XiXing DaFa & Kuihua Baodian

[Liang kong]

KHBD was made by a enunuch fromthe Tang Dynasty correct?

[pokit]

The dynasty was never mentioned.



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Another thing about the KHBD owned by the SunMoon, it's actually the interpretation by the two martial brothers from Huashan who split the school into Qi and Sword factions. Then FZ made a remark at the end of the conversation that PXJF might be better that KHBD.

[Liang kong]

Must've been during the Song Dynasties if Yuan dynasty was not considered.

[Ken Cheng]

Somewhere, it has been said that the Qwai Fa Bo Deen originated with a eunuch that served in the court of the late Northern Sung Dynasty. Some have speculated that this eunuch might have been a contemporary of Wong Seung, the inventor of the 9 Yum Jen Ging.

[kyss of the sword]

before huang seng wrote 9yin, he wrote a compliation of taist knowledge which was left in the palace. perhaps after huang seng went into hiding, the enuch read and learned the martial arts ideas inside the taoist compliation and mixed other skills into it to create KHBD. becuase of his enuchness, he wasn't aware the skill could be practised by non enuches. because the jin invaded, the manual was lost for a long time and no one knew it's power. so it didn't turn up till the ming dynasty.
{hey, here's a fictionous tale of how KHBD was invented. the real inventor was chen youliang from HSDS. after the ming dynasty got founded, he fooled around with the royal concubines and got himself castrated. later he found the taoist compliation that huang seng wrote and mixed it up with his two shaolin and wudang 9yang bits and the other unotherdox skills from cheng kun. he was planning to take over the empire but died of VD before that happened. the person who found the manual later thought it was written much earlier because it was written in the margin of a sutra from that era.}

hah.

[Zhuge Liang]

Had RWX even looked at the contents of KHBD until he defeated DFBB? In one adaption i remember he looked at the manual after defeating DFBB and he laughed his head off indicating he had not looked at it before giving him the manual. Not sure if it was accurate.

[dracnom]

RWX knew the contents of KHBD, it was passed down the sun moon sect.

[frymantis]

I thought RWX was pre-occupied with the xxdf already and didn't even worried about khbd. the energy was killing him and he had to find the cause. or am i mixing timeline here.

[shortsight]

... becuase of his enuchness, he wasn't aware the skill could be practised by non enuches. ...

*** Potential Spoiler for those reading the Pokit's translation in Smiling Proud Wanderer*****



I don't think this is right. I thought Linghu Chong's master Yue Buqun did try to learn PXJF before cutting off his assets, but to no avail, and he finally decided to sever his balls in the end.

If KFBD can be learnt without dropping the assets, the talented DFBB and Yue Buqun should be smart enough to know that balls cutting is not a pre-requisite, but they couldn't find a way to learn it unless they willing to lose their manhood.

[pokit]

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Actually, YBQ never tried to learn PXJF without castrating himself first. This is what LPZ said about practising it.


"To practise this Evil Resisting Sword Art, you must start with the internal energy first. If you don't castrate yourself, once you practise it, you'll immediately feel like you're on fire, fire deviate, and die."

So it'd be very dangerous for him to try to practise it without castrating himself first.

[mark mkil]

I like to add that XXDF was the result of recreating the Bei Ming Shen Gong. Recall that Duan Yu had the complete manuscript but he accidently burnt the first half of the manuscript. Also, Ding Chunqiu only knew first half of the Bei Ming Shen Gong and only able to scatter the enemy's energy and fail to incorporate into his own. I believe I read it some where that the XXDF was result of interpreting Ding Chunqiu's first half of Bei Ming Shen Gong and Duan Yu's latter half of the manuscript. But like many JinYon's novel, putting first and half of the manuscript doesn't always give you the complete original. Consequently, the practitioner of XXDF will suffer from energy mix and this would be direct consequence of using the incomplete Bei Ming Shen Gong put together.

Hey, I just re-read some SPW chapters and found out a question from LWC to RWX. He asked, although the Kuihua Baodian was superior than XXDF (plus a long-life benefit) why RWX didn't learn it but instead he chose XXDF. RWX didn't answer it.

From what I understand, XXDF was not even a complete manuscript and RWX must think of many ways to 'perfecting' it. XXDF also required the practitioner to 'empty' his/her internal energy which I believe it must be a hard thing to do. Imagine RWX, a clan leader, must give up his entire strength for an incomplete manuscript. I figured RWX know the KHBD pre-requisite (cut your balls) but he doesn't seem to care much about that "three letters word". But would you think it's easier to do than XXDF ?

Later LWC told himself he understood why XXDF was hard to give away. But what does he mean ? I figured XXDF just like a very good narcotics which allow you to hang on a cloud (but it also turned bad for your health) or maybe a strong viagra to gave you instant boost or something. I'm not really get it.

Could someone enlighten me why RWX chose XXDF, and if you had the opportunity to learn XXDF or KHBD, which one you'll choose ?

[kyss of the sword]

there other evidence to show that XXDF was originated from BMSG. in DGSD, DY only practised the du and ren channels of BMSG and ignored the other channels. XXDF absorded inner power only throught those two same channels. RWX found a way to break through the seventy two accupoints along those channels so his abosrded energy could flow to and fro between the accupoints without reversing. In BMSG, once you mastered the other six channels, you can circulate the qi without fire deviation. DY did not learn those channels before the manual was destroyed, but when he learned 6MDS, he learned to circulate his qi through the other six channels anyway, through in the other direction.

[Trien Chieu]

if you had the opportunity to learn XXDF or KHBD, which one you'll choose ?

Both are pretty much garbage. I refuse to learn either one.
Dugu 9 Sword is much better. It's more powerful.

[Trien Chieu]

Where is 9 Yin, 9 Yang and all the cool martial arts of LOCH? KHBD/BixieSwordPlay is martial art for the losers.

[hyoyatika]

XXDF is not garbage. If I recall correctly, in theory, XXDF was even better than BMSG. The difference between the two was that XXDF allowed "sucking of internal energy" across air, ala "LDA style". BMSG required contact.

However, BMSG was able to merge all sucked energies and turn them into BMZQ, thus preventing any conflicting streams. This was XXDF's weakness, which plagued RWX throughout the novel.