himself up.
    In a short while, the pair climbed up to a peak where there were traces of human activity. Hong Qi Gong saw that he possessed such courage and lightness kung fu and was very pleased, with his experience he couldn’t tell the boy’s martial arts origins, he wanted to ask but remembered about his food so he went over to a rock and dug the soil with his hands. Not long, a dead chicken was revealed.
    Yang Guo was curious and asked, “Hey, how come there’s a chicken here.” He immediately understood and said, “Ah, senior must have buried it here.”
    Hong Qi Gong gave a chuckle and picked up the chicken. Yang Guo could see clearly under the reflection of the snow, he saw over a hundred centipedes, each about seven, eight inches long, biting onto the chicken, the centipedes were large and were stripy with red and black, they were all wiggling about. He has wandered around the world of Jiang Hu ever since he was young, he wasn’t afraid of poison but when he suddenly saw the large centipedes he couldn’t refrain from being afraid.
    Hong Qi Gong was pleased with himself and said, “Centipedes and chickens are of the opposite nature, I buried this chicken yesterday and indeed it has lured centipedes from all over.” He took out a bundle of cloth and wrapped it around the chicken and centipede, he descended the peak delightedly.
    Yang Guo followed behind wondering, “Could it be that you can actually eat centipedes? But judging from his actions, it doesn’t seem like he’s scaring me.”
    The lumps of snow in the pan had now turned to boiling water, Hong Qi Gong opened his bundle and picked up the centipedes by the tale, and threw them into the pan. The centipedes struggled for a while but were soon burned to death.
    Hong Qi Gong said, “Before it dies, the centipedes excretes all of its poison, the poison in that pan is incomparable.” Yang Guo threw the pan of poison water down the valley. Hong Qi Gong took out a small knife and chopped off the heads and tails of the centipedes. He took the shell off to reveal the flesh, it was white as snow and was like a large shrimp, it was quite an attractive sight.
    Yang Guo thought, “With this method, I’m afraid that you can really eat it.”
    Hong Qi Gong melted another two lumps of snow and cleaned the flesh of the centipede so there would be no traces of poison, and then he took out seven, eight small and large boxes from his back pack, in the boxes were ingredients such as oil, salt, jams, vinegar and the like. He placed some oil in the pan and fried the centipedes, immediately an appetising scent flowed into the nose. Yang Guo saw that he was drooling, revealing his glutton side, he couldn’t stop himself from being startled and laugh at the same time.
    Hong Qi Gong fried the centipedes until they were slightly golden, and then mixed in some other ingredients. He stretched out his hand and placed an centipede in his mouth, he lightly bit it a few times and closed his eyes, he sighed and felt none of the pleasures in the world can be compare with this. He took a wine gourd from his back and placed it by the side and said, “When eating centipedes don’t drink wine, otherwise the taste of the centipedes will be ruined.” He ate ten or so centipedes in one go and then said to Yang Guo, “Just eat, why are you being so polite?”
    Yang Guo his head and said, “I don’t want to eat.”
    Hong Qi Gong was startled and then laughed, he said, “That’s right, that’s right, I’ve seen many heroes and good men who can kill without blinking but none of them dare to eat centipedes with this old beggar, hei hei, so you are just a cowardly punk.”
    Yang Guo angered by him and thought, “I’ll close my eyes and swallow without chewing, this’ll stop him from looking down on me.”
    He picked up two small twigs and used them as chopsticks and picked up a centipede. Hong Qi Gong knew what he was thinking and said, “You are going to close your eyes and swallow without chewing, that’s called being a scoundrel, not a hero.”
    Yang Guo said, “What’s so heroic about eating poison?”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “There are many people who talk big and class themselves as heroes, but those who dare to eat centipedes are few and far between.”
    Yang Guo thought, “Nothing is bigger than death.” He placed the centipede in his mouth and bit down. As soon as he bit down, he felt his mouth filled with a sweet taste, it was crisp and fragrant and extremely sweet, he has never tasted anything like it in his life, he chewed a few more times and swallowed, and then picked up a second centipede and said, “Extraordinary, extraordinary.”
    Hong Qi Gong saw that he was eating it with pleasure and was delighted. The two of them grabbed and snatched, the hundred or so centipedes were all gone. Hong Qi Gong licked the juices around his lips and wished that there could be another hundred centipedes for his stomach.
    Yang Guo said, “I’ll go and bury the chicken again, luring some more centipedes.”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “It’s no use, one, the chicken has lost it’s attraction, secondly, there aren’t anymore fat and large centipedes around here anymore.” Hong Qi Gong stretched and yawned, he got down onto snowy ground and said, “I have rushed here without sleeping for five days and five nights, now that I’ve had a great meal, I’m going to sleep for three days, don’t wake me even if the sky falls down. Look after me, don’t let any monsters bite my half my head off in one go while I’m not aware.”
    Yang Guo laughed, “Yes sir.” Hong Qi Gong closed his eyes and in a short while, he fell into a deep sleep.
    Yang Guo thought, “This senior is really an extraordinary person. Is he really going to sleep for three days? It doesn’t matter if he’s lying or telling the truth, I have nowhere to go anyway, I’ll just wait for three days.”
    The mount Wah centipedes are one of the coolest objects in the world, after Yang Guo ate them, he felt a chill in his stomach so he found a rock to sit on and after a while of meditating, his body became more comfortable. Right now the sky was filled with snow that was like the feathers of swans, it snowed without stopping. Hong Qi Gong’s head and body was covered with snow, he was like a lump of cotton wool. A person has warm air, as soon as a snowflake meets it, it will immediately melt, how did the snow remain intact o his face? Yang Guo did not understand at first but then it was clear to him, “That’s it, when he is sleeping he is circulating his divine internal energy, keeping the warm air within his body. He is a living person, but when he is sleeping he looks like a corpse, this level of internal energy is frightening. Gu Gu let me sleep on the chilled bed in hope that I will be able to refine my internal energy to a such profound state. Ai… chilled jade bed, chilled jade bed”
    It became dawn. Hong Qi Gong’s body was buried within the snow, nothing could be seen where he was except for the fact that the ground was higher. Yang Guo was not tired, everywhere was deep in snow. He suddenly heard footsteps in the snow by the mountains in the northeast, he looked carefully and saw five black shadows approaching, their movements were rapid, the sabres on the backs glittered.
    Yang Guo thought, “They are probably the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border that senior mentioned.” He hid behind a large rock.
    In a short while, the five people arrived in front of the rock. One of them said ‘ah’, and called out, “It’s the old beggars gourd!”
    Another one’s voice quivered as he said, “He’s…he’s on mount Wah?” The five of them were frightened, they came together and quietly consulted with each other. Suddenly, the five of them separated, and descended down the peak. The paths of the peak were narrow, one of them dashed forward a few steps and stepped onto Hong Qi Gong, and felt something soft below their legs. The person called out ‘ai’. The other four stopped and drew near, they wiped away the layers of snow and saw Hong Qi Gong’s lying on the floor, appearing as if he had died a long time ago.
    The five of them were delighted, they stretched out their finger across his noise, there was no breathing, his body was as cold as ice. The five of them shouted out in joy and leapt about, they were a hundred times happier than the joy they would feel if they found precious treasures.
    One of them said, “The old beggar has been following all along, he has made things hard for me. So he died here.”
    Another person said, “Hong Qi Gong that scoundrel has extraordinary martial arts, why would he die all of a sudden?”
    Another one said, “Even if one’s martial arts are high, does that mean they don’t have to die? Just think, that old scoundrel it pretty old.”
    The other four called out together, “It’s lucky that the devil has come and taken him, otherwise he’ll be difficult to handle.”
    The one ranked first said, “Come, let’s vent our anger on the old beggar by chopping him a few times. Let him be the nine fingered wondrous beggar Hong Qi Gong hero of the world, in the end, he’s going to end up being chopped into seventeen, twenty eight pieces by the Five Heroes of the Tibetan Border.”
    Yang Guo thought, “So that old senior is Hong Qi Gong, no wonder his martial arts are so good.”
    He has heard Hong Qi Gong’s name and his famous [Eighteen Subduing Dragon Palms] from Xiao Long Nuu before when they were talking, but Hong Qi Gong’s appearance and behaviour weren’t knowing to Lin Chao Ying let along Xiao Long Nuu. His hand held some ‘Jade Bee Needles’, thinking fighting the five of them together would be hard, he could only ambush them with his projectile, after hurting two or three of them, he could deal with the remaining others. But he heard them say that they will chop up Hong Qi Gong to vent their anger, he was afraid that they will harm Hong Qi Gong, he didn’t shoot out the needles and immediately shouted out and leapt out from behind the rock. He didn’t have a weapon and picked up two twigs, he quickly unleashed his swift stances diverting the five. The five stances were extremely fast, it was a pity that he called out first and gave the five clowns some time to prepare, otherwise one or two of them would be hit. The five clowns were worried about themselves first and darted and dodged away to avoid the attacks.
    The five turned around and saw it was a young kid with old and torn garments, his hands holding two branches, their fright that had just now had dissipated.
    The big clown shouted, “Little punk, you’re a little beggar of the Beggar Clan aren’t you? Your old beggar ancestor has gone to heaven, quickly kneel and kowtow to us five masters.”
    Yang Guo saw how they moved; their movements revealed their kung fu. The five of them had a large sabre on their backs, their kung fu comes from the same master, there was some difference between their abilities but they all have the same type of stances. If it was one on one, he would definitely win, but if the five of them attacked all at once he would not be able to fight them off, he heard the big clown telling him to kowtow and replied, “Yes, junior here will kowtow to the five masters.” He took a step forward and bowed down. He kneeled and bowed according to the stance [First Greet Bow After], this move was used by Grandma Sun on the Quan Zhen Taoist Zhang Zhi Guang when he wasn’t expecting it, an empty container shot out and almost took his eye, right now, after Yang Guo used the stance [First Greet Bow After], he followed with a stance of [Push the Window to see the Moon], his arms swept across and the two branches came out from the left and right. On his left was the fifth clown; on his right was the third clown. This stance of [Push the Window to see the Moon] was extremely evil, the third clown’s kung fu was quite high, he quickly bought down his sabres to block it. The back of his sabre had been struck and his hand heated up, almost losing his sabre. The fifth clown was struck on the leg, a ‘ka la’ sound was heard, although the leg wasn’t broken it was still painful, he couldn’t stand up. The other four clowns were angry, four sabres chopped down, ‘fu fu fu fu’. Yang Guo was swift and nimble, he darted east and dodged west, the four clowns couldn’t do anything to him for the time being. After fighting for a while, the fifth clown joined in, he was extremely angry and fought with his life.
    Yang Guo’s lightness kung fu was much higher than the five clowns, if he wanted to escape it wasn’t hard, but he remembered Hong Qi Gong, he was afraid that if he leaves then the clowns will kill Hong Qi Gong. But he couldn’t beat the five of them fighting together, he unleashed some dangerous stances and in the middle of it he bent down and picked up Hong Qi Gong, his right hand fought with the branch as he found a path to escape. He took a deep breath and hurried over a hundred feet. The Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border chased after him.
    Yang Guo felt that Hong Qi Gong was icy cold, he couldn’t stop himself form being alarmed. He thought that if Hong Qi Gong was going to get in deeper into his sleep he won’t be able to wake up, could it be that he really was dead? He called out, “Senior, senior!”
    Hong Qi Gong didn’t move an inch, it appeared that he was dead but he wasn’t stiff like a corpse. Yang Guo stretched out his hand and felt his chest, there seemed to be a faint heartbeat but there were no indication of breathing from the nose.
    In this pause, the first clown caught up with them, but because he saw that Yang Guo’s skills were excellent, he was worried and didn’t dare to fight alone, by the time the second clown and four clown arrived, Yang Guo had gone another hundred feet. The Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border saw him ascending the peak and saw that there was only one road up there, they thought could it be that you know how to fly? There was no need to rush, the followed step by step.
    The mountain path was getting more and more treacherous as he went on, after Yang Guo turned around a corner, he saw an extremely narrow path before him. It wasn’t easy for one person to past. By the narrow path was a ten thousand feet deep abyss, the mist obscured the bottom of the abyss, he thought, “This is the best place, I’ll fend them off here.” He quickened his pace and got over the narrow path, he placed Hong Qi Gong down by a large rock and turned around, the first clown had reached the entrance of the narrow path.
    Yang Guo dashed over and shouted, “Ugly freak, do you dare to come over?”
    The first clown was really scared of being knocked over into the abyss by Yang Guo and hurriedly leapt back. Yang Guo stood at the entrance of the path, the morning sun was now in the sky, the eyes can see a fine jade mountain, gems circled the floor, the sunlight reflected off the white snow, the scene was magnificent.
    Yang Guo placed the human skin mask on his face and shouted, “Are you ugly or am I ugly?”
    The Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border were ugly, but there weren’t that ugly, the ‘Clown’ comes from their actions and the amount of crap they talk on the road. They saw Yang Guo touch his face and his face changed, his face yellow, the face looked wooden, like a corpse out of a cemetery, the five clowns looked at each other and all without exception was startled.
    Yang Guo retreated to the narrowest point on the path, he used [The Kicking Force of the Leading Star], his left leg stood on the ground, his right leg kicked out at the sky, his body moving lightly like the wind in midair. In the blink of an eye, his heroic air emerged, even if the enemy were thousand of soldiers and ten thousand of horses, I would still block them with one man like this.
    The five clowns muttered in their hearts, “Where from the Beggar Clan did this strange young kid come out from?” They saw that in front of them was dangerous ground, they didn’t dare to rush through and all of them consulted each other, “We’ll wait here and take turns to leave the mountain for food, within two days, he would definitely have no strength due to hunger.” Four of the clowns lined up at the mouth of the bridge and let the second clown descend the mountain to look for food.
    Both sides were deadlocked, Yang Guo didn’t dare to go over, the four clowns didn’t dare to go over either.
    By the second day, the second clown had come back with food, the five clowns took big bites and ate noisily. Yang Guo was already burning up with hunger, he turned around and looked at Hong Qi Gong and saw him looking the same as the day before and thought, “If he is sleeping, then he would toss and turn in his dreams, but he hasn’t moved an inch, I’m afraid that he really is dead. If I endure another day, I will have no strength, it will be even harder for me to defend, why don’t I leave now and I may have a chance of escaping.” He slowly stood up and thought, “He told me that he is going to sleep for three days and told me to look after him, I promised him with my own mouth, how can I leave him now?” He fought off the hunger and closed his eyes to rest.
    By the third day, Hong Qi Gong was still motionless like he was on the first day, Yang Guo looked on and began to question himself, “He’s already dead, and I’m still guarding him not leaving, that’s too dumb. If I endure another half a day of hunger, there would be no need for the five clowns to kill me, I would have already died due to hunger.” He picked up some snow on the rocks and swallowed some, his empty stomach gradually felt a bit better. He thought, “I haven’t been filial to my parents, I have hurt Gu Gu, I have no brothers or sisters, I haven’t even got a best friend, I should stop mentioning the words ‘personal loyalty’. The word ‘trust’, good and bad, I need to guard him.” He continued, “When auntie Guo and me were talking about literature, we talked about the meeting of an boy and girl underneath the bridge, the girl was stopped by a flood but the boy didn’t dare to lose the meeting, he held onto the bridge and died in vain, later, that person was famous for hundreds of years. I Yang Guo have suffered the world’s mistreatment, if I don’t keep to this promise then I’ll be even more despised by the world, even if it means death, I must guard him for three days.”
    A day and night passed by in the wink of an eye, early on in the fourth day, Yang Guo went over to Hong Qi Gong and checked his breathing, still there was no sign. He sighed and saluted him saying, “Senior Hong, I have kept to my promise of guarding you for three days, it’s too bad that senior has passed away tragically. Disciple has not got the power to protect your corpse, it would be best if I throw you into the deep valley and avoid the insults and disrespect of the scoundrels.” He picked up his body and went over to the narrow path.
    The five clowns knew that he couldn’t endure the hunger and now wanted to escape, they all called out and flew over. Yang Guo gave a shout and flung Hong Qi Gong down the deep valley, and dashed forward to the first clown.

    End of Chapter 10
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    More translation goodness. Almost had a seizure here <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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    HK47: As do I. It is our lot in life I suppose master. Shall we find something to kill to cheer ourselves up?

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    TVB series never showed this. I always thought htat the first time that H7G made his apperance was at the Wah Shan just before his death.
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    I don't know if I've misinterpreted what you are saying but this bit with H7G was in both TVB versions. This bit is the Wah Shan bit...
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    Great effort all along Noodles!
    I had no Net access for a week & there was nothing i missed more than this translation!
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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="80%" bgcolor="#dcdcdc" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" bgcolor="#DCDCDC"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><font size="1">Originally posted by Han Solo:
    <STRONG>TVB series never showed this. I always thought htat the first time that H7G made his apperance was at the Wah Shan just before his death.</STRONG></font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Made a mistake, i meant to say that i thought that HYS appeared and fought off Li Mo Chou before the hero's gathering....
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    Cool

    HYS had at the very beginning when he rescued Chen Ying.

    Both TVB versions showed this.
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    Just forget what i said about the H7G and HYs and stuff. I goofed up big time.

    Now to a question: I always have the impression that the Tibetian Clowns were quite weak, but in the translations above, even YG at this stage of after training in the Ancient Tomb Sect's highest kungfu are still not confident of defeating all five of them. Earlier we saw YG beating with ease some of the beggar clan's elders. Now does this meant that the Tibetian Clowns are at least in terms of skills at the level of the third generation Taoists of the Cheun Jen Sect?
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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="80%" bgcolor="#dcdcdc" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" bgcolor="#DCDCDC"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><font size="1">Originally posted by Han Solo:
    <STRONG>Just forget what i said about the H7G and HYs and stuff. I goofed up big time.

    Now to a question: I always have the impression that the Tibetian Clowns were quite weak, but in the translations above, even YG at this stage of after training in the Ancient Tomb Sect's highest kungfu are still not confident of defeating all five of them. Earlier we saw YG beating with ease some of the beggar clan's elders. Now does this meant that the Tibetian Clowns are at least in terms of skills at the level of the third generation Taoists of the Cheun Jen Sect?</STRONG></font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Actually, YG wasn't a match for the 2 8 pocket beggars if it they didn't have their doubts and kind of got tricked by YG's moves. 2 on 1, YG is not a match for those two 8 pocket beggars at that stage of his life. The same goes with the 5 Tibetan guys. He can beat them one-on-one, but no way can he beat them 5-on-1. I think you probably got that impression from the 84 TVB version, which made no sense at all! It was told in that version that YG, at that stage, can beat up all 5 of them at once. But that's stupid cause if he was capable of doing it, why didn't he just beat them up instead of guarding over H7G's body for 3 days while those 5 looked on??? Man, TVB must have wasted some expensive toilet paper on that part! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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    Chapter 11

    A Pause From Roaming

    Yang Guo dashed forward only two steps when suddenly a gust of wind brushed over his head, a person darted over his head and stood between him and the five clowns and laughed, “That was a great slumber!” It was the nine-fingered wondrous beggar Hong Qi Gong. Yang Guo was delighted while the five clowns were startled and shocked. When Hong Qi Gong first lied down on the snow he really was sleeping, but was woken up when the fifth clown stepped on him. He wanted to test the young man and see whether the young man can keep to his promise of guarding him for three days. Every time Yang Guo checked his breathing, he would stop breathing and pretended to be dead. Now he was standing at the mouth of the path with an awe-inspiring air. His left hand made a semi circle, his right hand pushed out a palm, it was his life’s most proudest work, the stance of [Overcoming the Dragon with Regret] from the [Eighteen Dragon Subduing Palms]. The first clown couldn’t avoid it, he knew he couldn’t meet this stance head on but all he could was to push his palms out and use his strength to fend off the attack.
    Hong Qi Gong was keeping his palm’s power in check, he only used ten percent of his internal energy but the first clown felt his arms go numb and his chest ached. The second clown saw that his was in danger, he was afraid that Hong Qi Gong’s palms will force him into the deep valley so he quickly stretched out his hand and pushed the first clown’s back. Hong Qi Gong’s palm power increased, the second clown moved back, almost slipping down into the deep valley. The fourth clown was standing behind them and stretched out his arm to support them. Hong Qi Gong’s palm’s power spread through them, it spread towards the fourth clown who in turn passed it onto the third clown and the third clown spread it towards the final one in the line, the fifth clown. The clowns had nowhere to hide and nowhere to run, in the blink of an eye, they were defeated by Hong Qi Gong’s single palm.
    Hong Qi Gong laughed, “You five scoundrels are evil and wicked, you should be able to die without complaints under the single palm of old beggar.”
    The five of them steadied themselves into the mount posture, they flared up their chi and united their internal energy to resist the single palm but they felt the force of the palm getting heavier, their chests felt tighter and gradually it was becoming more difficult to take a breath.
    Hong Qi Gong suddenly gave out an ‘yi’ call showing his surprise, he took back eighty percent of his palm’s power and said, “Your internal energy has its good points, who is your master?”
    The first clown still had his two palms pushing out against him, he struggled for breath as he said, “We are… are under the tutelage of master Da Er Ba.”
    Hong Qi Gong shook his head and said, “Da Er Ba? Haven’t heard of him. Hmm, your internal energy can be spread mutually to each other, this kung fu is terrific.”
    Yang Guo thought, “To get Hong Qi Gong to say ‘terrific’, then it really must be terrific. Yet when I looked at their skills I thought they were very ordinary and none of them can beat me.”
    Hong Qi Gong asked, “What’s your sect?”
    The first clown said, “Our master is… is the second… second disciple of Western Tibet’s Holy… Holy Monk Jin Lun Fa Wang.”
    Hong Qi Gong shook his head again, and said, “Western Tibet’s Holy Monk, Jin Lun Fa Wang? Never heard of him. Western Tibet has a monk, his name is Ling Zhi Shang Ren, he I have seen, his kung fu is stronger than yours but his skills aren’t advance. Your kung fu is good, hmm, it makes sense. Go and get your grandmaster here to fight with me.”
    The first monk replied, “Our grandmaster is a holy monk, the living Buddha, Mongolia’s number one martial artist, all knowing and all powerful. How…how…”
    The second clown noticed from Hong Qi Gong’s tone that he was going to spare them, but with the way that the first clown was replying they are cutting off their escape route so he quickly interrupted and said, “Yes, yes. We’ll quickly go and get our grandmaster here to duel with Hong Qi Gong. Only our grandmaster can fight with senior Hong. Us juniors will raise our wine gourds and… and…”
    As he said this, a ‘duo’ ‘duo’ ‘duo’ sound, a person appeared from around the mountain corner, his body was upside down, his hands each holding a piece of rock, walking with his palms, it was Western Poison Ou Yang Feng.
    Yang Guo’s voice cracked as he called out, “Father!”
    Ou Yang Feng did not bother to find out what was happening and leapt behind the five clowns and stretched out his right foot and placed it on their backs, a strong energy rushed through the five clowns.
    Hong Qi Gong was shocked with the sudden appearance of Ou Yang Feng, he heard Yang Guo call him ‘father’ and understood that he was his son, no wonder he was so good. He felt his arm sunk as the opponent’s internal energy reached him, he quickly increased his strength and returned the attack.
    Even since the second mount Wah competition, Hong Qi Gong has not seen Ou Yang Feng for over then years. Although Ou Yang Feng’s mind was unclear, he practised the [Contrary Nine Yin Manual], the more he practised the stranger his kung fu became, the stranger it became the more powerful he became.
    Guo Jing and Huang Rong had recited a small portion of the manual to Hong Qi Gong, it made an impression on his kung fu and made great progress in his martial arts. The final stage of the [Nine Yin Manual] is superior to the [Contrary Nine Yin Manual], although Hong Qi Gong only knew a little, he wasn’t inferior to Ou Yang Feng.
    Tens of years ago it was difficult to separate the two, since then they have both met new boundaries, today they came across each other on mount Wah for the third time, once internal energy was sent out, it was indeed hard to differentiate between the two.
    The ones that should be pitied are the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border being sandwiched between two of the world’s most powerful fighters, they became the apparatus for kung fu practice, a sandbag for punches and kicks, they were cold for a while, then hot for a while, their breathing was tight and then slow, the bones all over their body made ‘ka la’ noises, it was a hundred times more excruciating than the most severe punishments.
    Ou Yang Feng suddenly asked, “The five’s internal energy is very good. What sect are you from?”
    Yang Guo thought, “Even godfather say their internal energy is very good, the five clowns indeed are not run of the mill fighters.”
    He heard Hong Qi Gong say, “They said they are the grand disciples of Western Tibet’s Holy Monk Jin Lun Fa Wang.”
    Ou Yang Feng said, “That Jin Lun Fa Wang compared to you, who’s better?”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “Don’t know, I don’t think there’s much difference.”
    Ou Yang Feng said, “How about compared with me?”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “He’s better than you a bit.”
    Ou Yang Feng was shocked and called out, “I don’t believe it!”
    In between the exchange of words, the energy in the hand and foot increased. Hong Qi Gong sent out different levels of palms energy but were all dispersed by Ou Yang Feng’s foot energies; the power in the foot increased but it was difficult to move Hong Qi Gong back even half an inch. After this exchange both admired each other, they laughed and jumped back.
    The strong force within the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border suddenly disappeared, they couldn’t stop themselves wobbling about as if they were drunk on wine. The five had the internal energies of two great fighters circulated to and fro between them, their internal organs have been seriously injured, the muscles weakened and bones softened, they have become invalids, they won’t be able to fight off even a small child of around seven, eight years of age.
    Hong Qi Gong shouted, “You five scoundrels, your lifelines haven’t reached its end today, it doesn’t matter anyway since you can't do harm anymore, just crawl away. Remember to go and tell your grandmaster Jin Lun Fa Wang to come to the central plains and find me so we can have a little spar.”
    Ou Yang Feng said, “With me too.”
    The Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border all agreed and limped away, supporting each other as they scampered down the peak.
    Ou Yang Feng flipped upright and stared at Hung Qi Gong and shouted, “Hey, your kung fu is very good, what’s your name.”
    After hearing this and seeing his face seemed to be confused and unclear, Hong Qi Gong knew that after he went mad over then years ago, he hasn’t recovered and so said, “I’m called Ou Yang Feng, what’s your name?”
    Ou Yang Feng’s heart shook, he felt that the words ‘Ou Yang Feng’ were very familiar but he couldn’t remember what he was called, and he shook his head and said, “I don’t know. Hey, what am I called?”
    Hong Qi Gong laughed and said, “You don’t even know your own name. Go home and think about it.”
    Ou Yang Feng angrily said, “You must know, tell me.”
    Hong Qi Gong said, “Fine, you’re called Smelly Toad.”
    The word ‘Toad’ was very familiar to Ou Yang Feng, when he heard this it felt right, but there was also a feeling that this was wrong.
    He and Hong Qi Gong have been adversaries for tens of years, the hate has been etched deeply into his mind, although he didn’t understand right now, when he saw him, Ou Yang Feng was still aggravated. Hong Qi Gong saw him standing there in a daze, a fierce glow was in his eye, Hong Qi Gong secretly put his guard up, indeed he heard Ou Yang Feng shout out and ruthlessly threw himself forward, he didn’t dare to hesitate and immediately used his [Eighteen Dragon Subduing Palms]. The two fought in the wind and the slippery snow on a narrow path that was only about an inch wide, using their greatest skills with great effort in the battle. On one side was a ten thousand feet deep chasm, just one little mistake and they will fall to their deaths, this was much more dangerous than fighting on flat, even ground. The two of them were now fairly old, though their vigour has fallen back, their study of martial arts have reached an extremely pure level, the stances were pure and profound, so profound that everything was ingenious and masterly, only ten or so moves were exchanged and the two couldn’t stop themselves from admiring each other.
    Ou Yang Feng said, “The old beggar is very lethal.”
    Hong Qi Gong laughed and said, “Smelly Toad is also terrific.”
    Yang Guo saw that the terrain was extremely dangerous, he was afraid that Ou Yang Feng would drop down into the valley, but sometimes he would see Hong Qi Gong in distress and hoped that he would be safe. Ou Yang Feng was his godfather, he had deep feelings for him, nevertheless, Hong Qi Gong was gallant, he had the air of a great hero around him, as soon as he saw him an impression was left in his heart. He endured hunger, cold, extreme dangers in guarding Hong Qi Gong for three days and three nights, although they didn’t say a word to each other in the three days, in Yang Guo’s mind, it was like as if they both endured hundreds and hundreds of life threatening dangers together.
    After tens of stances later, Yang Guo saw that the two’s incomparable swift and powerful attacks were turned from danger into safety, he soon forgot about the safety of the two and concentrated on watching the mastery kung fu that was on display. The [Nine Yin Manual] is at the peak of the world’s martial arts, he only knew odd fragments of it, now he saw the two use the theories of the manual with their stances he couldn’t stop himself from being shocked and surprised, he thought, “So even an ordinary sentence of the manual has so many ways to express it.”
    Over a thousand stances passed, although the two had yet to use all their skills, their age was catching up with them, they felt they were getting out of breath and their heart beating fast, it was unavoidable that their arms and legs would get slower.”
    Yang Guo called out, “You two have been fighting for over half a day, you must be hungry, how about eating first and then carry on later?”
    As soon as Hong Qi Gong heard the word ‘eat’ he immediately jumped back and said, “Great idea, great idea!”
    Yang Guo had seen the fifth clown bought up cold food in a bamboo basket and placed it to the side. He went over and bought it over and then opened the lid, he saw cold chicken and meat, white wine and cold rice, everything that was needed was there. Hong Qi Gong was delighted, he picked up a cold chicken and bit down with large bits hurriedly, eating noisily.
    Yang Guo picked up some cold meat and passed it to Ou Yang Feng and softly said, “Father, where have you been during this time?”
    Ou Yang Feng stared at him and said, “I’ve been searching for you.”
    Yang Guo’s heart ached and thought, “There is someone on this world that actually loves me like this.” He held his arm and said, “Father, you are Ou Yang Feng. That senior Hong is a good person, don’t fight him.”
    Ou Yang Feng pointed to Hong Qi Gong and said, “He’s Ou Yang Feng, Ou Yang Feng is a bad person.” Yang Guo saw that his mind was confused and was sad.
    Hong Qi Gong laughed and said, “You’re right, Ou Yang Feng is a bad person, OU Yang Feng deserves to die.”
    Ou Yang Feng looked at Hong Qi Gong and then at Yang Guo, he exhausted his strength to remember but his mind and memories were still scrambled.
    Yang Guo fed Ou Yang Feng some food and then stood up, he said to Hong Qi Gong, “Senior Hong, he is my godfather. He has a severe mental illness, his mind is confused, please pity him and don’t make it hard for him.”
    Hong Qi Gong heard this and nodded a few times, and said, “Young man, so he’s your godfather.”
    Who could have expected that Ou Yang Feng would suddenly leapt up and called out, “Ou Yang Feng, we can’t find a winner using our fists and kicks, we’ll compete again using weapons.”
    Hong Qi Gong shook his head and said, “There’s no need to compete, let’s just say you win.”
    Ou Yang Feng said, “What win or lose? I must kill you.” He stretched out his hand and broke off a branch, he took off the twigs and leaves of the branch forming a staff, and attacked downwards of Hong Qi Gong’s head. His snake staff was famous years ago, it was extremely lethal, although there wasn’t a snake at the head of the staff, before the attack arrived, the wind produced was so strong that it made if difficult for Yang Guo to breathe. Yang Guo quickly dived out of the way, when he looked up at Hong Qi Gong, he saw him pick up a branch and used it as a short rod, the two battled again. Hong Qi Gong’s [Dog Beating Stick Technique] has nothing like it in the world, but he won’t use it easily, apart from this technique, he has many refined and ingenious rod stances, right now he was using them.
    This heated battle was another spectacular fight like the last one with fists and kicks, the stick was like an eluding dragon, the staff like an efficacious snake dancing, it was like a rainbow travelling in the sky or like an shooting star chasing after the moon, the fight held Yang Guo in a trance as he watched.
    The two’s staff and stick went to and fro, they fought until dusk, and again it was difficult to separate the two. Yang Guo saw that the ground was extremely dangerous, the mountains was full of ice and snow and was extremely slippery, the two of them are old, if they fought for much longer they would definitely loose their footing so he loudly called out, telling them to stop. But Hong Qi Gong and Ou Yang Feng were fighting with great pleasure, why would they stop? Yang Guo saw that mentioning food to Hong Qi Gong made him stopped, he thought that luring him with good food would be an effective way so he went to the wild mountainside and dug up some mountain herbs and yams, started a fire and roasted them.
    Hong Qi Gong smelt the fragrant scent and called out, “Smelly Toad, I don’t want to fight with you, eating is more important.” He ran to Yang Guo’s side and picked up two clumps of mountain herbs and ate it, although it burnt his mouth he kept on biting at it. Ou Yang Feng rushed over and raised his staff over Hong Qi Gong’s head chopping down. Hong Qi Gong ignored him and threw him a clump of the mountain herbs and called out, “Just eat!” Ou Yang Feng stopped. He caught it and started to eat it, forgetting about that heated battle there were just in.
    That night the three of them slept in a cave. Yang Guo wanted to help his godfather regain his memories and mentioned past events to him. Ou Yang Feng stood there in a daze not replying, sometimes he would hit his head with his fist, showing that he’s trying extremely hard to remember but he could not remember anything, it was extremely hard for him. Yang Guo worried that he would get even crazier so made him go to sleep, he himself was tossing and turning and couldn’t sleep, he was thinking about the fist and palm stances that the two used, the more he thought about it the more excited he got. He couldn’t stop himself and got up quietly studying them, he felt that the ingenuity and mastery of the stances were boundless, he practised until the middle of the night until he was extremely tired and went to sleep.
    The next morning, Yang Guo had not woken up from his sleep when he heard gusts of wind from outside the cave, in between them were the sounds of leaping and jumping, he quickly hurried outside to see Hong Qi Gong and Ou Yang Feng battling each other heatedly again.
    He sighed and thought, “These two old seniors aren’t acting their age, what’s the point of fighting like this?” He could only sit by the side and watch. He saw Hong Qi Gong’s stances and understood every stance and every move but it was difficult for him to grasp Ou Yang Feng’s strange stances, every time Hong Qi Gong seemed to gain the upper hand, Ou Yang Feng’s strange stances would bring them level pegging again.
    The two of them battled in the day and slept at night, they fought for four days running, both of them were tired and exhausted but neither of them dared to let slip even half a stance.
    Yang Guo pondered, “Whatever happens tomorrow I mustn’t allow them to fight again.” That night he waited for Ou Yang Feng to go to sleep and then quietly said to Hong Qi Gong, “Senior, please come outside, I have something to say.” Hong Qi Gong followed him outside. About a hundred feet away from the cave, Yang Guo suddenly got down on his knees, and kept on kowtowing, yet he didn’t say a word. Hong Qi Gong was startled but understood, he knew that Yang Guo wants himself to have pity on Ou Yang Feng and his illness, and leave, he laughed at the sky and said, “So be it.”
    After only walking away for a few tens of feet, his garments was held in a gust of wind, Ou Yang Feng darted out of the cave and swept his staff angrily shouting, “Old beggar, trying to escape?”
    Hong Qi Gong conceded three stances to him as he tried to find a path to escape but he was held up by the gusts of wind created by the staff. When skilled fighters are duelling, one mustn’t concede even half a move, Hong Qi Gong had the intention of conceding to him and immediately fell into danger, it was a desperate situation, many times he almost lost his life under the staff, he saw the staff in front of him heading straight for him, attacking his lower abdomen, he knew that this stance must have a lethal move to follow it, he couldn’t avoid it and let him have this stance so he raised his stick to block it. He suddenly felt a powerful internal energy surging through the staff, he couldn’t stop himself from being shocked, “You want to compete internal energy with me?” He thought, the enemy’s internal energy is arriving, apart from using my internal energy to block it, there is no other way, he quickly circulated his internal energy to defend.
    With their level of internal energy, if they lose concentration for a split second and get struck by the opponent’s weapon or palm, their internal energy would be all around their body and defend against the attack, although they would be injured, it won’t be anything serious. Now they are competing internal energy, they couldn’t concede to the other an iota, they have reached a stage where it won’t finish unless they die. The two of them have fought each other many times in the past before, and each time both were worried about the how strong the other person was and their own safety, they wouldn’t use such a dangerous way to attack each other as they were afraid that in their quest to seek glory, they would be disgraced instead and lose their lives in vain. But Ou Yang Feng wasn’t thinking properly, he hasn’t managed to gain victory in the last few days and so suddenly circulated his internal energy to attack.
    Ten’s of years ago, Hong Qi Gong hated Ou Yang Feng to the bone, but now he was old and has mellowed, now that he was mad and Yang Guo had pleaded for his life, Hong Qi Gong had no intention of killing him so he circulated his chi throughout his ‘dan tian’, he just defended and didn’t attack, waiting for Ou Yang Feng to exert all his energy. He didn’t know that his opponent’s internal energy was like the waves of a large river, the source of it incessantly sending out waves of internal energy, after a wave came another, there was no sign of it weakening but instead it was getting fiercer and fiercer. Hong Qi Gong always believed that his internal energy was profound, in these years he has refined his fierce internal energy to new levels, even if he couldn’t beat Western Poison, if he used all his energy to defend, he would not lose but who could have guessed that after these exchanges of internal energy, he was getting stronger and stronger.
    Hong Qi Gong remembered the time when he was competing internal energy with Ou Yang Feng with the Five Clowns of the Tibetan Border sandwiched in between them, Ou Yang Feng had sent out his internal energy with his foot three times, each one was stronger than the last, he noticed that at that time, before the first wave of internal energy had dissipated the second wave had arrived, after the second wave had been arrived, the third followed. If he just defended and let him keep on pressing, it would definitely be hard to defend against, only by returning the favour between the gaps and forcing him to defend will he stop Ou Yang Feng from amassing a great force, once he thought about this he immediately circulated his internal energy and attacked. The two’s body shook as they collided energies.
    When Yang Guo saw the two competing internal energy he was extremely worried, if he attacked Hong Qi Gong’s back, he would help his godfather gain victory. He looked at Hong Qi Gong and saw a head full of white hair, within his commanding air was a compassionate and merciful air, in the cracks between his heroic nature there was peace to go with it, he couldn’t stop himself from bowing down to him, not to mention that he responded to his plea and was willing to leave, how could he harm him?
    The two of them froze for a while, white smoke came out from Ou Yang Feng’s head, gradually it became denser and denser, like steam coming out of a steamer. Hong Qi Gong also used all his strength to defend, right now he had no way to control whether he wanted to harm his opponent’s life or not, if he could protect himself that would be fortunate enough.
    The competed from dawn until morning, from morning until midday, Hong Qi Gong gradually felt his internal energy draining away where as the opponent’s internal energy kept on surging towards him like a violent wave, he quietly called out under his breath, “So the madder the old poisonous animal gets, the more powerful he becomes, old beggar’s life is going to end today.” He knew that his battle will have an ending, he now had no way to avoid this and could only use all his strength to resist, but he didn’t know that Ou Yang Feng’s internal energy was also declining to exhaustion, it was hard for him to maintain his palm.
    They continued for another four hours until it got dark. Yang Guo saw that their faces had changed, he thought that if they battle for any longer, they would definitely perish together, if he wanted to break them up himself, the difference in internal energy between him and the two was vast, most probably he won’t be able to separate them and instead he will lose his life in the attempt. He delayed for a while and saw Ou Yang Feng’s face looked worried, Hong Qi Gong was out of breath, he thought, “Even if it’s dangerous I need to save their lives.”
    So he went and broke off a tree branch and sat down on his knees between the two, he circulated his chi around his body to protect himself and stretched out his branch placing it in between the two’s staff and stick.
    Who could have known that this separation did not waste any energy, the two’s internal energy rushed into the branch, after meeting his circulated chi, the energy was dispersed.
    A strong bow cannot pierce a silk cloth, although Northern Beggar and Western Poison are two of the renowned men in the world, they have spent many days consuming and exhausting their energy, after being disturbed by his attack, the two of them fell onto the floor, their faces grey as ash and it was hard for them to move.
    Yang Guo was alarmed and called out, “Father, Senior Hong, are you okay?” The two of them struggled to breath and didn’t reply. Yang Guo wanted to move them into the cave to rest but Hong Qi Gong lightly shook his head. Yang Guo knew that the two were severely injured and cannot be moved, that night he slept between the two, afraid that they would get up in the middle of the night and fight again. The two of them couldn’t even circulate the chi to recuperate, how can they fight each other? The next morning, Yang Guo saw that they looked like they were on the point of death, they looked worse that yesterday, his mind was alarmed and flustered, he dug up some more mountain herbs and roasted them, and feeding it to them. On the third day, the two of them showed signs of being a little better. Yang Guo moved them into the cave, placing them on other side with him in the middle.
    They rested lie this for several days. Once Hong Qi Gong regained his appetite he started to recover. Ou Yang Feng didn’t say anything, his expression poised, Yang Guo tired to get him to talk but he didn’t say anything.
    That day, the two of them were lying on the ground facing each other when Hong Qi Gong suddenly called out, “Smelly Toad, do you revere me now?”
    Ou Yang Feng said, “Revere what? I still have many stances that I haven’t used, once I use them all, you’ll be beaten into dust.”
    Hong Qi Gong laughed and said, “What a coincidence, I too have many kung fu that I haven’t used yet. Have you heard of the Beggar Clan’s [Dog Beating Stick Technique]?”
    Ou Yang feng trembled, and thought, “The [Dog Beating Stick Technique] sounds familiar, it seems to be extremely potent, could it be that the old beggar knows it? But how come he hasn’t used it when we’ve been fighting with our lives? He’s probably used it already. Or, he doesn’t know it.” So he said, “What’s so special about the [Dog Beating Stick Technique]?”
    Hong Qi Gong was regretful, the days before when he was fighting with him, all he had to do was just use a few stances of the [Dog Beating Stick Technique] and he would definitely be able to subdue him, but he felt that Ou Yang Feng was mentally unstable, he already has a advantage over him, using the Beggar Clan’s treasured [Dog Beating Stick Technique] against him wouldn’t be fair, it was not the actions of a hero but who knew that although his mind was unstable, his kung fu did not decline one bit. In the end, both of them ended up seriously injured, he wanted to use this set of skills but he had no energy to do so, when he heard Ou Yang Feng say this, he couldn’t take it and had a thought, he signalled to Yang Guo telling him to lower his ear and said, “I am the Beggar Clan’s previous chief, do you know that?”
    Yang Guo nodded, in Chong Yang Palace he heard the Taoists talk about the famous people of the world, they said that the Beggar Clan’s previous chief the nine fingered wondrous beggar Hong Qi Gong had supreme martial arts and was courageous, a real hero.
    Hong Qi Gong said, “I have a set of techniques that I’m going to teach you. This set of techniques are passed onto the Beggar Clan’s chief only and never to outsiders, it’s just that your godfather is belittling me with his words, I want you to perform it for him to see.”
    Yang Guo said, “Since this skill of senior’s are never passed onto outsiders, junior here will not learn it. My godfather’s mind hasn’t recovered yet, there is no need for senior to mess around with him.”
    Hong Qi Gong shook his head and said, “If you learn the stances but don’t know the formulae to accompany it, when you face an enemy it would be useless. I don’t want you to attack your godfather, just demonstrate it to him and once he sees it, he will understand. And so, you can’t really say that I’m teaching you kung fu.”
    Yang Guo thought, “Since that this set of kung fu is a treasure of the Beggar Clan’s, my godfather may not be able to beat it, why should I help you to beat my godfather?” He rejected the offer, saying that he can’t learn the secret skill of the Beggar Clan’s.
    Hong Qi Gong saw through him and loudly said, “Smelly Toad, your godson knows that you can’t beat my [Dog Beating Stick Technique], he won’t dare to demonstrate it to you.”
    Ou Yang Feng was angry and called out, “Son, I have many great skills that I haven’t used yet, why should I be afraid of him? Quickly demonstrate it to me.”
    The two of them were forcing him, he had no other response but to go over to Hong Qi Gong’ side. Hong Qi Gong told him to take a branch and taught him a stance of the [Dog Beating Stick Technique], [The Stick Beats Two Dogs], carefully describing it to him. Yang Guo understood immediately and demonstrated it.
    Ou Yang Feng saw that the stick technique was indeed wondrous and powerful, it was difficult for him to overcome it straight away, he thought for a while and taught a stance of a staff technique to Yang Guo.
    Hong Qi Gong gave a slight smiled and said, “Fine, here’s another stance.”
    The two of them competed martial arts through their mouths and tongues. They continued until night, only ten or so moves were exchanged yet Yang Guo was exhausted and sweating all over. The next morning they continued, and they carried on for three days, by then, the thirty six stances of the [Dog Beating Stick Technique] were described. Though there were only thirty six stances, the changes in between them had boundless ingenuity, at the end, Ou Yang Feng took longer and longer to come up with a solution, but the stances that he came out with attacked and defended at the same time, the strength and power of it was excellent, when Hong Qi Gong saw this he gave out a sigh of respect.
    By night of that day, Hong Qi Gong described the thirty-sixth stance [No Dog’s Under Heaven] sixth change, this was the [Dog Beating Stick Technique’s] final stance and final change, once this stance was used, everywhere would be a stick, once the internal energy arrived, if there were eighty evil dogs, all of them would be killed at the same time, it was called [No Dog’s Under Heaven] because of this, the ingenuity and mastery of the rod technique had reached the echelons of martial arts. Ou Yang Feng couldn’t think of a reply. He spent that night tossing and turning as he pondered that stance.
    Before Yang Guo woke up the next morning, Ou Yang Feng suddenly called out, “I’ve got it, I’ve got it. Son, use this staff stance to break his.” His voice was excited and urgent at the same time. Yang Guo could hear that something was wrong with him, he took a look and couldn’t stop himself from being shocked. Though Ou Yang Feng was old, his internal energy was profound, the hair on his face and head was grey white in colour. He exerted himself thinking too much that night, in just a night his hair became completely white, as if he suddenly aged ten years in one go. Yang Guo was sad, he wanted to ask Hong Qi Gong to stop the competition but Ou Yang Feng repeated forced him to do as he say, in the end he could only comply. This stance was extremely complicated, Ou Yang Feng repeated it and explained, Yang Guo then understood and did as he was instructed.
    When Hong Qi Gong saw this his face changed, he was lying on the floor, unable to move, right now he somehow gained divine strength and leapt up calling out, “Old poisonous animal, Ou Yang Feng! Today, old beggar am in awe of you.” He leapt forward and hugged him tightly.
    Yang Guo was startled, he assumed that he was trying to harm his godfather. He tried to pull him away but Hong Qi Gong was holding on tightly, he was unable to pull him away. He heard Hong Qi Gong laugh and called out, “Old poisonous animal, Ou Yang Feng, you actually thought of a stance to break mine, you really are something! Good Ou Yang Feng, good Ou Yang Feng.”
    After many days of fighting and a whole night of thinking, Ou Yang Feng had exhausted all his strength, when he heard Hong Qi Gong call him ‘Ou Yang Feng’ three times, suddenly something lit up in him. His mind was like a clear mirror, all the events of the pass came before his very eyes, he also laughed and called out, “I’m Ou Yang Feng! I’m Ou Yang Feng! I’m Ou Yang Feng! You’re the old beggar Hong Qi Gong!”
    The two white haired men hugged each other and laughed. After a bout of laughter, the voices became quieter, suddenly the voices stopped, the two of them motionless.
    Yang Guo was shocked and kept on calling out, “Father, senior!” No one replied. Yang Guo pulled Hong Qi Gong’s arm, as soon as he pulled it the arm hung down, he was dead. Yang Guo was startled and bent over to take a look at Ou Yang Feng, he too had lost signs of being alive. Though the two’s laughter has gone, their faces still carried a smile, the valleys quietly echoed back the sounds of two people laughing. Northern Beggar and Western Poison have been adversaries for many years, they hated each other, how could it be that they ended up dead together on mount Wah. The two of them were enemies when they were alive, just before they died they were hugging each other, laughing. All the feuds and arguments that they have had over the years were finished over a laugh!
    Yang Guo was shocked and sad at the same time, he had no idea what to do, he remembered that Hong Qi Gong pretended to be dead for three days and three nights, could it be that the two of them were pretending to be dead? But judging from how they looked, it didn’t appeared that they were pretending, he thought, “Maybe after dying for a while they’ll come back to life. The two’s martial arts are extremely good; they won’t die just like that. Maybe they are competing again, seeing who can fake death for the longest.”
    He guarded the two for seven days and nights, every time a day passed, a bit of his hope drained away. He saw that the two’s faces had changed colour and knew that they have really passed away. He sobbed for a while, and then by the side of the cave he dug two holes, and buried the two extraordinary figures of the wulin world. The weapons they used and Hong Qi Gong’s wine gourd was buried with them. He saw that the footprints that the two left when they were fighting had turned to ice, the prints were still here yet their bodies have now sunk into the ground. Yang Guo stepped into the footprints and reminisced, he couldn’t stop himself from being depressed again. He then thought about how with their frightening abilities, in the end they were buried by someone who the world despised, what fame, what reputation, it’s just a dream that’s finished.
    He kowtowed eight times in front of their tombs, thinking, “Though godfather was brilliant, in the end he was a level below Hong Qi Gong. When the [Dog Beating Stick Techniques] were demonstrated, godfather had to think for quite a while before he overcame them, if he really faced this in battle, who would allow him to carefully study it and then think of a way to counter it?”
    After sighing for a while, he found a path down the mountain and left. This time when he was leaving the mountain, he was trusting in his footsteps again, he didn’t distinguish between east, south, west and north. He thought the world is a large place, he was alone, he would wander around and when his time comes, he’ll lie somewhere on the floor and die. He wasn’t on mount Wah for a month, yet to him it was like many years have passed. When he was ascending the mountain, he was thinking about how everyone looked down him, he was full of hate and anger. As he descended, he felt life was like a passing cloud, if others respect him or look down on him it’s all good, what’s it got to do with him. At such a young age, he was resentful of the world’s customs, he won’t rise in respect of the world.

    Within a day’s time he arrived at a wild place in Xia Nan, he took a look around and saw withered trees and wilted grass everywhere, the grass fluttering in the wind. The sound of quiet hoofs could be heard in the west side, dust and smoke rose, after a short while, tens of wild horses galloped past about a mile or so in front of him. He saw the herd of horses galloping wildly, freely, Yang Guo also felt carefree and joyous, wild lands in front of his eyes, horses galloping afar, the world was vast and had no obstructions, just as he was feeling satisfied he suddenly heard a horse hissing out in mercy from behind.

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    Yep Someguy pretty much summed it up. Individually, the five clowns are better than the weakest third generation Taoist but probably not as good as Cui Zhi Feng who tested Yang Guo's kung fu when he was little at the Quan Zhen competitions. They could give the third generation taoists a good fight.

    Yang Guo has learnt the advanced skills of the ancient tomb but his kung fu was pretty much all style and no substance (well not much <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">). Yang Guo was very very good for his age but he didn't concentrate on one thing, his techniques were all great kung fu but he didn't practise enough. If he actually spent time refining his technique and improving his internal energy and foundation, he would be confident of beating the clowns no problem.
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    Great battle.

    Some general comment: H7G only stop his breathing only when YG was checking on him. But why can't YG observe H7G for a long long time, everyone is bound to breath eventually, and with every breath, the chest and abdomen will be distended. Also it would be a simple matter to palpate for the radial pulses, or even the carotids. Chinese doctors were famous for diagnosing diseases via pulses.
    Some of the things in JY stories are beyond belief. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

    Q: While H7G was better than OYF in terms of technique esp Dog Beating Stance, would it be fair to say that OYF has a slight edge in inner power?

    Q2: I realise the importance of internal formulation that acompanied the dog beating stance, but surely YG after receiving such extensive tutoring on the external aspects of the dog beating stance, should be able to piece everything together and figure out the purpose of the stances.
    In addition, as long as he has adequate inner power, why worry about what drives the external techniques? kind of like Zhiu Mo Chi of DSGD displaying Shaolin's skill.

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    Also forgot to mention about the TVB ROCH 84 add-on about OYF asking YG to go and look for XLN.
    Well, that scene was quite dramatic, but unfortunately not real.... <IMG SRC="smilies/angrystick.gif" border="0">
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    To Han Solo: According to Huan Rong Yang Guo was able to understand 30& of the Dog Beating Stick when Hong Qigong imparted him the techniques. He learnt the additional 20% when Guo Fu, Wu brothers and himself where eavesdropping on Huang Rong and Lu Joujiao. Afterwards Huang Rong taught him the remaing formula which was another 20%. The remaining 20% will have depend on himself and his own intelligence and dilligence.
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    Thanks Athena.

    But still missing 10%. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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