View Poll Results: Who is the most despicable character in Ming Cult during HSDS?

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  • Yang Xiao

    3 23.08%
  • Fan Yao

    0 0%
  • Dai Qisi (Golden Flower Granny)

    1 7.69%
  • Yin Tianzheng

    0 0%
  • Xie Xun

    0 0%
  • Wei Yixiao

    0 0%
  • Yin Yewang

    0 0%
  • Yin Susu

    0 0%
  • Hu Qingniu

    1 7.69%
  • Zhu Yuanzhang

    8 61.54%
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Thread: Who is the most despicable character in Ming Cult during HSDS?

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    Post Who is the most despicable character in Ming Cult during HSDS?

    Who is the most despicable character in Ming Cult during HSDS?

    Most of them are cunning, despicable, ridiculous and irritating although they are loyal and faithful towards the Song Dynasty and Ming Cult and kept their promises.

    Yang Xiao raped Ji Xiaofu and caused her pregnant, Fan Yao getting into Zhao Min's imperial force and also killed his own Ming Cult men in order to succeed.

    Dai Qisi turning his back on Ming Cult and plotting to get QKDNY, Yin Tianzheng obtained Dragon Sabre at the expense of others' life, Xie Xun go around killing innocent people including the benevolent Kongjian, Wei Yixiao going around sucking people's blood.

    Yin Yewang ignoring to save fellow Ming Cult members when they were attacked by Miejue and E-Mei Sect during the Guangming Peak attack, Yin Susu killed the whole Longmen Escort Agency without blinking an eye and managed to trick the whole Wulin fraternity by faking revealing Xie Xun's location to Kongwen, Hu Qingniu refusing to cure other people that do not belong or have links to Ming Cult even when that person is dying.

    Zhu Yuanzhang tried to usurp ZWJ's position as Cult Leader and even threatened him and he also fully eradicated the Ming Cult during Ming Dynasty.
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    You didn't get the whole thing for Zhu Yuan Zhang. I personally voted Zhu Yuan Zhang. Just to give a little background info, Zhu Yuan Zhang is also known in history as Ming Taizu, the creator of the Ming Dynasty. He was a harshful ruler. He was decent in military area, but he really relied on Xu Da for military success (in the book, ZWJ gave Yu Fei's manual to Xu Da) . Later Zhu Yuan Zhang did become king, he killed almost all his generals. He also killed a lot fo the people that helped him get on the throne. IRC in a history book, it was said by the time Zhu Yuan Zhang died, only about 3 people lived who helped Zhu Yuan Zhang got the throne.

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    Those who have read Chinese history know about Chu Yeun Cheung and his unscrupulous deeds during his rise to power in China (and during his reign as the first Ming Emperor, Hongwu), but HSDS takes place before all that. In HSDS, we do see some of the cunning and ruthlessness that Chu Yeun Cheung would later exhibit in more drastic ways as emperor, but it's all very low key compared to his later deeds. During HSDS, in fact, one might even argue that some of Chu's questionable deeds were justifiable because he was rebelling against the Yuan government and some scruples needed to be overlooked for the sake of the rebellion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    Those who have read Chinese history know about Chu Yeun Cheung and his unscrupulous deeds during his rise to power in China (and during his reign as the first Ming Emperor, Hongwu), but HSDS takes place before all that. In HSDS, we do see some of the cunning and ruthlessness that Chu Yeun Cheung would later exhibit in more drastic ways as emperor, but it's all very low key compared to his later deeds. During HSDS, in fact, one might even argue that some of Chu's questionable deeds were justifiable because he was rebelling against the Yuan government and some scruples needed to be overlooked for the sake of the rebellion.
    Yep, what Zhu Yuan Zhang did in HSDS is NOTHING compared to what he would do as an emperor. He was too suspicious. Zhu Yuan Zhang (Hongwu or Mingtaizu) is often compared to Liu Bang (Han Gaozu) who also killed the people who got him the throne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whsie
    Yep, what Zhu Yuan Zhang did in HSDS is NOTHING compared to what he would do as an emperor.
    Indeed. Chu really set the tone for the remainder of Chinese imperial history (the next six-hundred or so years). The Ming and Qing Dynasty governments were much more autocratic than their Tang, Sung, and even Yuan counterparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whsie
    You didn't get the whole thing for Zhu Yuan Zhang.
    There's only one sentence for each character... ...

    I can still remember how he treat Han Lin'er and others.
    ..ext88

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