That's the thing: Sad Palms has to be "activated", a major handicap.
That's the thing: Sad Palms has to be "activated", a major handicap.
FQY:
We did not see him fight, so we could assume he has reached a very high level of DG9J, not necessarily fully mastering the arts.
Therefore we could put FQY at level 75, next to the ROCH Greats.
DFBB:
If we adjust his/her opponents' level, we could logically revise his/her level.
RWX: ~65
LHC: ~60 to 62
XWT: ~55
Now we could logically adjust DFBB's level to ~75, equalizing him/her with FQY and the ROCH Greats.
-DFBB's level adjustment accounts for his/her speed and overall powess against the three opponents.
It is conceivable and logical that pre-16 YG with the HIS could defeat any Great within 300 stances since he decisively defeated a blood-thirsty ~Great QQR in a little more than 100 stances.
Therefore, pre-16 YG with the HIS should be 3 to 5 levels above the Greats, putting him at level ~78 to 80.
I have another idea
we can replace YG instead of SM and DQ
then we add 10 - 20 for ROCH characters specially Yang family because they are in ROCH
then we reduce DGSD characters 30 - 40 level because they are not in ROCH
then we reduce 60 - 70 level from SPT because why should he placed above YG
then we reduce SPW characters 30 - 50 level because they are not in ROCH and all of them are trash and they are good for nothing and they must be below ROCH characters and specially Yang family
in the result
we have a level 50 SM and DQ level 45 xu zhu and SPT level 42 DY level 38 XF XYS MRB level 35 JMZ level 20 dfbb - level 15 FQY - level 5 RWX and level 1 LHC
why?because YOU don't see RWX defeating XLN with ambidextrous technique.
sounds good and logic.
You are a ROCH fan it is very good
You are a Yang family fan it is very good
You are a YG fan it is very good
But please Do not mess around other characters and other novels without any proof
You have a good opinion and this is very good but it would be much better if you can prove it
If you Convinced me on the other topic I don't say any thing here but you did not convince me and you are repeating the same things even here for example about RWX and FQY.Didn't I explaine it?What about YG's HIS ?
tell me what do you think bout this
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Base on these details we can reduce YG's level by 2-4 level and give him level 77.
how do you feel?
Do you like it?
Again
please Do not mess around other characters and other novels without any proof because you are a ROCH fan or YG fan or even Condor Heroes trilogy fan
Last edited by reydge; 08-28-21 at 04:18 PM.
@reydge:
Sorry for the disappoinent, but my main goal is to put YG on the level that he deserve with supporting analysis based on the novel, science, and discussions.
However, I do not make the final decision regarding the official rankings: that is @WuxiaMaster's decision if he chooses to.
Based on the novel, we know that "happy" YG who is at his base power level of ~80 is already vastly superior to JLGS at level 77 (would defeat him within 300 stances, no matter what).
Once true Sad Palms is activated, YG immediately blow JLFW out of the water and ended the fight.
This shows that YG with peak Sad Palms is not only 1 level above base YG.
As for characters from SPW, I truely think they are over-ranked.
I tried and provide my analysis why I think the SPW's level should be adjusted, but it is up to @WuxiaMaster to make the final decision.
I true apologize if I offended you and posters here because that is not my main purpose.
Respectfully,
FeilongZ
Yeeeep base-YG only marginally better than ZBT and HYS also if we put YG with 💯% Sad Palm or HIS at Lv 85 we should raising too XF MRB and JMZ level as well as DY and Xiaoyao Elders which seems illogical for me..
As for RWX and Fangzheng I agree that they're more or less equal with Greats at least LOCH Greats giving their feat throughout the novel which seems quite remarkable
I think you must read the book properly during his fight against QQR JY said that it was due QQR old age which make him couldn't keep up with HIS it's doesn't mean QQR overall skills inferior to YG even he outclassed YG in lightness skill also YG defeat him after 200 stances with some of "trick" so please stop over-hype YG at that time..
The YG fans for the past few pages have ruined this thread.
We know that during the 16-year interlude, QQR lasted a whole day against JLGS.
So why was old age the main issue against pre-16 YG with the HIS?
Jinyong stated it was a combination of the HIS and the ingenuity of Dugu qiubai techniques that decisively overwhelmed and defeated QQR in a relatively quick time.
For the record, it was a little over 100 stances, more like ~110 stances that YG won, not around 200 stances like you kept saying.
Well I think I would repeat it again you should read the book properly regarding QQR vs JLFW since JY said the first time he use his 10th Dragon/Elephant Prajna against powerful opponents is when he met ZBT so during his fight against QQR he didn't use his level 10 even he didn't use his wheels since YG say QQR injured by heavy palm strike so it's not strange at all if he need almost full day to beat QQR..
But we also shouldn't ignore people thought regarding SPW Trilogy and DGSD characters..
You need to reflect upon the important life lesson in DGSD.
Those who want something too badly and try to force the issue tend to not get what they want. In fact, it frequently backfires on them spectacularly, with catastrophic results.
On the other hand, those who do not force the issue and let nature take its course often find the fates smiling upon them, gifting them with benefits that they did not expect or demand.
I've long hated Yeung Gor, but I found that my past propaganda campaigns against him probably tended to make more people sympathetic towards him.
You're doing the same thing in reverse: your excessive hype of the character is causing people to turn against the character in a way I could only dream of.
Think about it.
Last edited by Ken Cheng; 08-28-21 at 11:33 PM.
@WuxiaMaster requested discussions on revising some characters' levels from his official rankings, so this is the perfect thread to do that.
We may have got overly excited and carried away with discussing character A vs character B from other threads, and this is an apology from my part.