The Sandra Bullock Trade

[Candide]

alexander the great : gay
voltaire: in the book, candide marries and spends the whole book trying to get back to her. i think she dumps his a$$ in part 2. i don't remember.
oscar wilde: gay

i can't speak for the others. i think michael jordan was married and his wife was behind him during his success.... and even his gambling problems.

As you see, the gay guys did not need women to succeed.

Voltaire the author, not Candide the character.

Michael Jordan's wife divorced him & stole half his wealth. It's a very famous case to warn men never to get married. It had the record of being the most costly divorce ever until that one-legged wh0re divorced Paul McCartney.

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Guys, stop getting your panties in a twist over TC.

[KeongJai]

but those are all the wrong women ahaha. heather mills, yoko ono, david beckham's spicegirl wife.
I wouldn't pin the blame on Michael Jordan's wife, because he's an ***.

linda mccartney on the other hand was an example of a good wife.
pretty sure richard branson, jamie oliver have wives.

but I do get your point about women trading career for men. That's because 90% of the things they talk about, think about, do are in some way related to men.

[Candide]

Linda McCartney was good, but Paul became great without her.

Same with the other guys. Sure they might say something to placate their wives in public but objectively do you really think their wives contributed much to their greatness?

I don't know whether M Jordan was an arsehole or not, but that's not an excuse for his wife, who contributes zip to his wealth, to steal half his sh!t.

but I do get your point about women trading career for men. That's because 90% of the things they talk about, think about, do are in some way related to men.

That's very true. What I was saying was this:

- Man can't trade career for women, because right after he made the trade, he'd lose his woman. Remember, women marry up.

- A woman OTOH can succeed in such a trade, because men don't care about her career, which would only get in the way of a serious relationship & raising a family together.

[Trien Chieu]

Asked in all honesty...Trien Chieu, are you a Republican? Just curious.

I am a Canadian Citizen so no I can't be a republican. If I am an american citizen then I might. However, I am definitely not a marxist as I hate their ideology and would never support marxist leaders like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jon Il. ByTmE, how about you?? What do you think about marxism? Do you support marxist leaders?

[remember_Cedric]

From a medical point of view, there really isn't anything of a greater accolade than curing cancer/AIDs. To have TC blow it off, because it doesn't benefit him (I mean who doesn't know someone who struggled with cancer?), is an insult to human endeavour.

Seriously, ban the troll already. Sure there's a slight chance he might actually be sincere in his retarded comments, but when is that benefit of doubt become overdue?

As unintelligent as his posts can be, TC doesn't deserve a ban.... as yet. He does have the rights to express his POV even if his posts may elicit retardedness or is about his commitment to self-loyalty.

[KeongJai]

Sure they might say something to placate their wives in public but objectively do you really think their wives contributed much to their greatness?

That's not my point. If you need a woman to help you with the actual work towards your goals then you're not really that great to begin with.
My point was that it's easier when you have a supportive woman behind you, than without one.

[KeongJai]

- Man can't trade career for women, because right after he made the trade, he'd lose his woman. Remember, women marry up.

ahaha you are more cynical than I am.

[ByTmE]

I am a Canadian Citizen so no I can't be a republican. If I am an american citizen then I might. However, I am definitely not a marxist as I hate their ideology and would never support marxist leaders like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jon Il. ByTmE, how about you?? What do you think about marxism? Do you support marxist leaders?

:: ..sOrrRry. I just woke up from a refreshing 7 hour nap. Unfortunately, I'm all bleary eyed now. What's this about marxist leaders? I thought I was making a comparison between Hun Sen and Pol Pot, and came to the conclusion that neither of them were good. Just because the former does not claim to be the head of a marxist nation doesn't mean his actions prove otherwise. And of course, in the case of Pol Pot, he was responsible for the genocide of about 1.7 million [1.8? contested figures] fellow Cambodian people of which 18 were related to me.

It's personal, not political.

That's not my point. If you need a woman to help you with the actual work towards your goals then you're not really that great to begin with. My point was that it's easier when you have a supportive woman behind you, than without one.

I concur. I wonder if some people are just more disinclined to believe in the wonderful goodness that the right woman can bring/do for the right man in her life.

- Man can't trade career for women, because right after he made the trade, he'd lose his woman. Remember, women marry up.

...doesn't this then make her not the right woman [Trinity] that KeongJai [Neo] was specifically referring to? Obviously, she's not The One.

Candide has never been one to care about political correctness.

I'd rather thought so, but I just wanted to point it out in awkward disbelief. It had inspired my second "WTF?" moment right after this comment...

This is not what I wish for. It doesn't benefit me. I have neither cancer nor AIDS.

Holy smokes Batman...

It's the fifth guaranteed thing in life, after death, tax and two other things I can't tell you (because I'd have to kill you).

...cop out answer!!! You should tell...well I'll just humor you then. I believe that there are many things that Candide knows and won't tell us [unbelievable] because than he'd have to kill us.

The power of romantic love [...or the pussy, as once so crudely stated] sure is a contested and well loved topic in this thread, if not board, overall.

[remember_Cedric]

Linda McCartney was good, but Paul became great without her.

Same with the other guys. Sure they might say something to placate their wives in public but objectively do you really think their wives contributed much to their greatness?

I don't know whether M Jordan was an arsehole or not, but that's not an excuse for his wife, who contributes zip to his wealth, to steal half his sh!t.

That's very true. What I was saying was this:

- Man can't trade career for women, because right after he made the trade, he'd lose his woman. Remember, women marry up.

- A woman OTOH can succeed in such a trade, because men don't care about her career, which would only get in the way of a serious relationship & raising a family together.

So, Candide, according to you, it seems that women are useless. Why not make a wish (when you meet a shooting star) that all women shall extinct since men, in your opinion, can take on this world single-handedly? It's better off if female species doesn't exist, no?

[Ren Wo Xing]

The power of romantic love [...or the pussy, as once so crudely stated] sure is a contested and well loved topic in this thread, if not board, overall.

"Love is a fragile, corruptible thing. And yet I have seen it evince a curious strength. It is beyond any comprehension. Love is a weakness that once in a great while triumphs over strength. "

[Banh Mi]

So, Candide, according to you, it seems that women are useless. Why not make a wish (when you meet a shooting star) that all women shall extinct since men, in your opinion, can take on this world single-handedly? It's better off if female species doesn't exist, no?

I think Candide is of the opinion women are more productive working on their back than on their feet.

[remember_Cedric]

^If that is what he thinks, then it's either women should better not exist or Candide is incapable of thinking straight.

[Banh Mi]

Feminist rationalization is annoying, I don't blame him. People keep coming up with shit like "Behind every great man is a woman" bullshit. There are women that are good at certain things, there are men that are good at certain things.

[remember_Cedric]

Jumping into conclusion is annoying. So is men who think with the under head instead of the upper one.

People keep coming up with shit like "Behind every great man is a woman" bullshit.

That, isn't the point.

There are women that are good at certain things, there are men that are good at certain things.

THAT, is the point. But, is he accepting that? Besides the "back" thing??

[KeongJai]

Feminist rationalization is annoying, I don't blame him. People keep coming up with shit like "Behind every great man is a woman" bullshit. There are women that are good at certain things, there are men that are good at certain things.

That wasn't my debate with him. his point was women hold men back from their aspirations and potential and mine was that they don't, if yours is then you should get rid of her.

[Candide]

This thread is now full of eels, I mean, feminist traps.

Guys, if you think you can make the trade, go ahead and quit your job, see how fast your woman dumps you.

Girls, if you think your guy can make the trade, go tell him he should quit his soul destroying JOB (yes men have jobs, women have careers because we need nicer words to make women feel good) and enjoy himself. See how fast you feel disgust with him.

Banh Mi, you have no imagination at all, mate. Women can sometimes be more enjoyable with both their feet and back off the ground. Clearly you have not dated a gymnast. And we have got to mention the knees and palms...

Now will you guys & girls argue my points, or are you all set to put your own interpretations on it and get the lines from The Book of Shaming Men ready to shoot at me?

[remember_Cedric]

This thread is now full of eels, I mean, feminist traps.

Guys, if you think you can make the trade, go ahead and quit your job, see how fast your woman dumps you.

Girls, if you think your guy can make the trade, go tell him he should quit his soul destroying JOB (yes men have jobs, women have careers because we need nicer words to make women feel good) and enjoy himself. See how fast you feel disgust with him.

Banh Mi, you have no imagination at all, mate. Women can sometimes be more enjoyable with both their feet and back off the ground. Clearly you have not dated a gymnast. And we have got to mention the knees and palms...

Now will you guys & girls argue my points, or are you all set to put your own interpretations on it and get the lines from The Book of Shaming Men ready to shoot at me?

How is it that people could argue your point when one point come more distorted than the other?

No, I don't read anyone shaming men but obviously it appears that your posts which ridicule women are manifesting this thread.

I'm trying to save you from facing the fate of becoming a MCP. So, it's up to you to save yourself.

[KeongJai]

I think you're thinking too deep into things and too extreme.
Nobody's saying quit your job and be a bum for a woman.
I guess that's why you have the view of the women leaving you for upgrades.

There will come a point where that extra $100k isn't worth it. Whether you have a family or not.
No woman worth keeping is going to leave you because you earn $150k instead of $250k. But many women worth keeping will leave you if you only come back home 3 or 4 times a year.

[Candide]

Feminist rationalization is annoying, I don't blame him. People keep coming up with shit like "Behind every great man is a woman" bullshit. There are women that are good at certain things, there are men that are good at certain things.

The original philosophical pondering was "Behind every great man is a woman that he could not get." Feminists cut out the last part in bold. It's how they roll.

If you remember the often quoted line "Women make 75 cent to a man's dollar" by feminists, the second half of that quoted research was "...for doing 70% of the work."

That wasn't my debate with him. his point was women hold men back from their aspirations and potential and mine was that they don't, if yours is then you should get rid of her.

I agree with you.

What I said was that women - I'm referring to wives and girlfriends here, because mothers have a great role in this - have nothing to do with a man's achievements. At best they don't disrupt him. Often they distract him and add extra responsibilities on his shoulders.

An old wise man once told me: "Women at best can be 30% of your happiness in life, but at worst they can be 99% of your misery."

So is men who think with the under head instead of the upper one.

Women should pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that men keep thinking with their dicks, because if men start thinking with their Northern brains, women would be in serious troubles.

[Candide]

I think you're thinking too deep into things and too extreme.
Nobody's saying quit your job and be a bum for a woman.
I guess that's why you have the view of the women leaving you for upgrades.

There will come a point where that extra $100k isn't worth it. Whether you have a family or not.
No woman worth keeping is going to leave you because you earn $150k instead of $250k. But many women worth keeping will leave you if you only come back home 3 or 4 times a year.

"Men cannot go backwards sexually. Women cannot go backwards in lifestyle." - Chris Rock.

I'm sure you're right for some women, but you're catching a bit of that Not All Women Are Like That syndrome from the Sisterhood.

As for me looking into the extremes, ask yourself this question: How many men would leave their wife if she quits her job tomorrow and chooses to stay at home (i.e bum)?