My once a year visit to SPCNet and new messages, time to beat the dead horse.
I think this is not quite fair as GWM Post 16 did not really have many 'underperform'-esque feats, he seemed to handle himself quite well with literally everyone. Even the final fight against YG, was anything that happened really underperformance? (No commentary on the leveling itself, more the rationale against his leveling)
This is quite strange since there are many characters that don't even appear that are rated based on speculation in the list. At the very least, with Post 16 HIS, we can use some novel-points to make some speculative level (even if rating with some buffer like 83-90). It seems reasonable to me for him to have a speculative level considering more discussion about that level happens than probably all the combined speculative characters on the list.
Some novel points:
- Pre 16 strength and ease at which he won with it
- YG's confidence in not bringing it (e.g. he thought he got to a point where he can still beat GWM without HIS)
- YG's -then- regret for not bringing it (aka 'HIS' is still stronger than his strongest point with sad palms)
- YG's sad palms performance of <5 stances
- YG's happy palms performance of 200-300 stances to beat GWM
At a baseline, one can speculate the bare minimum Post 16 YG HIS level is marginally better than his Sad Palms and if one were to make an (in my opinion) educated guess, his HIS should be substantially better than Sad Palms (e.g. 4-5 levels higher). This matches the HIS pedigree too, considering it's an art that should be seen as >Great level.
This debate is overdone so won't really mention it but DFBB's performance ONE on ONE against LHC wasn't some ultra dominance like this forum likes to say. They exchanged blows several times (sorry if this is an exaggeration, it's been so many years). If DFBB was really so godlike, he would've one-stance'd owned LHC instead.
I don't know how much better FZ would've fared against DFBB.
Also, this is just my opinion but RWX's energy sucking ability does not seem as potent as DY. I don't know why but it seemed pretty crappy honestly, almost as bad as XLN's ice bed that will somehow level up your internal. This may be heresy but maybe his energy sucking ability is actually overhyped.
That said, I do believe LHC's Post-Novel potential is nigh limitless.
To be fair, I've read the past few pages and it seems a lot of vitriol is directed at one person only. I am not sure if there were warnings given but I've cherrypicked some messages I found to be unnecessary and/or passive aggressive.
"The YG fans for the past few pages have ruined this thread."
"Seriously, can someone please make this stop? They have this amazing ability to turn ANY thread into stupid YG hype thread. It's incredible really."
"Ever thought of discussing, rather than debating?"
As for the meta of why YG seems to be discussed so often, IMO, he seems one of the only characters on the list that is still misleveled.