Spooks, the way you've calculated things are not really a fair indication of the players abilities.Originally posted by spooks
What are you talking about its not fair comparing Bron to Mcgrady and Kobe. The per 48 minute stat is applicable once a player breaks 15+ mins per game. And those per 48 min numbers clearly show Bron was better than either player in their rookie year.
1. Okay, I'll have to admit that the best assumption is that rebounds and assists depends on the "minutes" one players. Therefore you can use the minutes played per game and stretch it out to the maximum of 48 mins for a "fair" comparison.
2. But the PPG does not depend on how many minutes you play. We all know that. PPG depends on how many offensive opportunities you get. A guy like Ben Wallace/Dennis Rodman could play for a whole 48 minutes without a shot attempt.
Therefore the figures you provided are not a true reflection of the capabilities of each player. IF Lebron is the "test subject" then you have to do the following for a "fair" comparison:
Lebron: Played 39.5 minutes pergame, averaged 21.27 "offensive opportunities" in that time with an OER of 45.18. Extract that to 48 minutes he averaged a total of 25.85 offensive opportunities.
Lebron in 48 mins = 25/7/7 (correctly as you stated)
Kobe Bryant: In his rookie year played 15.5 minutes pergame, averaged only a mere 8.07 offensive opportunities with an OER of 47.03. Extract that to 48 mins with the "same" offensive opportunities as LeBron:
Kobe Bryant = 32/6/4
T-MAc: In his rookie year played 18.4 mins, averaged only a mere 7.40 offensive opportunities with an OER of 47.57. Extract that to 48 mins with the "same" offensive opportunities as LeBron:
T-Mac = 32/11/4
Comments: Interesting isn't it??? If in thier rookie season, both T-Mac and Kobe Bryant were the "main man" as LeBron was with the Cavs, you could be 95% confident that they would both average 32ppg. Infact T-Mac was the better player if you want to the ball in his hands and give him 25.85 offensive opportunities.
If you want to compare "apples" with "apples" this is the way you need to you extract your data. After all, Kobe and T-Mac in thier first year were not the main players, and had to get their points within the team offense. Watching LeBron's games, the ball normally touches his hands on every play. But if Kobe and T-Mac were given the same opportunities, they would have kicked LeBron's butt. Infact I can tell you that Kobe's rookie OER of 47.03 was his lowest.