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Here's the short version: - the original version was created by the eunuch hundreds of years ago (before XAJH). - about 100+ years ago, it...

One of the overlooked strengths of THE BUND were the location shots for outdoor scenes. We frequently saw vintage buildings and vintage streets that...

Well End-LOCH GJ more or less equal with ZLC while post-Bixie YBQ even considered inferior to ZLC so GJ win without doubt..

This is a really good summary. My memory is also a little foggy on the history/lineage of BXJF and HHBD. Can we get a summary of who stole it form...

Great summary: I would add that it also has an amazing speed of cultivation, achieving in a few months what would take other arts years to do.

These are all we know about the Sun Flower manual: - the original and complete version died with the Fujian Shaolin monk. No one else has the...

Could be true, since the 2 parts couldn't be merged. I believe in the 1st edition, it was created by a husband and wife and the 2 arts couldn't...

I think Bixie Manual pure "technique" without internal part at all since if the manual have internal art it would be like ZZR evil 9 Yin though he...

It is not true that we say ERSA seems more stronger than DFBB's sunflower because we didn't see how he was fighting with sword but we saw how he was...

I see but if Sunflower was indeed have sword "part" why LYT create Bixie which seems more stronger than Sunflower sword art or he just developed...

I thought the manual was made up of sword & inner power sections and the 2 brothers each memorised a section and when they put it together, it didn't...

The principle of these two factions are come from sunflower manual I mean they have one single huashan but after reading sunflower separately...

Here are some of the elite martial arts techniques that disappeared by the time of the Ming Dynasty in Jin Yong's universe: 1. Siu Yiu Sect...

As far as we know, knowledge of the complete 9 Yeung Jen Ging died with Cheung Mo Gei.

So you mean Huashan qi and sword "indirectly" come from Sunflower Manual but why they are so weak in both internal and sword art after the fraction..

First when we talk about YBQ and LPZ skill we talk about third incomplete copy which name is ERSA with 72 stances and in DFBB case second incomplete...

I think you never read the novel when in Shaolin he and XF exchange palm for 3 times while DYQ which roughly equal with DZM running away from XF even...

I don't think Xuanci can hold his own against XF. That said, I doubt DZM can defeat Xuanci.

Great topic OP. It's weird they didn't skim the first few pages and realize this flaw. Alternatively, they might not have the balls to check the...

Nope Sunflower isn't sword manual but pure inner strength technique that's why though their prowess in swordplay increase tremendously YBQ and LPZ...

9 yang isn't related to sunflower manual 9 yang is a pure cultivation manual but sunflower is a sword technique manual that has a unique inner power...

Cheung Mo Gei did not return the full version of 9-Yeung to Shaolin after HSDS? 9-Yeung is so much better than Sunflower.

Most of the other great martial arts manuals from the past were lost by that time, or never were in Shaolin's possession.

I think they both died in the initial attack.

They probably searched for it by reputation first, then when the read what kind of power they could achieve got hooked. Its possible that they...

Abbot Xuanci could hold his own against XF while DZM skills only as good as DYQ at best and DYQ himself was afraid to fight XF 1 on 1 so logically...