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    What's up, Whsie and PJ? Why're you guys arguing about this? Why does it matter whether it piles up or not? I'm too lazy to read all the stuff before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu Wudi View Post
    What's up, Whsie and PJ? Why're you guys arguing about this? Why does it matter whether it piles up or not? I'm too lazy to read all the stuff before.
    Yoh, I remember you were the one who loved to diss Broken Wheel Monk.

    The argument from PJ is that the ROCH Greats need to "pile up" several attacks in order to injure each other. He is questioning whether or not the Greats can harm each other with 1 Long distance attack. The argument I'm making is that "piling up" is impossible as Yideng would find himself blown away by JLFW's superior palm energy if he 1. tries to pile up 2. uses a continuous stream of energy 3. constantly exchange head on. In each of those scenario, Yideng's energy would get dissolved and Yideng would be in trouble; therefore, the only logical explanation left is for Yideng to dodge around and fire LDA. As for why the LDA can harm each other and the specifics, you have to read the earlier posts. I seriously took way too much time to type those out.

    Anyway, I'm out for today.
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    Oi PJ! After 17 pages of heated debate, you removed the chart?!?
    Its BIxie Jianfa Gawdammit you guys!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Oi PJ! After 17 pages of heated debate, you removed the chart?!?
    Yes, it was simply too controversial for its own good. The removal of the actual ranking was in everyone's interest.

    Next I would like to compile an ELOC ranking, featuring only the purest ingredients... I mean ELOCs.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    but then there would be debate on who IS and who ISN'T an ELOC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Ying Ying View Post
    but then there would be debate on who IS and who ISN'T an ELOC
    Yes, but I expect such a "niche" discussion to be conducted in a much more friendly and less flame-inducing way.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Yes, it was simply too controversial for its own good. The removal of the actual ranking was in everyone's interest.

    Next I would like to compile an ELOC ranking, featuring only the purest ingredients... I mean ELOCs.
    So ... strongest ELOC?

    Murong Longcheng?
    明月心跳起來,又回頭,嫣然道,你還要不要我帶上那面具?
    傅紅雪冷道,現在你臉上豈非已經戴上了個面具?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bliss View Post
    So ... strongest ELOC?

    Murong Longcheng?
    He got my vote in the Survival thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bliss View Post
    So ... strongest ELOC?

    Murong Longcheng?
    He might be the strongest named ELOC. However there are a few unnamed ELOCs who could potentially give him a run:

    -Inventor of 6MSJ

    -Creator of Ode to Gallantry art

    -Teacher of the 3 Xiaoyao Pai sages
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    What's the cutoff for ELOC-dom?

    Would Huang Shang be an ELOC? DGQB? Lin Yuantu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    He might be the strongest named ELOC. However there are a few unnamed ELOCs who could potentially give him a run:

    -Inventor of 6MSJ

    -Creator of Ode to Gallantry art

    -Teacher of the 3 Xiaoyao Pai sages
    These people might never have gotten proper names in their stories, but I don't think any of them would qualify for ELOC status because they're too darn prominent. ELOCs are characters that people pay little or no attention to because of their seeming unimportance. Each of the above, however, was very important even if they didn't really ever appear in their stories.

    ELOCs are more "out of sight, out of mind" type characters.

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    I forgot what ELOC stood for again.

    What maybe ELOC for you, may not be ELOC for many other wuxia posters.

    I prefer ELOCs to be characters that actually made a physical appearance in the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    These people might never have gotten proper names in their stories, but I don't think any of them would qualify for ELOC status because they're too darn prominent. ELOCs are characters that people pay little or no attention to because of their seeming unimportance. Each of the above, however, was very important even if they didn't really ever appear in their stories.

    ELOCs are more "out of sight, out of mind" type characters.
    No one really paid much attention to the supposedly master of the Xiaoyao Pai elders. I don't even recall the "inventor" of the 6MSJ mentioned that often in TLBB at all. I would say that the inventor of the Ode to Gallantry art is only important insofar as his art is being studied by so many people. In any case, he could have just as easily been two people and it wouldn't affect the plot or design at all.

    They hold minimal importance to everyone who doesn't try to debate how strong they actually were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    He might be the strongest named ELOC. However there are a few unnamed ELOCs who could potentially give him a run:

    -Inventor of 6MSJ

    -Creator of Ode to Gallantry art

    -Teacher of the 3 Xiaoyao Pai sages
    If you want to use those guys, then we also have to include :

    Sunflower Scroll Creator

    Confucian/Taoist/Buddhist 9 Yang Man

    Creator of the Daizhong way

    Damo not included as he is too famous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulmelody View Post
    true, MRF is nowhere near XF but ur saying that 4 MRF cant par with XF?thats utter BS.And i thought everyone at this forum thought DUGU Qiu Bai > Sweeps.
    Duan Yanqing > MRF and XF = 4 Duan Yanqing so XF can handle at least 6 MRF..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Duan Yanqing > MRF and XF = 4 Duan Yanqing so XF can handle at least 6 MRF..
    You realise this thread is 9 years old don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    You realise this thread is 9 years old don't you?
    Perhaps you right but since JMZ can take on 6 monk of Tianlong Monastery and JMZ ~/= Xiao Feng there's no doubt Xiao Feng also can handle 6 MRF which more or equal with Tianlong monk..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Perhaps you right but since JMZ can take on 6 monk of Tianlong Monastery and JMZ ~/= Xiao Feng there's no doubt Xiao Feng also can handle 6 MRF which more or equal with Tianlong monk..
    XF can either kill 10 MRFs or spend 10 hours fighting 1 MRF depending on what JY needed for his plot. I think there is all there is to it.
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    Well if Wuji = 3 Du Monk and 3 Du Monk = 6 Yang Xiao I think it's not strange if Xiao Feng can take on 6 Murong Fu since he's better fighter than Wuji and Murong Fu level not a lot better than Yang Xiao IMHO..

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