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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    HIS technique not special at all the novel itself confirm about it so Wuji would comfortable to handle it since his inner strength more better than YG thanks for his 9 Yang so except special weapon YG didn't advantage at all against Wuji..
    Even though Wuji has more internal than pre-16 YG, the power boost from the HIS would be more than enough to neutralize Wuji's internal advantage, since Wuji doesn't have a hard palm skill like Iron Palms or dragon palms.

    When it comes to the HIS techniques, Jinyong described the HIS and its techniques as the ingenuity of Dugu qiubai. "Simplicity brings superiority."

    Therefore, pre-16 YG would have the advantage of DGKB's HIS techniques and would likely defeat Wuji in a hypothetical duel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Especially if he use Persian Holy Table which strong enough that even Dragon Sabre couldn't break..
    You are comparing the Persian Holy Tablets and its techniques to the ingenuity of the HIS and its techniques?
    I think technique-wise, the HIS would easily defeat the Persian Holy Tablets, even the material of the tablets are comparable to the HIS in hardness/strength/unbreakable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenResident View Post
    GJ might have a small chance with his Left-Right technique. Half of GJ's inner power is still enough to deal with one LHC. As long as GJ doesn't get sucked into a technique battle, he can hold it out for a while.

    YG, on the other hand, is gonna get wrecked. That sleeve against one LHC? lol. YG will be sleeveless in less than 30 stances.

    However, this is why DFBB is better than GJ and YG. DFBB can beat 2 LHCs. Hell, he basically beat 2.8 LHCs without breaking a sweat.
    XLN also could her own against JLFW + 3 Mongolian Mercenaries + 5 Quanzhen Masters so that's mean she is better than GJ which only could handle JLFW + 4 Mongolian Mercenaries..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    You are comparing the Persian Holy Tablets and its techniques to the ingenuity of the HIS and its techniques?
    I think technique-wise, the HIS would easily defeat the Persian Holy Tablets, even the material of the tablets are comparable to the HIS in hardness/strength/unbreakable.
    I'm not comparing technique but about "hardness" which Wuji couldn't break it even with Dragon Sabre so if Wuji use Persian Holy Tablet then YG couldn't harm it at all at least the power of HIS would be reduce..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Even though Wuji has more internal than pre-16 YG, the power boost from the HIS would be more than enough to neutralize Wuji's internal advantage, since Wuji doesn't have a hard palm skill like Iron Palms or dragon palms.

    When it comes to the HIS techniques, Jinyong described the HIS and its techniques as the ingenuity of Dugu qiubai. "Simplicity brings superiority."

    Therefore, pre-16 YG would have the advantage of DGKB's HIS techniques and would likely defeat Wuji in a hypothetical duel.
    In terms of technique HIS very simple which not extraordinary at all so with Persian Holy Tablet Wuji could match HIS power since his internal strength greater than YG so combine with Persian Holy Tablet I think HIS would be "useless" against Wuji in terms of technique and power except YG use HIS to perform Jade Maiden Sword but if he use it then he would lose the "power" of HIS "simplicity bring superiority"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    DFBB vs

    RWX: level ~65 to 68
    LHC: level ~60
    XWT: level ~55

    Not too impressive, only speed advantage against way below Great-level opponents.

    Post-16 YG equipped with the HIS would most likely one hit KO LHC and XWT if they dare clash on directly with their weapons, a few stances at most.

    Against RWX, no need for the HIS, YG just unleash full-powered Sad Palms and the fight would quickly be over.
    DFBB was indeed strong since he could hold his own against 3 LOCH QQR level fighters at once..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Bring in the HIS and post-16 YG would blow LHC out of the water.

    Against 2 LHCs around level ~60, YG with the HIS, its enormous power and ingenious techniques, "Simplicity brings superiority",
    would likely break LHC's sword on first direct contact and would finish each of them within a few stances.
    I think you too much underestimate LHC and SPW fighters yes he is not YG level if fight individual but 2 LHC would be more than enough to fight draw with YG..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    XLN also could her own against JLFW + 3 Mongolian Mercenaries + 5 Quanzhen Masters so that's mean she is better than GJ which only could handle JLFW + 4 Mongolian Mercenaries..
    The circumstances surrounding both of these fights were fairly extraordinary, so it's difficult to draw any definitive conclusions from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    The circumstances surrounding both of these fights were fairly extraordinary, so it's difficult to draw any definitive conclusions from them.
    I mean if DFBB considered strong due the fact he could fight RWX + LHC + XWT at once then we also should not looking down XLN which could hold her own against JLFW + 3 Mongolian Mercenaries + 5 Quanzhen Masters which even GJ or ZBT couldn't deal with them but that not mean XLN better than GJ or ZBT right same like DFBB he is not clearly above GJ or YG only because he could fought 3 LOCH QQR simultaneously..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I think you too much underestimate LHC and SPW fighters yes he is not YG level if fight individual but 2 LHC would be more than enough to fight draw with YG..
    Two low internal LHCs would get destroyed by post-16 YG equipped with the HIS.
    Remember LHC weakness is against high-internal opponents.

    Once LHC's sword make direct contact with the profound internal-infused HIS, the sword would immediately shatter/break, causing injury to LHC due to the enormous power.
    Once LHC's sword is broken, he would be defeated instantly by YG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I mean if DFBB considered strong due the fact he could fight RWX + LHC + XWT at once then we also should not looking down XLN which could hold her own against JLFW + 3 Mongolian Mercenaries + 5 Quanzhen Masters which even GJ or ZBT couldn't deal with them but that not mean XLN better than GJ or ZBT right same like DFBB he is not clearly above GJ or YG only because he could fought 3 LOCH QQR simultaneously..
    Yeah, but nobody would believe that Gwok Jing really had any hope of beating those three opponents, let alone all of them at the same time. If the fight goes on a minute or so more, he'd be screwed.

    Similarly, Little Dragon Girl would have gone down quickly if Golden Wheel Monk launched a power attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    In terms of technique HIS very simple which not extraordinary at all so with Persian Holy Tablet Wuji could match HIS power since his internal strength greater than YG so combine with Persian Holy Tablet I think HIS would be "useless" against Wuji in terms of technique and power except YG use HIS to perform Jade Maiden Sword but if he use it then he would lose the "power" of HIS "simplicity bring superiority"..
    So you mean the Persian Holy Tablets and its techniques are superior to DGKB's HIS and its techniques, like when he was in his 30s, undefeatable.

    I pretty sure if Jinyong were still alive, he would definitely say Dugu's HIS and its techniques are superior, no doubt about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Yeah, but nobody would believe that Gwok Jing really had any hope of beating those three opponents, let alone all of them at the same time. If the fight goes on a minute or so more, he'd be screwed.

    Similarly, Little Dragon Girl would have gone down quickly if Golden Wheel Monk launched a power attack.
    I agree with Ken.
    For instance, if we replace JLFW with QQR, the beautiful, lovely Xiaolongnu would be no more.
    Sheer power overcomes speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Two low internal LHCs would get destroyed by post-16 YG equipped with the HIS.
    Remember LHC weakness is against high-internal opponents.

    Once LHC's sword make direct contact with the profound internal-infused HIS, the sword would immediately shatter/break, causing injury to LHC due to the enormous power.
    Once LHC's sword is broken, he would be defeated instantly by YG.
    When YG destroy one LHC he also get stabbed by the other LHC from behind in the same time and all of them would be die..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I mean if DFBB considered strong due the fact he could fight RWX + LHC + XWT at once then we also should not looking down XLN which could hold her own against JLFW + 3 Mongolian Mercenaries + 5 Quanzhen Masters which even GJ or ZBT couldn't deal with them but that not mean XLN better than GJ or ZBT right same like DFBB he is not clearly above GJ or YG only because he could fought 3 LOCH QQR simultaneously..
    Your post meaning that based on XLN and DFBB's feats, they should not automatically be ranked that high.
    If XLN's level is ~68 to 70, so DFBB's level should be ~72 to 75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    When YG destroy one LHC he also get stabbed by the other LHC from behind in the same time and all of them would be die..
    Possible, but unlikely because post-16 YG trained with the ocean waves coming from all directions, so he would most likely aware of the situation and perform a spin move with the HIS to make sure he hit both LHCs' swords or bodies and at the same time protect himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    So you mean the Persian Holy Tablets and its techniques are superior to DGKB's HIS and its techniques, like when he was in his 30s, undefeatable.

    I pretty sure if Jinyong were still alive, he would definitely say Dugu's HIS and its techniques are superior, no doubt about that.
    You still didn't get my point so I would give you a simple logic : if the clumsy-oldie and unarmed QQR could fought YG for almost 300 moves then how could "prime" Wuji which have better internal and external skills than QQR even armed with Persian Holy Tablet would lose to YG..

    And for DGQB we are agree before that HIS DGQB more or less equal with end-ROCH YG so of course he would easily beat Wuji but pre 16 years HIS YG which much weaker than HIS DGQB logically couldn't beat Wuji

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Possible, but unlikely because post-16 YG trained with the ocean waves coming from all directions, so he would most likely aware of the situation and perform a spin move with the HIS to make sure he hit both LHCs' swords or bodies and at the same time protect himself.
    But you forget YG only have one arm which would give him huge disadvantage against multiple powerful opponents especially as good as LHC..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Your post meaning that based on XLN and DFBB's feats, they should not automatically be ranked that high.
    If XLN's level is ~68 to 70, so DFBB's level should be ~72 to 75.
    XLN only could hold own for a while then DFBB instantly win against RWX + LHC + XWT so how could he rank so low since no one people at Lv 75 could beat combine force of 3 LOCH QQR level fighters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Possible, but unlikely because post-16 YG trained with the ocean waves coming from all directions, so he would most likely aware of the situation and perform a spin move with the HIS to make sure he hit both LHCs' swords or bodies and at the same time protect himself.
    YG himself admit that if JLFW and his co attack him in union he would die or at least seriously injured since he only have one arm..

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