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    Default How much did Gung Sheun Tze really know about Kau Cheen Yan?

    In RETURN OF THE CONDOR HEROES '83 (I'm suspecting TVB's hand again, so I'm referring to the series), when Gung Sheun Tze first confronts the wife (Kau Cheen Chek) whom he thought he had eliminated long ago, he deliberately mentions the fates of her older brothers Kau Cheen Yan and Kau Cheen Cheung to expose her true identity. Gung Sheun Tze reveals to his ex-wife that years ago (during LOCH), Gwok Jing and Wong Yung caused the death of Kau Cheen Cheung and were also instrumental in causing Kau Cheen Yan to become a Buddhist monk under South Emperor 1 Deng.

    The question is: did Gung Sheun Tze actually know all this (in the novel) and if so, how? Passionless Valley was extremely isolated from the outside world. Not only was the valley geographically far-removed, but its inhabitants practiced isolation. Passionless Valley inhabitants did not travel outside of the valley, nor did they receive many guests from the outside. Gung Sheun Tze was unlikely to have known much about the going ons in the wulin outside of Passionless Valley...even events as momentous as Kau Cheen Yan's becoming a monk. Indeed, it's strange that Gung Sheun Tze would even know of the Greats, let alone Gwok Jing and Wong Yung, in his isolated position.

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    First of all did anybody actually know that Gwok Jing and Wong Yung "caused" the death of Kau Cheen Cheung? Wasn't it more like an accident that Kau Cheen Cheung died, Gwok Jing actually tried to help him.

    Yeah it's kinda strange cos they were kinda isolated from the rest of the world. But who knows maybe Gung Sheun Tze went out a lot to rape girls

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    its cus qiu qianren wrote to his sis(whos gongsun zis wife) after he became a monk and told her

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    What qiaofeng said. Qian Qianren sent a letter to Gongsun Zhi explaining what had happened.

    Noodle's translation is past that point, I think. You should be able to read it

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    What i want to know are:
    1) What did the crocodiles eat in the croc pit?
    2) How did his wife who had her tendons cut manage to swim herself to land?
    3) If KTZ's accupoint hiding kung-fu is rendered useless by the consumption of blood, does that mean he has never had a cut or graze inside his own mouth?
    TristeCoeur on Lady Yang: Someone needs 2 tell her that when u want 2 save people from being killed, u need to hurry the hell up, not play bull#### music & dance around. Her mission failed big time

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    Since he has his own blood throwing throughout his body and definitely in his stomach, qi stream, etc. etc., one would assume that it's foreign blood

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