Long Piao 《龙票》

[strawberry]

I know the actress you are talking about..she plays Zhihua, Leo Ku's second wife. I really dislike zhihua, therefore though i know its not her fault but I don't like this actress much either but she's better in this series. I really think Sumei is attractive, she is pretty. while Lin ge ge is sweet looking.

the more I watch this serial, the more sorry i feel for Sumei. Its such a pity that they could not talk things out as a couple. I feel that Sumei while doing what she thinks is expected of a good daughter-in-law, she has definitely grown to love Zijun but he does not love her but married her just to fulfil his duty as a son. Those are all the wrong reasons to get married for.

[Li Nhi]

I know the actress you are talking about..she plays Zhihua, Leo Ku's second wife. I really dislike zhihua, therefore though i know its not her fault but I don't like this actress much either but she's better in this series. I really think Sumei is attractive, she is pretty. while Lin ge ge is sweet looking.

the more I watch this serial, the more sorry i feel for Sumei. Its such a pity that they could not talk things out as a couple. I feel that Sumei while doing what she thinks is expected of a good daughter-in-law, she has definitely grown to love Zijun but he does not love her but married her just to fulfil his duty as a son. Those are all the wrong reasons to get married for.

right. i wondered why she looked so familiar. yea, i hated her in HZGG too. But then again, I didn't like P3 that much to begin with. Was this series after HZGG, if anybody knows.

[chaule]

right. i wondered why she looked so familiar. yea, i hated her in HZGG too. But then again, I didn't like P3 that much to begin with. Was this series after HZGG, if anybody knows.

You're correct. This series is after HZ III. I didn't like part III either.

[strawberry]

Vicky was best as Huan Zhu ge ge in the earlier installments. Chaule, are you able to shed some light if Zi Jun was written also as flirty in the novel? was the serial based loosely or strictly on the novel ?

Jiang Xin is quite cute here.

[chaule]

I just started watching this series and am at episode 8 now. I really agree that Zijun's mom should not have forced the marriage bet sumei and him. Its just not right like you are not faithful to your husband by marrying his brother and havinga sexual relationship with him.

Did Sumei agree partly also because she has grown to have some feelings for her brother-in law (beside the filial piety thing)? and why did Zi Jun agree? I think it seems he does not want to upset his mother.

and Zijun and Runyu's feelings for each other seemed to develop too quickly to
me?

I think the actresses who portrayed the lin Ge Ge and Sumei are pretty. Is Zijun a casonova ? he seems to have a weakness for the opposite sex so far.

and to add that, I initially had so much respect for Zijun's mother, I felt she was so dignified and humble to hold the family togther, but I kind of lost respect for her after she insisted that Zi jun marry his sister-in law.

I also think Sumei did have some kind of feelings for Zijun already. Or maybe just sister and brother-in-law love? Can't really tell. I don't know if it's because of the way they film or because the way she act, but I felt kind of weird when Sumei was taking care of wounded Zijun. I was thinking, "no wonder the mother think of marrying her to Zijun." But ofcourse I never like the idea. Oh well, even the smartest people make mistakes. I still respect her very much. She's such and strong and talented woman. I think Ji family was so lucky to have her, otherwise, I don't know if Ji family able to survive after such a disaster.

I don't think the relationship b/t Zijun and Runyu was rushed at all. I think it's quite natural that he was draw to her. She was so beautiful, independence, and has such a high dignity. Furthermore, both of their lifes went through the same family troubles so they were able to connect and understand each other better.

All the actresses in here are pretty, even Bao Zhu and the mother. The mother is quite beautiful for a woman in her age. That's also what I like about this series, everyone is great and good looking in here.

Eventhough Zijun has his flirtatious moments, but I don't think he's to the level that of a casanova. He's faithful with Runyu. As of Xi Mu Yun, eventhough he's draw to her because of her beauty at first, yet he has more of a respect and pure friendship with her later on. I have to say that of all the female characters in here, I like and respect Xi Mu Yun the most. She's such a great idealist and so honorable and talented. As of Yu Lin, well, he has no choice but to treat her nice doesn't he. Later on, he was also quite touched by her love for him and felt guilty and sorry for her. It's so sad.

I agree that HXM's acting is still raw at times and i was also more impressed with Xiu qing's portrayal. There were instances when I found him overacting.Actually, I hald expected him to do as well or surpass his past works but I am kind of disappointed so far. btw, I am at episode 12. Maybe I ought to lower my expectations. after all, he's also human and it might be too much to expect him to keep improving in each subsequent serial. i am sure he put in his best then though and that's commendable itself.

btw, HXM is so fair here...was he as fair in Da han Tian zi? I don't remember that to be so, right?

Yes, it's true that there were times when he overacted. That seems to be quite a problem he has to overcome. The times when the Westerners were involve, I usually found Jiao Zhu overacted and it became awkward, especially the scene at the banquet. I also hate to see the way the series try to degrade the Westerners. I found those moments to be rediculous. Those are the moments that I have to give thumbsdown to this series.

Jiao Zhu still haven't tan himself yet when he was filming this series. Yet, I still think he was more tan than Da Han I and series before that. Before Da Han II, he was more white. He became more tan from Da Han II, I think.

Chaule, are you able to shed some light if Zi Jun was written also as flirty in the novel? was the serial based loosely or strictly on the novel ?

Jiang Xin is quite cute here.

I haven't able to read much into the novel. Only up to chapter 5 so far. I also have to discontinue now because I just bought a book about Andy Lau (quite thick) and I'm kind of more eager to read it because at least I already seen the series and already know the story.

This series is very faithful to the novel, because the author first wrote this story for series filming. Only after the series is released that the novel was published. Most of the things are the same. Sometimes, they only change a little bit here and there but not much of a big deal. For example, there were converses that was spoken by Xu Wen Rui in the novel, yet in the series they were spoken by Ji Buo Qun.

[strawberry]

I also think Sumei did have some kind of feelings for Zijun already. Or maybe just sister and brother-in-law love? Can't really tell. I don't know if it's because of the way they film or because the way she act, but I felt kind of weird when Sumei was taking care of wounded Zijun. I was thinking, "no wonder the mother think of marrying her to Zijun."

I share the same sentiments as you but I was thinking ' oh, I think the mother might want to see them married'. What's with all these marrying of your daughter-in-law to another son thing, when the other son is dead? its so feudalistic!

I think she grew to develop feelings for him after her husband's passing. but she is beautiful, don't you think? I also like Jiang Xin best, she is more sa tuo than the rest in many ways but of course, she holds very strong political views and and is very Zhi Zhuo about that.

Lin Ge Ge is ok..more pampered and have not gone thru much sufferings in life.

I prefer Jiang Xin's character more than Runyu.

[chaule]

Me the same, Xi Mu Yun is my favorite female character in here too. I also think she's more beautiful than Qin Lan. I think Jiang Xin is the most beautiful in here even.

Oh one thing, I sneak peek the end of the novel as well and found out that they changed the ending a little. Qi Zi Jun's fate is still the same, but the series changed the ending scene.

[Nefertari]

Like many others, I like Sumei the most in here. She's really gentle, thoughtful, self-sacrificing, kind and she never ever complains, a most unworldly trait. The actress Sun Ning (right?) looks a lot better in period costume. She makes people feel for her easily.

I agree that some of Jiao Zhu's gestures are exaggerated. The way he hit San Bao's head, the way his eyes move. He walks a bit too fast at times though he's supposed to be portraying a over 30 mature man. The gestures portrayed his character well, perhaps it's the type of film used that tend to accentuate all his actions. You know, sometimes when I watch movie featurettes, actors seemed to use methodical acting, deliberate exaggerated actions so that they get caught on the film, not sure whether this is right.

I also agree with Chaule that Jiao Zhu's not flirtatious. He's being charming and charismatic. His intellect and bravity attracts lots of women to him.

[chaule]

Thanks for the mv's chau!!! I hate the company too. So how did you watch it? You just watched the Chinese version w/subtitles instead?

Yes, I watched it in Chinese. I bought the DVD set the moment it was released. Couldn't wait. That was the first time I ever bought a tv series before I watch it. Luckily it did not disappoint me at all.

What about you? Have you ever buy a movie/tv series before you seen it?

[chaule]

Like many others, I like Sumei the most in here. She's really gentle, thoughtful, self-sacrificing, kind and she never ever complains, a most unworldly trait. The actress Sun Ning (right?) looks a lot better in period costume. She makes people feel for her easily.

I agree that some of Jiao Zhu's gestures are exaggerated. The way he hit San Bao's head, the way his eyes move. He walks a bit too fast at times though he's supposed to be portraying a over 30 mature man. The gestures portrayed his character well, perhaps it's the type of film used that tend to accentuate all his actions. You know, sometimes when I watch movie featurettes, actors seemed to use methodical acting, deliberate exaggerated actions so that they get caught on the film, not sure whether this is right.

I also agree with Chaule that Jiao Zhu's not flirtatious. He's being charming and charismatic. His intellect and bravity attracts lots of women to him.

The thing is, the fans who read the novel before watching it complained that Qin Lan's acting was bad. They complained that she wasn't able to display the qualities RunYu suppose to has at all. According to them, in the novel, RunYu was suppose to be the most likeable character, very special so that it's reasonable for Qi ZiJun to choose her over everyone else. This is also one of the reason why I want to read the novel. I want to see if it's true.

What do you mean by Jiao Zhu walks fast for a 30 years old man? I don't think 30 years old man suppose to move slow. He's more mature than when he was in his 20s, yet he still young. Even 40 years old man still can move very fast.

Exactly, men like him tend to draw a lot of women even if they did not intend to.

[strawberry]

The thing is, the fans who read the novel before watching it complained that Qin Lan's acting was bad. They complained that she wasn't able to display the qualities RunYu suppose to has at all. According to them, in the novel, RunYu was suppose to be the most likeable character, very special so that it's reasonable for Qi ZiJun to choose her over everyone else. This is also one of the reason why I want to read the novel. I want to see if it's true.

What do you mean by Jiao Zhu walks fast for a 30 years old man? I don't think 30 years old man suppose to move slow. He's more mature than when he was in his 20s, yet he still young. Even 40 years old man still can move very fast.

Exactly, men like him tend to draw a lot of women even if they did not intend to.

Yah me too, I certainly did not feel that runyu was the most likeable. it could also be because I don't like this actress very much too.

some of the historical backgd of this serial is too profound for me, i did not quite understand them.

[chaule]

some of the historical backgd of this serial is too profound for me, i did not quite understand them.

For example?

For me, it wasn't the historical background that I had trouble understanding, it's the bussiness/economics theories. That's another reason prompted my to buy the novel. I want to understand more. I hope the novel can give some more explainations.

[Lady Zhuge]

Yah me too, I certainly did not feel that runyu was the most likeable. it could also be because I don't like this actress very much too.

Runyu really pissed me off when she took her anger out on the poor little puppy. I don't like Qin Lan much either. Both her looks and acting are quite average.

[strawberry]

For example?

For me, it wasn't the historical background that I had trouble understanding, it's the bussiness/economics theories. That's another reason prompted my to buy the novel. I want to understand more. I hope the novel can give some more explainations.

I think I did not understand the whole historical backgd very well at all so much so I can't even list specific events or terms out.

[Nefertari]

What do you mean by Jiao Zhu walks fast for a 30 years old man? I don't think 30 years old man suppose to move slow. He's more mature than when he was in his 20s, yet he still young. Even 40 years old man still can move very fast.

Exactly, men like him tend to draw a lot of women even if they did not intend to.

Haha, I just know you're going to protest that. I meant some of the times his steps are really really light and fast, like he's a 16 yr-old boy. Though it's nice to see that child-like side of Jiao Zhu, it seemed a bit strange for someone living in the Ching Dynasty to behave that way. I supposed I just have to take it that there're chances adults walk that way back then.

[Nefertari]

I think I did not understand the whole historical backgd very well at all so much so I can't even list specific events or terms out.

Hmm, I don't think there's much historical background to the show, just that it happened slightly before the era of Ci Xi, officials are corrupted and the government is poor. Oh, there's one significant event in the show, the Tai Ping Tian Guo rebels and they failed.

[chaule]

Strawberry, how far are you into the series now? Almost done yet?

[chaule]

Haha, I just know you're going to protest that. I meant some of the times his steps are really really light and fast, like he's a 16 yr-old boy. Though it's nice to see that child-like side of Jiao Zhu, it seemed a bit strange for someone living in the Ching Dynasty to behave that way. I supposed I just have to take it that there're chances adults walk that way back then.

Hahaha, I never felt that way. Which part did you see that?

[strawberry]

Strawberry, how far are you into the series now? Almost done yet?

yes..almost done. though i skipped quite a bit in the middle.

[Nefertari]

Hahaha, I never felt that way. Which part did you see that?

It was somewhere towards the middle. He was happy about something after talking to Sumei's dad or someone in the living room and he saw Shizhen at the pavillion playing. He jumped up to touch the ceiling of the pavillion and touched Shizhen's head. I like that scene, but felt queer that ancient people walked as lightly as him. Jiaozhu's qinggong must be quite something.