I thought that West Poison Au Yeung Fung was able to achieve this through the practice of Reverse-9 Yum Jen Ging.Quote:
Originally Posted by RongYingMin
I thought that West Poison Au Yeung Fung was able to achieve this through the practice of Reverse-9 Yum Jen Ging.Quote:
Originally Posted by RongYingMin
Yang Guo demonstrated the same pattern with his roaring internal energy, and Yideng thought it was more impressive than the Southern Emperor was ever capable of. So it may not be immediately conclusive that Zhang Wuji has more endurance than Yang Guo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whsie
I must say, we never saw a mature Gwok Jing or Yeung Gor give way in battle due to energy depletion...not even when fighting opponents who were known to be their equals in power.
Yes, you're right. But I still think that in a battle, ZWJ would still have the advantage in endurance due to 1. Taichi by nature is far more conservative/balanced than YG's heavily yang power 2. YG doesn't have ZWJ's 太极拳中练气之法 which is an endurance propeller.Quote:
Originally Posted by PJ
What are the chances that Gwok Jing or Yeung Gor could exploit Cheung Mo Gei's relative inexperience as a fighter and lack of aggression in his personality to get a quick kill on him, thereby obviating the consideration of relative endurance?
As a side point, I think Yang Guo the Aggressor has a better chance of giving Zhang Wuji the Conservationist trouble than Guo Jing the Conservationist. Golden Wheel Monk had more trouble with Yang Guo than Guo Jing (he feared defeat by Yang Guo in 300 stances, whereas Jin Yong said he would last 1000 stances with Guo Jing). Zhang Wuji is a similar troubled fighter, so he would probably face more trouble with Yang Guo's more complicated stances.
Yeung Gor should utilize the Heavy Iron Sword for extra advantage. Cheung Mo Gei has proven vulnerable to weaponry before.Quote:
Originally Posted by PJ
One might say that to even things up, Cheung Mo Gei should get the Dragon Sabre, but how can he? The Dragon Sabre *was* the Heavy Iron Sword in its previous incarnation! :)
LOL, Ken, that was pretty true and funny. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
Yang Guo with his Heavy Iron Sword will give Zhang Wu Ji a hard time, and I am sure Yang Guo/Guo Jing will figure out pretty soon that Zhang Wu Ji is very inexperienced.
Don't forget that not only the Sacred Fire Tablet's skills are strange, Yang Guo's sad palm is pretty strange too. ;)
You've reminded me that Cheung Mo Gei does have a weapon he can use against the Heavy Iron Sword: the Ming Cult's Sacred Fire Tablet. Those tablets were so hard that even the Dragon Sabre couldn't cut through them. If the Dragon Sabre couldn't damage the tablets, then the Heavy Iron Sword won't either.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwekmh
Yeah but if you block the HIS with the tablets, I think your hand is gonna hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
Its not wise to block or have your weapon connect with the HIS.
Best to throw projectiles. Use the weight of the HIS against the wielder.
No, I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Senior Master Ken Cheng
I'll post a directly translated passage from the original edition, chapter 19.
Pardon my awful English and ability in comprehending Chinese, I tried my best to keep the meaning close to the origin.
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It turned out that at that time, the training of 9 Yang Shengong of Zhang Wuji was come off, the yin energy and the yang energy inside his body were unified, the fire and the water were merged. Being confined in the tightly stretched cloth bag, he felt as if there were dozens of masters massaging all his vital acupoints, and inside his body, the energy raised vehemently, dozens of magical entrances (xuan guan) were broken through. He felt extremely easeful as if there was a mercury current flowing all over his body.
Such fortune had never been seen before, the treasured bag was broken, so from then onwards, there probably wouldn't be anyone being so lucky to have the same thing done like that.
with Taichi sword arts, blocking HIS using sacred tablets was not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by CC
This matter of connecting Ren Du 2 pulses, Jin Yong described in detail in Linked Cities, chapter 16.
He wrote that, normally, people learning most elite qi gong techniques had to spend at least decades (maybe 30 - 40 years?) to do the same thing as Wuji did at the age of 21 - 22.
I disagree. 1 Du Generation as you said is 33.3% of ZWJ. Though that one Du Generation is superior to 2 Elties of Ming Cult, but the main one doing internal competition is Yin Tian Zheng and he was able to barely hold on. Of course there is also Yang Xiao on the outside throwing attacks everywhere. However, surely more than 3/4th of the internal is focused on YTZ. Overall, I'm still thinking 20% is a fair % to rate Fang Yiao(because half of a Du Generation would be 15%, but then Fang Yiao is clearly over 50%).Quote:
Originally Posted by kyss of the sword
Well I never think Wuji ever surpassing Z3F even in the end of HSDS..
He was renowned in wulin and nobody could defeat him in a fair, straight-up fight. The only detriment I can see is that he was 90 years old when the story began and over 100 when it ended, so old age might have sapped his stamina, but nobody had seen more of the wulin landscape than he had over his lifetime.
Based on their skillset Wuji ~ Z3F even slightly better IMHO but in terms of "battle prowess" and "combat experience" he lag behind Z3F..
Z3F killed Gangxiang (ZM subordinate) with one strike when Mongols ambushed Wudang and injured XM elders to take back Kid Wuji
It is a pity there is no other detail about ZSF peak. It is only story telling that he already become no 1 wulin and start his Wudang school at 60s